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Is anyone else furiously rubbing one out to the news that not only is the Comcast/TWC deal finito, but the Charter/Brighthouse deal is also dead, and the Comcast/Charter market divesting is dead too. I'm a hater, but I have to give it to Obama on this one for not staffing the DOJ and FCC with robots looping "deal approved. deal approved. deal approved."
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I'd love to see the right wing media machine start to try to spin as Comcast as a widdle poor innocent victim of the mean old job killing Obama administration, but I'm afraid it would work.
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Apr 24, 2015 16:23
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Radbot posted:Is anyone else furiously rubbing one out to the news that not only is the Comcast/TWC deal finito, but the Charter/Brighthouse deal is also dead, and the Comcast/Charter market divesting is dead too. Jesus christ. http://www.forbes.com/sites/antoinegara/2015/04/24/why-you-shouldnt-celebrate-the-collapse-of-comcasts-bid-for-time-warner-cable/ quote:Celebrations of the collapse of Comcast's $45 billion takeover of Time Warner Cable may prove short-lived. Instead of a cable sector with lower debt loads and more cash available to bear the brunt of falling subscription prices or added capital investment, U.S. consumers are now likely to get their service from increasingly leveraged providers who may not have the financial wherewithal to handle the industry’s continued upheaval and its chronic spending needs.
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Apr 24, 2015 16:24
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^^^^ That Forbes article is lickspittle right?Vahakyla posted:Are law enforcement agents from local and state level disarmed before getting close to the Prez? What about federal, non SS, agents? Don't worry, that baby crocodile has been vetted.
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Apr 24, 2015 16:26
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Woolie Wool posted:I thought one of the reasons the whole birther meme became so strong was that, as well as being black, Obama has a "foreign" name, so why would his real super secret Kenyan Candidate identity in the birther stories have a more familiar name? Barry Soetoro sounds like he could be one of the guys working at the Circle K down the road. Because Barry Soetoro was his CIA cover identity for the project to teleport chrononauts to Mars from 1981-83.
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Apr 24, 2015 16:28
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Joementum posted:Because Barry Soetoro was his CIA cover identity for the project to teleport chrononauts to Mars from 1981-83. I wish the world was half as cool as infowars people thought it was.
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Apr 24, 2015 16:30
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silvergoose posted:Jesus christ. Am I reading this wrong, or is it literally "Now people won't have to buy cable internet from a soulless megacorp because it's the only show in town, they'll actually have choices! Think of the megacorp's profit margin  "
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Apr 24, 2015 16:30
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silvergoose posted:"Celebrations of the collapse of Comcast's $45 billion takeover of Time Warner Cable may prove short-lived. Instead of a cable sector with lower debt loads and more cash available to bear the brunt of falling subscription prices or added capital investment, U.S. consumers are now likely to get their service from increasingly leveraged providers who may not have the financial wherewithal to handle the industry’s continued upheaval and its chronic spending needs." Sounds like they need to be broken up like the Bells.
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Apr 24, 2015 16:31
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Alter Ego posted:Am I reading this wrong, or is it literally "Now people won't have to buy cable internet from a soulless megacorp because it's the only show in town, they'll actually have choices! Think of the megacorp's profit margin it's a bad thing for consumers that the increasingly unpopular and pricy services will become more expensive and shittier because
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Apr 24, 2015 16:33
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Alter Ego posted:Am I reading this wrong, or is it literally "Now people won't have to buy cable internet from a soulless megacorp because it's the only show in town, they'll actually have choices! Think of the megacorp's profit margin It's Forbes, so yeah.
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Apr 24, 2015 16:33
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They would be so much stronger if they were all one corporation. Think of how efficient it would be!
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Apr 24, 2015 16:34
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ReidRansom posted:It's Forbes, so yeah. Yeah I'm not posting it because it's a valid opinion, I'm posting it because I saw the headline and thought "This has to be one of the worst written piles of crap linked from google finance"
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Apr 24, 2015 16:35
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OK, you can control 95% of the cable infrastructure in the county but you have to super mega promise not to gouge the poo poo out your customers ok 
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Apr 24, 2015 16:35
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Raenir Salazar posted:^^^^ That Forbes article is lickspittle right? Always. If you see Forbes, put on a poncho so you don't get slobber from the sloppy BJ you're about to see.
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Apr 24, 2015 16:41
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Radbot posted:Is anyone else furiously rubbing one out to the news that not only is the Comcast/TWC deal finito, but the Charter/Brighthouse deal is also dead, and the Comcast/Charter market divesting is dead too. The new head of the FCC is a guy who ran a cable ISP in the 80s similar to AOL that was run out of business by the telecommunication companies' and AOL's business practices so he knows a thing or two about this. Like the one time putting a businessman in charge of regulation works, he got screwed and wants to unfuck it for everyone else.
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Apr 24, 2015 16:45
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silvergoose posted:Jesus christ. "No seriously this is an example of where capitalism isn't going to have someone ready to take advantage of a business failing I mean it really, look at my face would I lie to you"
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Apr 24, 2015 16:47
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eNeMeE posted:Always. If you see Forbes, put on a poncho so you don't get slobber from the sloppy BJ you're about to see. The argument doesn't even make sense from a shill perspective. Charter is over leveraged so a deal between Comcast (which has low debt) and TWC (which has low debt) being blocked will lead to greater costs for consumers!
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Apr 24, 2015 16:47
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Just nationalize internet infrastructure and treat it as a public utility already.
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Apr 24, 2015 16:51
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Salvor_Hardin posted:Just nationalize internet infrastructure and treat it as a public utility already. Bu...but private industry does it better...For ridiculous profit margins
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Apr 24, 2015 16:52
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Salvor_Hardin posted:Just nationalize Yeah but actually this.
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Apr 24, 2015 16:55
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McAlister posted:A charity like the clinton foundation is a tool that makes money go away. A hedge fund is a tool that accumulates money. They are the opposite of each other. So the Clinton's charity is nothing like the Bush's hedge funds. I have first hand knowledge of the Clinton foundation, and they do a lot of great work in Africa, specifically. A little more elevated from street level problems than a VSO or Save the Children or something, but its remarkable how quickly they ramped up and provided funds for needed projects to sit across the table of a USAID or the like. They do help a lot of people (with only the attendant problems of any international charitable organization, really). zoux posted:OK, you can control 95% of the cable infrastructure in the county but you have to super mega promise not to gouge the poo poo out your customers ok Don't forget expand services in rural areas. Enforcement mechanism? What enforcement mechanism? Shageletic fucked around with this message at 17:11 on Apr 24, 2015 |
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Apr 24, 2015 17:04
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quote:more cash available to bear the brunt of falling subscription prices or added capital investment "No seriously, once we buy out all of our competition I promise we'll lower prices and spend on better infrastructure even though we'll have every incentive to do the opposite."
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Apr 24, 2015 17:23
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Sorus posted:I'm willing to give the Navy a pass; they do more than just blow up brown people (anti-piracy, sea search and rescue, etc). The other branches of the US military though have no redeeming features. The Army Corps of Engineers does good work pretty darn regularly. The Air Force's humanitarian work mostly consists of air delivery of aid material. Neither exciting nor high-cost-effectiveness, but I guess it counts. (also since when does "anti-piracy" not involve shooting/blowing up Somalians and Malaysians) Oh, and there was also Obama's utilization of a wider swathe of the Army for the Ebola relief efforts.
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Apr 24, 2015 17:33
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Shageletic posted:I have first hand knowledge of the Clinton foundation, and they do a lot of great work in Africa, specifically. Benghazi is in Africa! More proof she funded and planned the attacks!
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Apr 24, 2015 17:34
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By the way, how do TW and Comcast operate legally even NOW, deliberately choosing cities so they don't need to compete with each other like they do?
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Apr 24, 2015 17:36
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Samurai Sanders posted:By the way, how do TW and Comcast operate legally even NOW, deliberately choosing cities so they don't need to compete with each other like they do?
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Apr 24, 2015 17:38
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Samurai Sanders posted:By the way, how do TW and Comcast operate legally even NOW, deliberately choosing cities so they don't need to compete with each other like they do? It's perfectly legal to do that as long as there's no explicit agreement. Even if they both think that as long as they don't move into the other's territory the other won't move into theirs, that's legal absent an actual agreement not to compete.
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Apr 24, 2015 17:38
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GreyjoyBastard posted:(also since when does "anti-piracy" not involve shooting/blowing up Somalians and Malaysians) Protecting people from said Somalians and Malaysians is a good use of force.
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Apr 24, 2015 17:40
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evilweasel posted:It's perfectly legal to do that as long as there's no explicit agreement. Even if they both think that as long as they don't move into the other's territory the other won't move into theirs, that's legal absent an actual agreement not to compete.
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GreyjoyBastard posted:The Army Corps of Engineers does good work pretty darn regularly. Almost no counterpiracy operations end in killing.
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Apr 24, 2015 17:42
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GreyjoyBastard posted:(also since when does "anti-piracy" not involve shooting/blowing up Somalians and Malaysians) It technically qualifies but I somehow don't think anti-piracy is the same kind of blowing up brown people that post was referring to. ^^^also that
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Apr 24, 2015 17:44
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Maarek posted:Sounds like they need to be broken up like the Bells. No, the phrase you're looking for is "last-mile un-bundling"
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Apr 24, 2015 17:46
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Munkeymon posted:No, the phrase you're looking for is "last-mile un-bundling" Which is why ATT invested so heavily in DSL upgrades....oh wait.
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Apr 24, 2015 17:48
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happyhippy posted:Benghazi is in Africa! Benghazi Benghazi Benghazi! The worst Tora sequel.
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Apr 24, 2015 17:55
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Samurai Sanders posted:If that's the standard of evidence for an antitrust case, how do antitrust cases ever happen? Isn't there an equivalent of the RICO law for antitrust? It needs to be explicit in some way. If firms behave in ways beneficial to each other without saying they want to, it is legal. Firms can get other firms to do so by 'signaling'.
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Apr 24, 2015 17:57
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GreyjoyBastard posted:(also since when does "anti-piracy" not involve shooting/blowing up Somalians and Malaysians) As someone who once responded to a pirate attack, I can certifiably say that you don't know what you're talking about  All branches do a considerable amount of humanitarian aid, though, the Navy and Air Force do a lot of the heavy lifting. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Unified_Response http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Humanitarian_response_to_Typhoon_Haiyan http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Tomodachi The community events as well as the response to Typhoon Haiyan are some of my proudest moments in the Navy.
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Boon posted:All branches do a considerable amount of humanitarian aid, though, the Navy and Air Force do a lot of the heavy lifting. I am going to unilaterally state that aid personnel count as supplies so I was still technically right. (Thanks for the citations.)
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Apr 24, 2015 18:06
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Trabisnikof posted:Which is why ATT invested so heavily in DSL upgrades....oh wait. They did, though. They probably just aren't called AT&T anymore. For example, Century Link is the current name of the entity that absorbed the Baby Bell that used to service my area and there's no reason to think the same re-conglomeration wouldn't happen to a bunch of regional cable providers - especially because a bunch of regional mergers got us where we are today in the first place. Last mile un-bundling has nothing to do with how bad DSL is. Old assed phone lines are just not capable of the speeds you can get out of shielded coax.
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Apr 24, 2015 18:07
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We can now make hologram Congressmen and the first person they tried it out on was Blake Farenthold  
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Blowdryer posted:It needs to be explicit in some way. If firms behave in ways beneficial to each other without saying they want to, it is legal. Firms can get other firms to do so by 'signaling'. "I cannot coordinate with my [competitors] in any way, so I publicly call on them, speaking as a private citizen, to not [invade my territory and I won't invade theirs]."
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