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unpacked robinhood
Feb 18, 2013

by Fluffdaddy
Tons of tweets shorten earthquake into just quake, it confuses me with thoughts of pixellated avalanches and nin music

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ethanol
Jul 13, 2007



unpacked robinhood posted:

Tons of tweets shorten earthquake into just quake, it confuses me with thoughts of pixellated avalanches and nin music

I liked the drudge headline :siren:SUPER QUAKE:siren:

Cliff Racer
Mar 24, 2007

by Lowtax

Necros posted:

i believe only experienced alpinists should be allowed to climb 8,000 meter tall mountains and the people who exploit the nepalese to drag people with no experience climbingup the tallest mountain on the planet are pretty evil imho

The Sherpas are not slaves. You aren't exploiting them any more than you are a taxi driver. Even that analogy doesn't really work since top mountain guides are apparently the celebrities/sports stars of their area.

The Fattest PI
Mar 4, 2008
I heard the mountain tried to shake off some more rich white people.
P. cool mountain

Leperflesh
May 17, 2007

a bay posted:

We're not happy or making jokes, we aren't even "happy" about the white people that died. Okay maybe we are making jokes but we aren't "celebrating".

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/09/11/laughter-after-911-david-letterman-jon-stewart_n_5803212.html

David Letterman, John Stewart, Conan O'Brian, The Onion, The cast of SNL (including Rudy Giuliani and representatives of the NYC fire and police departments), South Park, John Stewart again, Mark Maron, and Gilbert Gottfried all celebrating the deaths of 9/11.

Yup.

monster on a stick
Apr 29, 2013

Cliff Racer posted:

The Sherpas are not slaves. You aren't exploiting them any more than you are a taxi driver. Even that analogy doesn't really work since top mountain guides are apparently the celebrities/sports stars of their area.

But everyone is exploited other than Rich White People (TM), you are questioning the need for the Great Marxist Revolution that will work about as well as it has before.

suck my woke dick
Oct 10, 2012

:siren:I CANNOT EJACULATE WITHOUT SEEING NATIVE AMERICANS BRUTALISED!:siren:

Put this cum-loving slave on ignore immediately!

Last Chance posted:

I wasn't really referring to you specifically. I sort of forgot about that old thread and in the wake of what's happening now, It just bums me out and feels wrong.

I can't speak for the Pepe penis avatar guy, but I'm not concern trolling and it feels like bizarre to be labeled as such just for feeling lovely and not wanting to make jokes about an ongoing tragedy.

drilldo squirt posted:

I'm disturbed you consider this funny.

you guys need to relax and watch tribute.avi get upset about everest_tribute.php on :foxnews:

Pvt Dancer posted:

moments before:



:vince:

Leperflesh
May 17, 2007

Cliff Racer posted:

The Sherpas are not slaves.

You heard it here first, folks! If someone is not literally a slave, they can't be exploited!

WHEW. That's a loving relief. We can all stop feeling guilty about how billions of people in impoverished countries are treated by Western consumers, businesses, and governments. As long as they're not actually enslaved, it's all OK!

You've really set all of our minds at ease, Cliff Racer. Thank you.

Tiny Timbs
Sep 6, 2008

Leperflesh posted:

You heard it here first, folks! If someone is not literally a slave, they can't be exploited!

WHEW. That's a loving relief. We can all stop feeling guilty about how billions of people in impoverished countries are treated by Western consumers, businesses, and governments. As long as they're not actually enslaved, it's all OK!

You've really set all of our minds at ease, Cliff Racer. Thank you.

lol what are you like irl

Cliff Racer
Mar 24, 2007

by Lowtax

Leperflesh posted:

You heard it here first, folks! If someone is not literally a slave, they can't be exploited!

WHEW. That's a loving relief. We can all stop feeling guilty about how billions of people in impoverished countries are treated by Western consumers, businesses, and governments. As long as they're not actually enslaved, it's all OK!

You've really set all of our minds at ease, Cliff Racer. Thank you.

Read the rest of my post, its only a little longer than one line long so it shouldn't be too difficult to get through.

Leperflesh
May 17, 2007

Cliff Racer posted:

Read the rest of my post, its only a little longer than one line long so it shouldn't be too difficult to get through.

I did, and it's stupid. Taxi drivers are not taking a roughly 1/10 to 1/20 chance of dying every time they go for a drive. They are also not doing this for $20 a day.

a bay
Oct 14, 2014

by Lowtax

Leperflesh posted:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/09/11/laughter-after-911-david-letterman-jon-stewart_n_5803212.html

David Letterman, John Stewart, Conan O'Brian, The Onion, The cast of SNL (including Rudy Giuliani and representatives of the NYC fire and police departments), South Park, John Stewart again, Mark Maron, and Gilbert Gottfried all celebrating the deaths of 9/11.

Yup.

I didn't think about it that way, this list of Jews has completely changed my mind.

Vogler
Feb 6, 2009

Leperflesh posted:

They are also not doing this for $20 a day.

In Nepal?

Diqnol
May 10, 2010

Leperflesh posted:

You heard it here first, folks! If someone is not literally a slave, they can't be exploited!

WHEW. That's a loving relief. We can all stop feeling guilty about how billions of people in impoverished countries are treated by Western consumers, businesses, and governments. As long as they're not actually enslaved, it's all OK!

You've really set all of our minds at ease, Cliff Racer. Thank you.

I bet you these people would be in considerably worse economic situations if there wasn't a giant tourist trap sticking out of the ground near their houses. Sherpaing isn't the only job created by tourism, simply perhaps the most profitable. People toting rich folk around the mountain know the extra risk and are taking it for the money they could not otherwise get. It's not like those rich folk made sure the area was so poor that there was no other choice.

Leperflesh
May 17, 2007

PINING 4 PORKINS posted:

lol what are you like irl

Our mutual enjoyment of Porkins would probably give us a thing to chat about over a beer IRL. I bet we would get along just fine.

monster on a stick
Apr 29, 2013

Leperflesh posted:

I did, and it's stupid. Taxi drivers are not taking a roughly 1/10 to 1/20 chance of dying every time they go for a drive. They are also not doing this for $20 a day.

http://www.bls.gov/iif/oshwc/cfar0023.pdf

quote:

Cabdrivers had the highest homicide rate—32 homicides
per 100,000—among the occupations most affected by
deadly violence. This rate is four times more than that of
police officers.

Cliff Racer
Mar 24, 2007

by Lowtax

Leperflesh posted:

I did, and it's stupid. Taxi drivers are not taking a roughly 1/10 to 1/20 chance of dying every time they go for a drive. They are also not doing this for $20 a day.

"NPR posted:

Sherpas who lead or assist expeditions to Everest earn about $5,000 during Nepal's two-month climbing season, well above the country's $430 annual per capita household income. But to earn that money, Sherpas make multiple round trips, exposing them to great risk. (By contrast, Western guides can make as much as $50,000 during the season.)
If PPP is what matters most, and thats what your ilk typically say, then the Sherpas are better off than you are.

FizFashizzle
Mar 30, 2005







Kathmandu kinda got owned, and the everest base camp was hit by an avalanche

https://news.vice.com/article/videos-show-huge-tremors-and-utter-devastation-after-earthquake-in-nepal

quote:

David Arvan @threadalist
Returning sherpas, "it's bad", won't say anything else, kept walking down.

Madcosby
Mar 4, 2003

by FactsAreUseless
Blood for the mountain

the trade is fair

but not enough

Diqnol
May 10, 2010

Oh, and hey, I know somebody over there right now, at this very base camp. They are unharmed as of now.

suck my woke dick
Oct 10, 2012

:siren:I CANNOT EJACULATE WITHOUT SEEING NATIVE AMERICANS BRUTALISED!:siren:

Put this cum-loving slave on ignore immediately!
blood for the blood yak

Leperflesh
May 17, 2007

GUISSEPPE PIZZAPIE posted:

I bet you these people would be in considerably worse economic situations if there wasn't a giant tourist trap sticking out of the ground near their houses. Sherpaing isn't the only job created by tourism, simply perhaps the most profitable. People toting rich folk around the mountain know the extra risk and are taking it for the money they could not otherwise get. It's not like those rich folk made sure the area was so poor that there was no other choice.

Precisely the same argument made in defense of every other sort of economic exploitation that occurs everywhere else.

If those people don't want to work in that dangerous factory/diamond mine/brothel/shipyard, they don't have to. The money the Westerners pump into their economy with these activities created those jobs. They could do something less profitable if they wanted! They know the extra risks involved in this stuff and they do it for the money they could otherwise get. It's not like Western businesses, diamond buyers, sex tourists, etc. made sure the area was so poor that there was no other choice.


Cliff Racer posted:

If PPP is what matters most, and thats what your ilk typically say, then the Sherpas are better off than you are.

"My ilk?" gently caress you. And no, PPP isn't what matters most. Tell me all about the excellent health care, government-regulated safety practices, earthquake safety standards in construction, lack of religious persecution, and other benefits these Sherpas are reaping, that place them in so much better standards of living than I, a white male Westerner enjoy and take for granted, because they are privileged to be paid $20 a day to haul completely inexperienced Westerners up a mountain, at incredibly high risk of death.



32/100,000 (in 1992 to 1995, in I guess America?) is not 1/20 per summit attempt. If you think driving a taxicab is anything remotely as dangerous than climbing to the top of an 8,000+ meter mountain, you're delusional. Also terrible at math. Also obviously haven't read the thread.

Last Chance
Dec 31, 2004

GUISSEPPE PIZZAPIE posted:

Oh, and hey, I know somebody over there right now, at this very base camp. They are unharmed as of now.

Im glad of this news. Peace be with them

enziarro
Sep 4, 2004

I'm not an angel - I'm a Galactic Pioneer.
Wow, it's like there's been an avalanche in this thread


So am I supposed to feel bad about participating in the death pool if I predicted a net gain of life on everest? Or should I just feel bad because I lost the hardest?


e: vvvvv It's always changing.

enziarro fucked around with this message at 20:13 on Apr 25, 2015

JFairfax
Oct 23, 2008

by FactsAreUseless
What are the chances that the height of Everest has changed?

Madcosby
Mar 4, 2003

by FactsAreUseless
the worst part about this quake is that it seems to have brought gbs 1.0 back from the grave

enziarro
Sep 4, 2004

I'm not an angel - I'm a Galactic Pioneer.
yeah

500excf type r
Mar 7, 2013

I'm as annoying as the high-pitched whine of my motorcycle, desperately compensating for the lack of substance in my life.

Ethanol posted:


Alaskan whoopie cushions lol

Cliff Racer
Mar 24, 2007

by Lowtax

Leperflesh posted:

32/100,000 (in 1992 to 1995, in I guess America?) is not 1/20 per summit attempt. If you think driving a taxicab is anything remotely as dangerous than climbing to the top of an 8,000+ meter mountain, you're delusional. Also terrible at math. Also obviously haven't read the thread.
Its 1.2 out of 100 per year. I'm not sure where your bullshit statistic came from but mine is from the NPR/Reuters article I linked above.

AllanGordon
Jan 26, 2010

by Shine
I become stronger with every death.

Soup du Journey
Mar 20, 2006

by FactsAreUseless
from downtooooowwwwwwn

A Spider Covets
May 4, 2009


is there a legit mountain sports thread on this site cause I looked in the sports forum and didn't see it

but some of yall givin me the willies

Facebook Aunt
Oct 4, 2008

wiggle wiggle




Last Chance posted:

I can't speak for the Pepe penis avatar guy, but I'm not concern trolling and it feels like bizarre to be labeled as such just for feeling lovely and not wanting to make jokes about an ongoing tragedy.

No. If you didn't want to make jokes, you just wouldn't make jokes. There are thousands of goons not making jokes right this second, many of them not even reading this thread. Coming to GBS to shake your finger at other goons being goony is concern trolling.

If you don't like this thread, there are other threads if you want to read about the earthquake:

http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3715940 -- BYOB thread about the earthquake, and about how bad GBS is. Strangely many of those dubbed "concern trolls" are posting in that thread. Hmm.

http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3715977 -- non-joke GBS thread discussing helping victims of the earthquake in general, not focused on everest.

a bay
Oct 14, 2014

by Lowtax
eversest is for boys


k2 is for men

Facebook Aunt
Oct 4, 2008

wiggle wiggle




A Spider Covets posted:

is there a legit mountain sports thread on this site cause I looked in the sports forum and didn't see it

but some of yall givin me the willies

Yes. http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3522567&pagenumber=70&perpage=40#post444513542

A Spider Covets
May 4, 2009



ty was hoping more for a general chat but this is interesting

Grim Up North
Dec 12, 2011


lol

quote:

Norwegian climber Teodor Glomnes Johansen told a newspaper in Norway that people at base camp were working on saving lives.

"All those who are unharmed organize help with the rescue efforts. Men, women and Sherpas are working side by side. The job right now is to assist the doctors in the camp here," Glomnes Johansen told Norway's VG newspaper.

Vogler
Feb 6, 2009

Leperflesh posted:

Tell me all about the excellent health care, government-regulated safety practices, earthquake safety standards in construction, lack of religious persecution

They live in Nepal though. Can't do much about that

Butt Wizard
Nov 3, 2005

It was a pornography store. I was buying pornography.
This is one of the better threads in GBS so please don't gently caress it up.

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Leperflesh
May 17, 2007

Vogler posted:

They live in Nepal though. Can't do much about that

Yeah, welp. Poor countries are poor. Can't do poo poo about that. :shrug:


Cliff Racer posted:

Its 1.2 out of 100 per year. I'm not sure where your bullshit statistic came from but mine is from the NPR/Reuters article I linked above.

Again, literally haven't read the drat thread. The death statistics for Everest are repeated in this and the previous Everest threads plenty. They're not hard to find. They're kind of the entire loving point, so if you don't actually understand just how stupidly dangerous attempting Everest is, then no wonder you don't understand why we mock the idiots who spend $50k+ to try it.

Also: violent crime in America was peaking in the early 90s, which is the only period your report covers. It's a lot lower now.

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