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Wamsutta posted:Just when you thought body cladding was maaaaaaybe over and done with, BOOM, VW lays a golden log. I think they'll sell fairly well even though they're years late to the market. Naturally there won't be a diesel because you can't fit a urea tank anywhere on the vehicle since it has independent rear suspension 
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The Alltrack will sell well, the Sportwagen R would sell maybe 1,000 examples a year at most.
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:The Alltrack will sell well, the Sportwagen R would sell maybe 1,000 examples a year at most. I'd be one of those 1000 though and that's all that matters to me 
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Apr 24, 2015 17:11
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I still don't see the Alltrack selling a fraction of what Subaru does with the XV Crosstrek. I don't think they went far enough with the visual differences. It's not going to look "rugged" enough for the people who are buying that type of vehicle. Both the Outback and the Crosstrek have a certain 'stance' to them. The Alltrack looks just like a golf wagon with a bit too much fender gap that they tried to cover with cladding.
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Apr 24, 2015 17:13
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I don't think it's meant to pull subaru buyers to volkswagen, i think it was meant to upsell VW buyers from a $20k golf to a $25k "crossover"
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Apr 24, 2015 17:17
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Isn't that the point of the Tiguan?
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Apr 24, 2015 17:18
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KakerMix posted:I'd be one of those 1000 though and that's all that matters to me I'd strongly consider it myself, but it just doesn't make sense for VW.
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Apr 24, 2015 17:19
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bull3964 posted:Isn't that the point of the Tiguan? No, the point of the tiquan is to remind VW bosses that they're not now, and will never be a premium brand by selling in a year what the escape sells in a month.
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Apr 24, 2015 17:23
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bull3964 posted:Isn't that the point of the Tiguan? The tiguan has no point
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Apr 24, 2015 17:35
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:The tiguan has no point Without them, how could we have a lovely, annoying commercial filmed in a horse stable that plays twice every SINGLE loving COMMERCIAL BREAK?
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Apr 25, 2015 00:15
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:The tiguan has no point  e: Actually that probably applies to most VWs.
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Apr 25, 2015 00:22
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bull3964 posted:I still don't see the Alltrack selling a fraction of what Subaru does with the XV Crosstrek. I'd be in a Crosstrek instead of my Golf if it came with a better engine option and didn't get the CVT standard if you want any options packages. I'd almost definitely upgrade for an Alltrack TDI, but that's not happening so I'll keep my Golf.
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PT6A posted:Without them, how could we have a lovely, annoying commercial filmed in a horse stable that plays twice every SINGLE loving COMMERCIAL BREAK? Holy hell, it's a Canada-specific ad. No wonder it's not as funny as the other VW ads. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sa2Mgsr69Vs The Tiguan: it came out of a horse's vagina.™ New, from "Look out," she said, breathily, half-lidded eyes and plump lips teasing me like prey, "it's a thoroughbred." She passed me the keys to a Tiguan. I could feel my vision dimming at the edges. Seat Safety Switch fucked around with this message at 00:57 on Apr 25, 2015 |
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Apr 25, 2015 00:52
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I still miss the "unpimp the auto" campaign. I wish all car ad campaigns could be that funny.
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Speaking of VW the GolfR420 (formally R400? I guess?) is getting produced. This is the same insane-ness that fuels the idea behind the Hellcats, but instead it's super hot hatches. I love it.
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Apr 25, 2015 05:21
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I wonder how a $55,000 Golf will sell.
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Apr 25, 2015 05:47
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A friend of mine recently picked up a Golf R and it's a really nice car and super quick with like 300bhp but IT'S SO loving QUIET. There's virtually naff all noise coming from the thing as it winds up and disappears... The noise it does produce is really nice but there's just not enough of it at all. Stupidly quiet car.
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PT6A posted:I still miss the "unpimp the auto" campaign. I wish all car ad campaigns could be that funny. Isn't that the truth? Peter Stormare made those commercials. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1MNEqCr748
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KakerMix posted:Speaking of VW the GolfR420 (formally R400? I guess?) is getting produced. This is the same insane-ness that fuels the idea behind the Hellcats, but instead it's super hot hatches. I love it. 410-ish HP from a turbo 2.0L in a (kinda) mass-produced hatchback. What a world we live in.
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Sigma X posted:410-ish HP from a turbo 2.0L in a (kinda) mass-produced hatchback. What a world we live in. I'm interested in their reasoning to not go with the 5 cylinder. You always hear "X manufacturer doesn't bring X engine over because of federalization costs" but then you get them doing poo poo like this. I guess they think it would steal RS3 sales if they bring it over? I assume it's going to be a little cheaper, so it would probably do that anyway.
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fknlo posted:I'm interested in their reasoning to not go with the 5 cylinder. You always hear "X manufacturer doesn't bring X engine over because of federalization costs" but then you get them doing poo poo like this. I guess they think it would steal RS3 sales if they bring it over? I assume it's going to be a little cheaper, so it would probably do that anyway. This might be crossposting from the general chat thread, but 1) Audi already said that boosting power of the 2.0 any higher makes it too peaky and laggy, and that adding the extra cyl really made a big difference, and 2) It's already going to cannibalizes sales of the RS3.
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fknlo posted:I'm interested in their reasoning to not go with the 5 cylinder. You always hear "X manufacturer doesn't bring X engine over because of federalization costs" but then you get them doing poo poo like this. I guess they think it would steal RS3 sales if they bring it over? I assume it's going to be a little cheaper, so it would probably do that anyway. Because the spirit that made the Ur-Quattro what it was said it would exact revenge on them if they ever put a five-cylinder engine in a car undeserving of it again
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fknlo posted:I'm interested in their reasoning to not go with the 5 cylinder. You always hear "X manufacturer doesn't bring X engine over because of federalization costs" but then you get them doing poo poo like this. I guess they think it would steal RS3 sales if they bring it over? I assume it's going to be a little cheaper, so it would probably do that anyway. Doesn't the VW 5cyl merely have the power of a four with the economy of a six, or have they made a modern one?
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Cocoa Crispies posted:Doesn't the VW 5cyl merely have the power of a four with the economy of a six, or have they made a modern one? You're thinking of the one that was in the base golf/jetta. This is the one from the TTRS. The RS3 is also getting it and it would have made sense to put it in the super golf as well.
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Speaking of hot hatches, please please please Peugeot put this 500hp hybrid hatch into production:  270hp 1.6L turbo 4-cylinder and two 115hp electric motors. http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/peugeot/308/91165/shock-493bhp-peugeot-308-r-hybrid-set-to-get-the-green-light
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Rather impressed with the new Mustang. Got one as a rental for work and pretty decent. Ecoboost version with heated/cooled seats so must be the premium. Hood is enormous though.
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Bovril Delight posted:Rather impressed with the new Mustang. Got one as a rental for work and pretty decent. Ecoboost version with heated/cooled seats so must be the premium. I drove one over the weekend too, 6spd performance pack and I absolutely loved it, felt just about perfect to me. The only downside would be getting asked "why didn't you buy a V8?" constantly. I like the way the hood is.
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KozmoNaut posted:Speaking of hot hatches, please please please Peugeot put this 500hp hybrid hatch into production: That's a decent looking car and drive train. I love the colour even more, (I had one of my cars painted a similar blue before)
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SFH1989 posted:I drove one over the weekend too, 6spd performance pack and I absolutely loved it, felt just about perfect to me. The only downside would be getting asked "why didn't you buy a V8?" constantly. I like the way the hood is. Because: 
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"Because I like having the option to spend a bunch of money modifying it to still be worse than the V8."
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What about "i regularly drive up to the top of mount evans or pikes peak, at which the ecoboost would have more horsepower"
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Apr 27, 2015 23:16
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"Turbo noises."
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KillHour posted:"Turbo noises." vs V8 noises? That seems dubious as reasoning. What about, 'because it was the one i wanted you asshat, keep your stupid opinions to yourself.'? Also, wouldn't it theoretically be the better autocrosser due to lighter up front?
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tijag posted:vs V8 noises? turbo noises are this generation's V8 noises tisssssssssssss
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Apr 28, 2015 01:41
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Why not both? 
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tijag posted:vs V8 noises? The regular GT stang isn't a flat plane V8, so yes. If you can afford the GT350, be my guest. Edit: What I'm saying is Ford really does have a car for every enthusiast, now. You want a cheap practical car that's a ton of fun? Fiesta ST. You want to take every corner sideways? In the snow? Up a mountain? Focus RS. You want a pony car? Do you like turbos or American V8s? Oh you want your pony car to sound like a Ferrari? We got that too. You want a super car that actually competes with a Ferrari? Yup! It's loving mental. 
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The new Mustang is a quantum leap in pretty much every way and the Premium interior is way nicer than it has any right to be. Aside from the looks being kind of  Ford just crushed it.
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sean10mm posted:The new Mustang is a quantum leap in pretty much every way and the Premium interior is way nicer than it has any right to be. Aside from the looks being kind of They're also a good bit more expensive though, I got a 2013 V6 premium brand new for $22,500. I can't see swinging an ecoboost for under $28k at least.
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Powershift posted:Why not both? Go the Triumph way and just slap two of their four cylinder motors together to make the worst V8 ever
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You Am I posted:Go the Triumph way and just slap two of their four cylinder motors together to make the worst V8 ever And yeah, the S550s are loving insane. And expensive. My poor bank account. I want so badly to put the order in on 5/11. But I really should wait until December. The bad side is I want Sync3 *and* cooled seats. Which means 2016. Without sync3 I could grab a 2015 and enjoy it this summer. Without cooled seats I could get a 2015 not-premium or a FoST. If I could play with Sync3 for a while it would really help. Too bad its not out anywhere to play with.
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