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Nephthys posted:I think the best thing would be if we just never see her again. Its the best punishment for her trying to steal all the spotlight for herself. Aranea progressed the plot faster than any single character in Homestuck. She is the hero we deserve, though not the one Shippers want.
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I would point out that I think snuggling up to Dave is the first time we've ever seen Karkat smile. He gay. They gay.
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Apr 23, 2015 14:18
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Luminous Obscurity posted:Now I want an update of Jade sitting on the ship alone for three years. In real-time.
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WAR FOOT posted:Aranea progressed the plot faster than any single character in Homestuck. She is the hero we deserve, though not the one Shippers want. Speaking of Aranea, I'm seeing a lot of people saying that most of Gamzee's meteor actions were because of her. I thought that she only started influencing him when he stole the ring for her. The horrible black romance with Terezi, breaking off the moraillegence with Karkat, his dream bubble shenanigans... that was all him right, I'm not forgetting something am I?
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Everyone seems to be assuming that Vriska stopped Rose from drinking purely for ~*friendship*~ reasons, which sorta fits with the tone of the flash as a whole but to me seems jarringly out of character even so. It seems a little more likely to me that she did it to make Rose look bad in front of Kanaya on their first date, considering how she also muscled in on their reading time.
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I think that she just likes being the big hero who solves problems so people like her, and that was a problem that needed solving.
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Apr 23, 2015 15:38
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Now that Vriska has Aradia's timetables (was it Aradia's? I forget), we've got three living characters with reset powers: Dave (who claims to have sworn them off), John (who is the loosest cannon that ever ran over somebody's foot and crushed it), and Vriska. I see no way in which this could possibly go wrong.
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Vriska and John get into a slapfight over relationships that escalates into them completely obliterating canon by way of Time Bullshit
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WAR FOOT posted:Aranea progressed the plot faster than any single character in Homestuck. She is the hero we deserve, though not the one Shippers want. Now that Vriska has never died, how's that going to affect the whole "treasure hunt" Aranea and dead-Vriska went on to find the Sburb logo thing?
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mr. stefan posted:Vriska and John get into a slapfight over relationships that escalates into them completely obliterating canon by way of Time Bullshit 
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Rose Spirit posted:Everyone seems to be assuming that Vriska stopped Rose from drinking purely for ~*friendship*~ reasons, which sorta fits with the tone of the flash as a whole but to me seems jarringly out of character even so. It seems a little more likely to me that she did it to make Rose look bad in front of Kanaya on their first date, considering how she also muscled in on their reading time. You really don't get how light players work, do you? If there is a problem, the light player will take the most efficient, obtrusive, direct route to fixing that problem. The fact that Kanaya showed up on scene at the right moment is not that important to the fact that Vriska is literally slapping Rose's source of addiction out of her hand. See Rose with the green sun and Aranea with fixing the timeline. Also, Vriska still thinks she's pale with Kanaya. It's a major character point in Kanaya's development that she literally put herself in the pale corner with Vriska. Vriska's not at all competing with Rose for Kanaya's affections in terms of troll romance. It isn't like we haven't had light players rubbing their asses in our faces for the entirety of the comic trying to get our attention, you'd think everyone by now would have gotten a whiff and figured this stuff out.
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Ramos posted:Also, Vriska still thinks she's pale with Kanaya. It's a major character point in Kanaya's development that she literally put herself in the pale corner with Vriska. Vriska's not at all competing with Rose for Kanaya's affections in terms of troll romance. On the other hand, maybe she's reconsidering now that she has less friends walking around.
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Bell_ posted:I figure Kanaya was done with Vriska after the dress incident. Important to remember Kanaya might be done with Vriska but at no point did she ever tell her this, just passive aggressively avoided her.
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PleasingFungus posted:My favorite thing about this flash is that it finally, finally feels like we're starting to wind things up and move towards some kind of ending. Homestuck: The Final Years
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I just can't get over how drat adorable Karkat and Dave are. Though I'm still hoping they're just BFFs now...I know, I know, gay singularity and all, but I always find close friendships in a story far more heartwarming than ships. I guess because they're rarer.
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Plus it's gonna be chaos when Jade steps back into the picttthhrrrrgggggnoooo what am I doooiiing WHAT HAVE YOU MADE ME DOOOOO
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Zoe posted:I just can't get over how drat adorable Karkat and Dave are. Though I'm still hoping they're just BFFs now...I know, I know, gay singularity and all, but I always find close friendships in a story far more heartwarming than ships. I guess because they're rarer. Karkat's unrelenting white-hot sincerity has always been the only thing able to get through all of Dave's ironic self-defense mechanisms. Dave's cucumber coolness tamps down Karkat's constant flood of Emotion. Now that Karkat's not eaten up with guilt over loving up his thing with Gamzee, their relationship started off less antagonistic, and nature took its course.
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Blackheart posted:Plus it's gonna be chaos when Jade steps back into the picttthhrrrrgggggnoooo what am I doooiiing WHAT HAVE YOU MADE ME DOOOOO THE SHIPS ARE COMING FROM INSIDE THE THREAD!
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Oxxidation posted:Karkat's unrelenting white-hot sincerity has always been the only thing able to get through all of Dave's ironic self-defense mechanisms. Dave's cucumber coolness tamps down Karkat's constant flood of Emotion. Now that Karkat's not eaten up with guilt over loving up his thing with Gamzee, their relationship started off less antagonistic, and nature took its course. When you average the two of them out you get a couple that can emote like an emotionally-mature adult!
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Zoe posted:I just can't get over how drat adorable Karkat and Dave are. Though I'm still hoping they're just BFFs now...I know, I know, gay singularity and all, but I always find close friendships in a story far more heartwarming than ships. I guess because they're rarer. Close Friendship Dave and Karkat are ghosts in the dream bubbles. Definitely Gay Dave and Karkat are currently the leading Dave and Karkat. At this point I don't think Hussie could walk that back and live, I took a glance at tumblr and you'd think all that happened in that flash was Karkat smiling and resting a hand on Dave. As for Vriska fixing Rose's drinking problem, I figure Vriska still thinks she's friends with Kanaya even if Kanaya's a bit over her, so if Rose's drinking was making Kanaya upset but nobody could really bring themselves to be direct about it (like in the last timeline) Vriska's the sort of crass personality to kick off an impromptu intervention. Besides, a lot of the other pressures and uncertainties that really drove Rose's drinking in the previous timeline have been relieved, the whole group environment is miles better.
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This is all well and good but can a happy Karkat be said to be a real Karkat at all? Also now that we've got Gay Dave I wonder if we'll get Straight Dirk in exchange?
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Ramos posted:Also, Vriska still thinks she's pale with Kanaya. It's a major character point in Kanaya's development that she literally put herself in the pale corner with Vriska. Vriska's not at all competing with Rose for Kanaya's affections in terms of troll romance. She did start crushing on her at one point. Whether Vriska is trying to fix problems, or just jealous and obnoxious, or both of those things, is totally up in the air.
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Oxxidation posted:Karkat's unrelenting white-hot sincerity has always been the only thing able to get through all of Dave's ironic self-defense mechanisms. Dave's cucumber coolness tamps down Karkat's constant flood of Emotion. Now that Karkat's not eaten up with guilt over loving up his thing with Gamzee, their relationship started off less antagonistic, and nature took its course. I'm going with this as well because this really feels like diamonds to me more than hearts, and nonsexual physical closeness is certainly a thing Nepeta and Equius did so it's not that unreasonable.
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Tenebrais posted:She did start crushing on her at one point. Whether Vriska is trying to fix problems, or just jealous and obnoxious, or both of those things, is totally up in the air. Augh, gently caress, completely forgot about that. Well, I still sincerely think Vriska's out to help Rose.
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Ramos posted:You really don't get how light players work, do you? If there is a problem, the light player will take the most efficient, obtrusive, direct route to fixing that problem. The fact that Kanaya showed up on scene at the right moment is not that important to the fact that Vriska is literally slapping Rose's source of addiction out of her hand. See Rose with the green sun and Aranea with fixing the timeline. You really don't get how emotionally manipulative people work, do you? Obviously, in order to take that course of action in the first place, Vriska knew that there was a problem with Rose drinking and that doing that particular thing might help Rose solve it. That in no way prevents that action from having the consequence of making Rose look foolish in Kanaya's eyes as well for doing the problematic thing. Vriska would even get to be the center of attention because she called her out. quote:Also, Vriska still thinks she's pale with Kanaya. It's a major character point in Kanaya's development that she literally put herself in the pale corner with Vriska. Vriska's not at all competing with Rose for Kanaya's affections in terms of troll romance. Bell_ posted:I figure Kanaya was done with Vriska after the dress incident. For Vriska not trying to compete in terms of affection, it sure does seem strange that the only time we see either Rose or Kanaya in conjunction with Vriska in this flash after the initial meetup is when she's interrupting their time together. Vriska never seemed all that happy with Kanaya as a moirail anyway as far as I could tell. Ugh so many emotions about fictional teens. ETA: Tenebrais probably made my point a lot better than I did.
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PleasingFungus posted:My favorite thing about this flash is that it finally, finally feels like we're starting to wind things up and move towards some kind of ending. Yes, a slightly different version of what we spent an entire year reading is finally leading into the ending.
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CidGregor posted:I'm going with this as well because this really feels like diamonds to me more than hearts Oh my crispy gently caress I didn't mean it like that, I'd actually managed to forget about the quadrants, why would you take this away from me
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Zoe posted:Also now that we've got Gay Dave I wonder if we'll get Straight Dirk in exchange? Thanks gay dave Thayve
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Tenebrais posted:She did start crushing on her at one point. Whether Vriska is trying to fix problems, or just jealous and obnoxious, or both of those things, is totally up in the air. Pretty sure it's both. Yeah she's fixing things, but she's doing it the only way she knows how: by just doing whatever she wants and not taking into account anyone else's feelings. I mean, come on, she sees two people cuddling up and reading a book together and she immediately joins them with a "hey, whatcha readin?" look.
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Zoe posted:This is all well and good but can a happy Karkat be said to be a real Karkat at all? Of course not, it's the same Dirk just with some events retconned. His superhuman gayness didn't stop being a thing. Dolash posted:Close Friendship Dave and Karkat are ghosts in the dream bubbles. I don't think this is the case. Lame Vriska is an exception, having been a ghost in the dream bubbles I think. The retcon was different than time travel so their history was either literally rewritten or the "wrong" versions just vanished, no doomed timelines involved. John of course wasn't even sure about what would happen with those left behind after doing Terezi's list. The changes were made as subtly as possible (as subtle as John can be) so a lot of stuff still happened the same way but with less negative outcomes.
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Blackheart posted:Of course not, it's the same Dirk just with some events retconned. His superhuman gayness didn't stop being a thing. But almost everyone died before the retcon itself, so they would have ended up in the dreambubbles before the retcon happened, just like old-Vriska. ThaumPenguin fucked around with this message at 20:04 on Apr 23, 2015 |
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ThaumPenguin posted:But almost everyone died before the retcon itself, so they would have ended up in the dreambubbles before the retcon happened, just old-Vriska. WELL YES BUT 
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Oxxidation posted:Karkat's unrelenting white-hot sincerity has always been the only thing able to get through all of Dave's ironic self-defense mechanisms. Dave's cucumber coolness tamps down Karkat's constant flood of Emotion. Now that Karkat's not eaten up with guilt over loving up his thing with Gamzee, their relationship started off less antagonistic, and nature took its course. Did anybody catch who had the wallet in the Flash? My eyes just aren't fast enough, and the artist who did that panel (if it wasn't Hussie) didn't post it. Meanwhile, I'm sitting at home trying to think of the worst thing Hussie can do to my emotions so I'll be prepared. Hah.
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I finally realized what it is that rings false about the shot of Dave and Karkat to me. Neither of them are guarded or belligerent. They're just... getting along, without sparring or posturing or being tragic or giving a hyperbolic amount of gently caress (whether super-ironically or super-sincerely) about something trivial. I suppose that's indicative of growth, but there's so little precedent for either of them to act that way that it's really difficult to say that anything predicated on both of them behaving thus at once, toward each other, feels natural. One speaks of chemistry, but these are such rare isotopes of these characters that we hardly have an idea of why anything is happening.
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Burkion posted:http://www.paradoxspace.com/summerteen-romance/20 Bongo Bill posted:I finally realized what it is that rings false about the shot of Dave and Karkat to me. Neither of them are guarded or belligerent. They're just... getting along, without sparring or posturing or being tragic or giving a hyperbolic amount of gently caress (whether super-ironically or super-sincerely) about something trivial Ikimaru and J.N. Wiedle have posted some of their frames. Ikimaru said she had (unspecified) troubles drawing the penis-hopscotch and a friend did it on a file she doesn't have. Arsenic Lupin fucked around with this message at 19:38 on Apr 23, 2015 |
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Arsenic Lupin posted:Don't forget the triangle over Terezi. The fight that started with Dave making Karkat draw penises on a shipping chart and ended with Dave suplexing Karkat was over sharing Terezi's time. After Terezi took "you don't need him" to heart, Karkat and Dave can just hang. Or whatever. Anthony Carver is Lord English all along
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