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gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
The MilHist thread brought up this article and I wanted to share: Why Cold War Warsaw Pact Tactics Work in Wargaming

and the follow-up

I always felt that the Red Turn scenarios from UOC were so much easier and straightforward and less puzzle-gamey to play through, and even in WITE that applying constant pressure to wear down the Heer until you start getting rout results was a more manageable strategy than trying to create and seal pockets with Panzer Divisions.

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maev
Dec 6, 2010
Economically illiterate Tory Boy Bollocks brain.
Keep away from children

gradenko_2000 posted:

The MilHist thread brought up this article and I wanted to share: Why Cold War Warsaw Pact Tactics Work in Wargaming

and the follow-up

I always felt that the Red Turn scenarios from UOC were so much easier and straightforward and less puzzle-gamey to play through, and even in WITE that applying constant pressure to wear down the Heer until you start getting rout results was a more manageable strategy than trying to create and seal pockets with Panzer Divisions.

Good read.

Soviet doctrine is really fun in wargames, UoC especially. I had a really entertaining game in DC: Case Blue which involves getting slapped extremely hard by Germany until around late august / september where you can start to really push reserves into a weakened sector of the front (for me it was near Rostov). Its really satisfying to crack out multiple full strength divisons on weakened Heer tanks and infantry worn down by attrition and rivers then break through and not stop until entire army groups are encircled and destroyed.

V for Vegas
Sep 1, 2004

THUNDERDOME LOSER

gradenko_2000 posted:

The MilHist thread brought up this article and I wanted to share: Why Cold War Warsaw Pact Tactics Work in Wargaming


I don't think I've read a more :agesilaus: post than that in some time. Must be a blast at parties.

Dirt Worshipper
Apr 2, 2007

Paralithodes Californiensis
Is there a Decisive Campaigns (any of them) learning AAR anywhere? I own the game but I'd like to get to know it a bit better.

dublish
Oct 31, 2011


V for Vegas posted:

I don't think I've read a more :agesilaus: post than that in some time. Must be a blast at parties.

I can handle the smug. I wish he'd had an editor though.

maev
Dec 6, 2010
Economically illiterate Tory Boy Bollocks brain.
Keep away from children

Dirt Worshipper posted:

Is there a Decisive Campaigns (any of them) learning AAR anywhere? I own the game but I'd like to get to know it a bit better.

I made a brief and bad guide for WtP here. I'm sure there's better guides around though. http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=383266742

Alchenar
Apr 9, 2008

:siren: SCOURGE OF WAR MULTIPLAYER TIME! :siren:

When? Saturday! Afternoon-ish GMT

Where? CTS Mumble!

Why? Because I want my money's worth!

Mods? gently caress you no.

Drone
Aug 22, 2003

Incredible machine
:smug:



I don't own it, but someone please record it for posterity / stream it. I'm having too much fun reading up on Alikchi/Lord Windy's WITP game and want to see more groggy goon-versus-goon action.

Alchenar
Apr 9, 2008

I'm not clever enough to stream things but my ideal outcome is that we make it a regular weekly event and work our way through the battle.

Tekopo
Oct 24, 2008

When you see it, you'll shit yourself.


I'm up for that!

Dark_Swordmaster
Oct 31, 2011
I'll stream/archive. That'd be Saturday morning-ish for those of us in 'Merica right?

Alchenar
Apr 9, 2008

Dark_Swordmaster posted:

I'll stream/archive. That'd be Saturday morning-ish for those of us in 'Merica right?

Yeah, I'm being deliberately vague to allow time for a group consensus to emerge.

Dark_Swordmaster
Oct 31, 2011
What version? I own all of it so it doesn't matter TO ME but...

That said, I can't install Chancelorsville because Matrix is staffed exclusively by giant loving shitlord idiot jackass fuckbags and I don't have a download link on my product page after registering the serial and both my support ticket and forum thread have gone unanswered for two months because of their aforementioned condition. I guess now that we're finally showing interest again I'll resubmit the issue and see if they can take the cocks out of their mouths for five seconds to be helpful.

dublish
Oct 31, 2011


gently caress yeah. I have work at 4pm CST, ~10pm Eurotime, so there's definitely a great big window for me. Are we doing Gettysburg, or a different game?

Dark_Swordmaster posted:

What version? I own all of it so it doesn't matter TO ME but...

That said, I can't install Chancelorsville because Matrix is staffed exclusively by giant loving shitlord idiot jackass fuckbags and I don't have a download link on my product page after registering the serial and both my support ticket and forum thread have gone unanswered for two months because of their aforementioned condition. I guess now that we're finally showing interest again I'll resubmit the issue and see if they can take the cocks out of their mouths for five seconds to be helpful.

I can give you the install .exe for Chancellorsville.

dublish fucked around with this message at 17:46 on Apr 21, 2015

Drone
Aug 22, 2003

Incredible machine
:smug:



Does anyone have the link to that gorgeous WITP map mod again, the one Alikchi and Windy are using in their LP? I had it installed, but apparently updating WITP to the patch that came out a couple weeks ago nuked it for me and it's loading with the default map again.

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy

Drone posted:

Does anyone have the link to that gorgeous WITP map mod again, the one Alikchi and Windy are using in their LP? I had it installed, but apparently updating WITP to the patch that came out a couple weeks ago nuked it for me and it's loading with the default map again.

Baloogan posted:

TURKEY TROTS TO WATER GG FROM CINCPAC ACTION COM THIRD FLEET INFO ANYONE HAVE THAT LINK TO THAT GODDAMN AWESOME LOOKING MAP MOD FOR WITPAE???? RR THE WORLD WONDERS

Of course they had to rename it to something like Yamato Damashii

Baloogan
Dec 5, 2004
Fun Shoe
First time in my 10+ years on SA that I had a probation rescinded. edit: I got probation for that all caps post ^^

I'm making some web tools for my WITPAE PBEM:

https://secure.baloogancampaign.com:8081/map

Right now writing something to do my map tiling so I don't have MapTiler.com all over the place.

Baloogan fucked around with this message at 19:13 on Apr 21, 2015

Baudin
Dec 31, 2009

Drone posted:

Does anyone have the link to that gorgeous WITP map mod again, the one Alikchi and Windy are using in their LP? I had it installed, but apparently updating WITP to the patch that came out a couple weeks ago nuked it for me and it's loading with the default map again.

I have a variant of it, you can pm Alikchi for his version or I can send you what he put together for me and Samolety.

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy

Baloogan posted:

First time in my 10+ years on SA that I had a probation rescinded. edit: I got probation for that all caps post ^^

I'm making some web tools for my WITPAE PBEM:

https://secure.baloogancampaign.com:8081/map

Right now writing something to do my map tiling so I don't have MapTiler.com all over the place.

I had to reread your post carefully because at first I thought you were going to recreate WITP using Command Ops.

Pharnakes
Aug 14, 2009
Any Goon opinions on Making History: The Great War?

Its got good reviews on steam, but I'm a little hesitant all the same, looks like it could very easily be a HOI3/Supreme Ruler mess.

Kibbles n Shits
Apr 8, 2006

burgerpug.png


Fun Shoe
I haven't played The Great War but I've played the others and they are basically HoI3 lite. Very simplified combat and economy mechanics but it was pretty fun for the price. Definitely nothing like the clusterfuck that is Supreme Ruler.

It's like if Axis and Allies was trying to be more like Hearts of Iron.

mmtt
May 8, 2009
Anyone has heard of Order of Battle: Pacific from Slitherine ?

There's a twitch stream starting up http://www.twitch.tv/slitherinegroup
e: stream over

mmtt fucked around with this message at 20:16 on Apr 22, 2015

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
So I downloaded/bought Command Ops 2 because it was free. How is this supposed to work? At what level should I be issuing orders to troops and how often should I muck around with them?

V for Vegas
Sep 1, 2004

THUNDERDOME LOSER

gradenko_2000 posted:

So I downloaded/bought Command Ops 2 because it was free. How is this supposed to work? At what level should I be issuing orders to troops and how often should I muck around with them?

I find the battalion level is best. Return to St Vith gives you three battalions.



Don't muck around with them too much - giving new orders paralyses your troops for a while as the new orders filter down. This scenario is pretty easy, just give your units orders to attack the first town across the river and they will sort themselves out to do it without much interference. Then start moving them up to St Vith.

Yooper
Apr 30, 2012


Oh hey, that's from my Lets Play. Glad to see someone read it!

You can find the rest of the Lets Play here : http://goo.gl/bjV7lH

Command Ops can get really messy when you start to micromanage. Your officers can usually do a decent job, but sometimes they get really stupid and are just plain stuck. Instead of trying to control individual companies just set sequential Attack / Move orders exactly where you want the Battalions to go. Leapfrogging up your supplies and artillery to Lommersweiler helps later on too.

I still have to install Command Ops 2. I was put off by the exceptionally Grogy pricing model.

Pornographic Memory
Dec 17, 2008

mmtt posted:

Anyone has heard of Order of Battle: Pacific from Slitherine ?

There's a twitch stream starting up http://www.twitch.tv/slitherinegroup
e: stream over

The screenshots make it look pretty similar to Panzer Corps. Looks interesting but I hope it's more than just essentially a Pacific Theater reskin of Panzer Corps.

Nenonen
Oct 22, 2009

Mulla on aina kolkyt donaa taskussa
Here, enjoy some Red Thunder tournament pics...


"Sehr gut! Und now, step 2: Fritz, erect ze 'FREE WODKA' sign to lure ze Sowiet Panzer within 200 metre effective range..."


It was supposed to be a milk run but they just had some bad Luchs...

Nenonen
Oct 22, 2009

Mulla on aina kolkyt donaa taskussa

Pornographic Memory posted:

The screenshots make it look pretty similar to Panzer Corps. Looks interesting but I hope it's more than just essentially a Pacific Theater reskin of Panzer Corps.

There's front lines so I think it must have some kind of logistics system akin to Unity of Command at the very least.

corn in the bible
Jun 5, 2004

Oh no oh god it's all true!
i lost the war early, but i can solidly recommend end all wars if you are into ageod -- they finally found a good scale to let them keep some of the stuff they wanted to do in PoN (blockading trade networks, for example) while still being fundamentally a war game. it owns and is good.

dtkozl
Dec 17, 2001

ultima ratio regum
One thing I found worth the micro in command ops are AA companies. They can really produce prodigious amounts of pain so long as you keep them away from enemy tanks but the AI tends to keep them in the rear.

Saros
Dec 29, 2009

Its almost like we're a Bureaucracy, in space!

I set sail for the Planet of Lab Requisitions!!

Pornographic Memory posted:

The screenshots make it look pretty similar to Panzer Corps. Looks interesting but I hope it's more than just essentially a Pacific Theater reskin of Panzer Corps.

It looks like a civilisation mod in those screenshots!

Alchenar
Apr 9, 2008

Reminder, Scourge of War: Gettysburg on Saturday at around, oh lets say 3pm GMT. Be installed/patched etc.

Generation Internet
Jan 18, 2009

Where angels and generals fear to tread.

Nenonen posted:

Here, enjoy some Red Thunder tournament pics...


"Sehr gut! Und now, step 2: Fritz, erect ze 'FREE WODKA' sign to lure ze Sowiet Panzer within 200 metre effective range..."


It was supposed to be a milk run but they just had some bad Luchs...

"Hey, weird that he's uploading pictures without having uploaded the turn..."

Welp, guess who's dropbox was having a fit for the last week :suicide:

e: Have a gif as a token of apology, wherin an armoured car bounces a T-34 shell.

http://i.imgur.com/i6W4TTL.gifv

Generation Internet fucked around with this message at 01:15 on Apr 24, 2015

uPen
Jan 25, 2010

Zu Rodina!

Nenonen posted:

Here, enjoy some Red Thunder tournament pics...


"Sehr gut! Und now, step 2: Fritz, erect ze 'FREE WODKA' sign to lure ze Sowiet Panzer within 200 metre effective range..."


It was supposed to be a milk run but they just had some bad Luchs...

What have you been doing to those poor cows? :(

Jobbo_Fett
Mar 7, 2014

Slava Ukrayini

Clapping Larry

uPen posted:

What have you been doing to those poor cows? :(

It got confused and thought it was a Fuchs

:downsrim:

Drone
Aug 22, 2003

Incredible machine
:smug:



So it's a Matrix game, which makes it a grognard game: Qvadriga is half off on the Humble store this weekend.

Anyone have it and can say how it is?

Riso
Oct 11, 2008

by merry exmarx

Drone posted:

So it's a Matrix game, which makes it a grognard game: Qvadriga is half off on the Humble store this weekend.

Anyone have it and can say how it is?

I think Grey had a video lp? It's pretty weird because it's turn-based and the graphics are bad yet it seems like an interesting and fun game all the same.

Lichtenstein
May 31, 2012

It'll make sense, eventually.
10 bucks is about a good price for this game. It's a very, very cool coffeebreak game - the kind you launch for a race or two, mourn the death of your favorite auriga and then go do something else. Not something you'd marathon all night, but if you want a light game to gently caress around every now and then, it's good at that.

Drone
Aug 22, 2003

Incredible machine
:smug:



Lichtenstein posted:

10 bucks is about a good price for this game. It's a very, very cool coffeebreak game - the kind you launch for a race or two, mourn the death of your favorite auriga and then go do something else. Not something you'd marathon all night, but if you want a light game to gently caress around every now and then, it's good at that.

It's out for tablets too and I've wishlisted it for awhile, but I doubt it'll ever go on sale there. Games like that are what I use my tablet for :sigh:

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Myoclonic Jerk
Nov 10, 2008

Cool it a minute, babe, let me finish playing with my fake gun.
RPS released a list of "The 50 Best Strategy Games of All Time." I'm feeling fat and sassy that my client, Unity of Command, made the list at #22 - they even linked to my interview from back in the day of Ante Turadic about the game's AI!

What games are missing? Which ones shouldn't be on there or should be higher up?

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