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I'm gonna be so pissed when 50,000 people die in Nepal and none of them were rich dudes on Everest.
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Apr 25, 2015 11:07
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A guy from base camp reports in. Base camp okay, upper camps, question mark. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w4qQhQ86Ngo
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Apr 25, 2015 11:10
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Some are reporting the quake at 8,1. That is pretty loving bad. Also, if the avalanches on Everest didn't kill anyone I'm a monkey's uncle.
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Apr 25, 2015 11:12
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Dely Apple posted:A guy from base camp reports in. Base camp okay, upper camps, question mark. This is from the base camp of Makalu, not Everest. It's not that far from it though.
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Apr 25, 2015 11:13
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Everest base camp is reporting 2 dead at base camp. I don't know if they can reach camps 1 and 2 by radio or if they're still a mystery. Anyone got more info?
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Apr 25, 2015 11:16
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Audio from a Lhotse summit group up at Camp 2: http://www.alanarnette.com/blog/2015/04/25/alan-arnette-audio-dispatch-from-lhotse-for-alzheimers/ It's pretty garbled and he doesn't know much. e: Base camp looks alright: https://twitter.com/rizalzulkapli/status/591909186985857025/photo/1 emTme3 fucked around with this message at 11:22 on Apr 25, 2015 |
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Apr 25, 2015 11:17
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Meatwave posted:Everest base camp is reporting 2 dead at base camp. I don't know if they can reach camps 1 and 2 by radio or if they're still a mystery. Anyone got more info? Guess I'm not a monkey's uncle.
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Apr 25, 2015 11:20
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How badly would this gently caress with the ice fall?
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Apr 25, 2015 11:25
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Butt Wizard posted:How badly would this gently caress with the ice fall? What ice fall? https://twitter.com/danielmazur/status/591895654789566464
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Apr 25, 2015 11:29
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From my limited mountaineering experience: It's aaaall hosed up. No for real, most of Everest is probably hella unstable now. A quake of that magnitude will have shaken up the snowmasses enough so that they can expect more - smaller - avalanches to come, and any icemasses have probably been stressed to the point of fracturing. There's probably a bunch of widened crevasses, as well as new fissures. Mounting a rescue for the people on the mountain may be very difficult, and they probably won't get much or enthusiastic help from the sherpas. People on the mountain that survived will have to start making their way down quickly on their own, which might lead to more deaths. If it's as bad as it seems from the tweets (Camp 1 and 2 gone, Base camp all hosed up) this is going to get ugly  A mountain like Everest can kill you at the best of times, and this ain't that.
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Apr 25, 2015 11:32
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So if the Ice Fall is all hosed up, how do the people above it get back down?
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Apr 25, 2015 11:32
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splifyphus posted:What ice fall? Khumbu. It's a loving nightmare at the best of times, apparently.
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Apr 25, 2015 11:35
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Butt Wizard posted:Khumbu. It's a loving nightmare at the best of times, apparently. It was a bad joke - that tweet says the ice fall route has been destroyed. keevo posted:So if the Ice Fall is all hosed up, how do the people above it get back down? ...zorbs?
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Apr 25, 2015 11:39
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If its a bad as things seem there must be some crazy poo poo going on right now that would make Into Thin Air seem like a kid`s book Of course we probably won't hear much about it (cause they'll all be dead) Where there any filming expeditions on the mountain this year?
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Apr 25, 2015 11:40
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keevo posted:So if the Ice Fall is destroyed, how do the people above it get back down? Alpine style: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alpine_style ...which is going to suck for any survivors who haven't set ropes in a while. Especially during aftershocks. This is one distinguishing feature between K2 and Everest: K2's usual route pretty much requires fixed ropes. That's why the 2008 disaster took so many lives, because fixed lines were wiped out and climbers were unable to descend with just the equipment they had. For Everest, you could feasibly make it from peak to base camp with 8 pounds of rope, slowly. But now you're talking about doing that during aftershocks.
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keevo posted:So if the Ice Fall is all hosed up, how do the people above it get back down? Jump obviosly. The folks that got stuck with 20+ on the death poll for the year are feeling good as gently caress about this.
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splifyphus posted:It was a bad joke - that tweet says the ice fall route has been destroyed. Ah, couldn't get the tweet to load. This is going to get so much worse before I wake up tomorrow.
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Apr 25, 2015 11:46
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JFC. Lightning can't strike twice, right? WRONG.
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Apr 25, 2015 11:47
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Well poo poo!! Everest is really pissed. I can't imagine this year will be on. all jokes aside about death pools, good luck getting everyone out.
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Apr 25, 2015 11:49
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Crusty Nutsack posted:So the Indian team of army guys or whoever that went to pick up poo poo off the mountain are apparently safe and are now in rescue mode instead of garbage mode. Might as well. Looks like Everest has started taking out the trash itself.
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Angela Christine posted:Might as well. Looks like Everest has started taking out the trash itself. 
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Apr 25, 2015 11:55
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Yeah things aren't looking so good:quote:(Reuters) - The death toll from a powerful quake that struck Nepal on Saturday has risen to 449, most of it in the Kathmandu Valley, police said.     
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Apr 25, 2015 11:57
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keevo posted:So if the Ice Fall is all hosed up, how do the people above it get back down? Can't helicopters get past the icefall? They are bad if you are planning to summit because cheating your way up on a whirly bird reduces your time to acclimatize to the altitude before you get to the deadly part. If you are just trying to get down in one piece helicopter evacuation could be viable from the lower camps. That's assuming the local helicopters weren't damaged in the quake, that there isn't a shortage of fuel, and that they aren't busy with something more urgent than ferrying rich tourists around.
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Apr 25, 2015 12:00
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Woke up to reports of earthquakes and immediately thought of this thread. The mountain reads the forums and is not pleased with us.
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Apr 25, 2015 12:01
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I guess camps 1 and 2 are okay. The glacier shifted and the big avalanche happened between base camp and the ice fall. 
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Apr 25, 2015 12:03
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Welllllllp. This is pretty devastating news. Unlikely they'll even be willing to do much by helicopter. Camp 1 might be able to get scooped up by chopper, but they won't be able to land with unstable snows. Either the Indian team will have to reestablish the ice fall route, or they'll have to alpine back which isn't going to be within the ken of tourist climbers who rely on ladders. The ladders are likely lost as well, so.
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Apr 25, 2015 12:04
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Reuters says 8 dead on everest.
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Apr 25, 2015 12:05
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They climbed too greedily and too high... you know what they woke up in the darkness of Khumbu.
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Meatwave posted:Reuters says 8 dead on everest. 8 dead at base camp.
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Apr 25, 2015 12:08
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Potrzebie posted:8 dead at base camp. Yeah, and their source is a tourism official, so it's almost certainly larger.
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Apr 25, 2015 12:09
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Meatwave posted:I guess camps 1 and 2 are okay. The glacier shifted and the big avalanche happened between base camp and the ice fall. Wasn't this photo from last year?
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Apr 25, 2015 12:11
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Any prominent CEO's climbing this year? some stock might need shorting.
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Apr 25, 2015 12:15
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Traxus IV posted:Wasn't this photo from last year? Is it? It's from here: https://twitter.com/blairensor/status/591896765994958849 That guy's a reporter. It would be a pretty lovely move if that was an image from last year. Edit: And it was from last year. What a dick. Meatwave fucked around with this message at 12:22 on Apr 25, 2015 |
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Apr 25, 2015 12:17
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I cant believe our death pool worked and we managed to summon the demon of the Himalayas
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Apr 25, 2015 12:27
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So if Camps 1 and 2 are anything worse than 'slightly disrupted', everyone on the mountain above that are going to be in for a rough next week or two. Particularly groups containing too many people who don't actually know mountaineering. They may find that they don't have supplies necessary for the time needed to build a decent route. 
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I Greyhound posted:So if Camps 1 and 2 are anything worse than 'slightly disrupted', everyone on the mountain above that are going to be in for a rough next week or two. Particularly groups containing too many people who don't actually know mountaineering. They may find that they don't have supplies necessary for the time needed to build a decent route. Well, it's not K2, so there's a real chance of everyone making it down off the mountain ok. At least I hope there is. But how high that chance really is, nobody knows.
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Apr 25, 2015 12:42
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For a lot of the groups, the only way they normally travel from base camp to Camp 1 is following a route that a team of Sherpas spend weeks building over the icefall. If the icefall has significantly shifted, that route is gone. When you're hosed anyway, I guess they may find that they're capable of doing riskier routes, but there's still a substatial equipment need, which they may find they no longer have.
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Look on the bright side, for our book nerds this will likely lead to a swell of new books about this event like the K2 disaster. Maybe even a few specials on netflix next year!
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