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Against green devotion you want to be bringing in Roasts, Heelcutters and Magmatic Chasms if you have them. What you take out is a bit harder. Definitely drop your Lightning Strikes because they don't have many good targets. Frank Karsten suggested taking out Wild Slash on the play but creatures on the draw (so you can take out their mystics) but I'm not entirely sure about that.
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Dohaeris posted:drat, Xmage stopped working. Client launches but the connect window never shows up and I can't click anything in the toolbar. Have to kill it with task manager. If you wait a long time it'll time out and let you try another server which also won't work. 
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Apr 24, 2015 06:10
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suicidesteve posted:If you wait a long time it'll time out and let you try another server which also won't work. If you want to goldfish you can play on localhost at least!
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Apr 24, 2015 06:25
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Elyv posted:If you want to goldfish you can play on localhost at least! I am playing Shops, so yeah I pretty much do want to goldfish.
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Apr 24, 2015 06:40
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Dohaeris posted:1 Scouring Sands I like rending volley as a sideboard option recently. The amount of esper control floating around after CFB people lorded it as "the best deck in standard" has increased dramatically and its a easy answer to ojutai in game 2.
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just had this happen with my living end against a modern UB mill brew, found it a bit hilarious. he had the good manners to let me resolve it all as well. i kinda screwed up screening it, but this was my final living end to hit (the others were binned). ended the game with 4 cards in library.
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Apr 24, 2015 07:07
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How are the Eidolons working for you? I'm also playing Atarka Red and I currently don't have any but am seriously considering it.
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BattleCake posted:How are the Eidolons working for you? I'm also playing Atarka Red and I currently don't have any but am seriously considering it. Eidolons are so important against the Control matchup in which they make all of their countermagic/kill spells help you achieve your goal: killing them as fast as possible.
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suicidesteve posted:I am playing Shops, so yeah I pretty much do want to goldfish. It's back up, btw.
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Apr 24, 2015 07:36
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Count Bleck posted:Eidolons are so important against the Control matchup in which they make all of their countermagic/kill spells help you achieve your goal: killing them as fast as possible. Agreed, you can almost see UB control players sigh when I play one of those turn two. They basically have to remove it first or everything they do pings them. Heelcutters and Magmatic Chasms and Rending Volley are all good things to consider for the sideboard. I like Searing Blood a ton but I don't think I can use it much in comparison to the other stuff and my meta so I might side that out for something.
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lsv has a sweet new column on cfb where he presents a scenario and you figure out the correct play: http://www.channelfireball.com/articles/whats-the-play/ i'm glad for more content like that. crux is out in my mind, i was leaning towards invocation to gain back some life but comments point out that deathdealer is going to be able to regen through the downfall so they'll sac the lion and blank your removal in hand, so i think bile blight is the pick so you can kill deathdealer after untapping, scryland, and then kill lion.
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Apr 24, 2015 14:14
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black potus posted:lsv has a sweet new column on cfb where he presents a scenario and you figure out the correct play: http://www.channelfireball.com/articles/whats-the-play/ Bile Blight is just optimal for curve reasons as well. If you take Crux you either play nothing on turn 3, or you're relying on an untapped land draw to be able to actually cast it on 5. You take Bile Blight, play tapped lands turns 3 + 4 (while still casting spells those turns) and then you still have your untapped land in hand to find the most advantageous spot for the tempo boost (even if it's just windmilling out Ojutai on turn 5). The lifegain isn't too relevant here, abzan is a deck that you can meaningfully stabilize the board against (unlike red aggro where you can "stabilize" and still lose to a topdeck stoke or something).
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So stop me if we're already gone over this, but, lets say i use Narset to rebound lightning bolt. I know it would trigger prowess the first time i would cast it, but would it trigger again after the rebound?
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MySwan posted:So stop me if we're already gone over this, but, lets say i use Narset to rebound lightning bolt. I know it would trigger prowess the first time i would cast it, but would it trigger again after the rebound? You're casting the spell again so yes.
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black potus posted:lsv has a sweet new column on cfb where he presents a scenario and you figure out the correct play: http://www.channelfireball.com/articles/whats-the-play/ I love that poo poo. MaRo got his career started doing puzzles for The Duelist, and I used to love those YOU CAN'T WIN things on InQuest. MySwan posted:So stop me if we're already gone over this, but, lets say i use Narset to rebound lightning bolt. I know it would trigger prowess the first time i would cast it, but would it trigger again after the rebound? Yes. It's still casting a spell. Same with Flashback, by the way.
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black potus posted:lsv has a sweet new column on cfb where he presents a scenario and you figure out the correct play: http://www.channelfireball.com/articles/whats-the-play/ Flores has had a gimmick like this on tcgplayer for a while now every Monday, but his writing is so annoying I couldn't be bothered to actually read/care about them after the first few. Glad LSV is running with it now on CFB. I'd also go Bile Blight, hit Deathdealer with it.
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Apr 24, 2015 15:54
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What mana rules article is MaRo going on about in his tweet?
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Apr 24, 2015 15:54
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dragon enthusiast posted:What mana rules article is MaRo going on about in his tweet? This one. Note the url.
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Apr 24, 2015 16:02
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Lancelot posted:This one. Note the url. Clone Zone sounds like a cool card name. Blue and/or Red, some sort of unplayable Mythic. Enchtanment, costs a buttload of mana, at the beginning of your upkeep, do the Clone Legion thing, those tokens have haste and die at EOT?
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Apr 24, 2015 16:06
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So they are bringing back mana burn, but mana now only empties at the end of turn? Huh, Sword of Feast and Famine got a bit better (not that it needed it) and people hording Braid of Fire can now unload them on semi-casual players who wanna make big mana decks. I'm not a fan but it makes sense, and I doubt it will be to major of an effect on the game.
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Madmarker posted:So they are bringing back mana burn, but mana now only empties at the end of turn? Bazinga!
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Apr 24, 2015 16:13
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Serperoth posted:Clone Zone sounds like a cool card name. Blue and/or Red, some sort of unplayable Mythic. Enchtanment, costs a buttload of mana, at the beginning of your upkeep, do the Clone Legion thing, those tokens have haste and die at EOT? Clone Zoness sounds like a cool dude to Madmarker posted:So they are bringing back mana burn, but mana now only empties at the end of turn? It's very likely that they're fake. Also it's kind of a big deal for pestermite/exarch/port type effects although it's not like wizards would have a strong stance in defending the power of those cards cuz they are peak feelbads.
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Madmarker posted:So they are bringing back mana burn, but mana now only empties at the end of turn? I'm loving stupid! 
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Apr 24, 2015 16:15
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Ah I just read blogatog, it seems like it was a fake :Blogatog posted:dlilly8021 asked: So my group just saw the mana burn article. Is this real life?
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Zoness posted:It's fake. I took the liberty of cutting some chaff from your post, hope it's okay.
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Apr 24, 2015 16:18
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God I'm an idiot.
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Serperoth posted:I took the liberty of cutting some chaff from your post, hope it's okay. All good. At least the article is an interesting mental exercise in "would wizards ever possibly do this".
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*senator vreenak voice* its a faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaake *dies to mana burn*
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The tweet by Maro that started this conversation said it was a fake and I explicitly said when I posted the link to look at the URL. 
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Lancelot posted:The tweet by Maro that started this conversation said it was a fake and I explicitly said when I posted the link to look at the URL. yeah, you did, I just looked at the end of the url where it mentioned the mana stuff, like a genius
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Madmarker posted:yeah, you did, I just looked at the end of the url where it mentioned the mana stuff, like a genius I literally woke up and saw a link and saw a link near the last post in the thread and read it. I'm smart.
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I guess people just missed the CloneZone thing at the bottom of the page scrolling with you. With a link to the page editing site and obvious Facebook, Twitter and Reddit buttons.
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Having mana only empty at end of turn would actually be a good change. Is there a reason it doesn't already work that way other than inertia and Braid of Fire?
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Lottery of Babylon posted:Having mana only empty at end of turn would actually be a good change. Is there a reason it doesn't already work that way other than inertia and Braid of Fire? Pestermite/Wasteland/Rishadan Port on upkeep is a pretty common interaction they'd need a good reason to remove entirely.
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Apr 24, 2015 16:38
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I didn't notice the URL but I did notice this:quote:the last big shift was attached to the release of the Magic2010 core set in 2005.
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Apr 24, 2015 16:46
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That fake article says Magic 2010 came out in 2005.
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Apr 24, 2015 16:50
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Makes sense, M15 came out in 2010.
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M20 was an amazing draft format
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RME posted:M20 was an amazing draft format it went great in my draft format edh deck
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