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Bottom Liner posted:He said it was getting reworked and the old box would be obsolete. That's completely different man. When you stop making something because you are now making something better, the previous thing becomes obsolete. That's how that word works. What else could obsolete mean in the context of a board game? Its not like the DRM in old Agricola copies will expire and go up in flames or something.
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"Reworked" and obsolete makes it sound like they're changing the game and rules up and that the old game wouldn't work with future content or something. They're introducing a better deal, but it is still the same game. That's a very different message than saying "don't buy Agricola because it's getting changed" without any further explanation.
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Apr 26, 2015 18:57
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It's true, they did change the game rules and made the old game obsolete. Uwe made Caverna. 
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Apr 26, 2015 19:01
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Speaking of Uwe, I just bought Agricola: All Creatures Big and Small at my B&N for $20, pretty happy about that. I think it's a great introductory game to Euro style stuff. They also have Dominion: Dark Ages for $24, how is that expansion? I haven't played that one. Also, my B&N has plenty of stuff left from that sale, so it doesn't hurt to check.
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Bottom Liner posted:Speaking of Uwe, I just bought Agricola: All Creatures Big and Small at my B&N for $20, pretty happy about that. I think it's a great introductory game to Euro style stuff. My "plays 50 cards in one round" super-Dominion pro fanatic co-worker swears by Dark Ages. He calls it the advanced mode-- and of course he is loving Dominion Adventures now too. Plus he says it's kind of funny to start out with what feels like a lovely kingdom of dark ages poo poo and want to try to get rid of it all to make it better. He says Dominion expansions are like Star Trek movies, only about half of them are good with the other half being not mentionable. Dark Ages seems like one of the good ones I am guessing. jeeves fucked around with this message at 19:41 on Apr 26, 2015 |
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Apr 26, 2015 19:38
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jeeves posted:He says Dominion expansions are like Star Trek movies, only about half of them are good with the other half being not mentionable. Other than Alchemy, which are the bad expansions 
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Apr 26, 2015 19:41
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Bottom Liner posted:They also have Dominion: Dark Ages for $24, how is that expansion? I haven't played that one. Also, my B&N has plenty of stuff left from that sale, so it doesn't hurt to check. It's fantastic, but also a considerable jump in complexity. Among other things you have a lot of cards that come and go making it harder to keep track of what's in your deck. jeeves posted:He says Dominion expansions are like Star Trek movies, only about half of them are good with the other half being not mentionable. Dark Ages seems like one of the good ones I am guessing. This is silly. Honestly it doesn't really even make that much sense to say an entire expansion is bad; it makes more sense to talk about good and bad cards, and all expansions have some fantastic cards. But of course we have to make purchasing decisions somehow. Alchemy is sort of an exception since it's almost all Potion cards, which some people hate categorically, but all other expansions contain a wide variety of cards and don't adhere completely to any given theme.
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Apr 26, 2015 19:50
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Jealous of anyone finding cheap dark ages. No B&N within 50 miles has one 
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Apr 26, 2015 20:07
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Dark Ages and Guilds rank barely above Alchemy for Dominion expansions and Adventures is a breath of fresh air (even if only for the Events). Hinterlands is still A++, though.
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Apr 26, 2015 21:20
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What the gently caress? Who the gently caress thinks any non-Alchemy expansions are bad?
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Broken Loose posted:What the gently caress? Who the gently caress thinks any non-Alchemy expansions are bad? Hell, who thinks Alchemy is bad? My only trepidation with Alchemy is if I'm gonna use it, it's going to be a very Alchemy heavy kingdom. 60%+
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Apr 26, 2015 22:05
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Oh, you drew 3+P turn three and I drew 2+P, I guess you just win.
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Apr 26, 2015 22:10
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Lottery of Babylon posted:Oh, you drew 3+P turn three and I drew 2+P, I guess you just win. Yeah, this is why I outright won't play with Familiar. I'd rather fight against somebody who shuffled a 5/2 split with Chapel/Witch out than deal with Turn 3 Familiar.
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Apr 26, 2015 22:22
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Herbalist doesn't have anything to apologize for and Apprentice more than makes up for the sins of the other 11 cards.
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Poopy Palpy posted:Herbalist doesn't have anything to apologize for and Apprentice more than makes up for the sins of the other 11 cards. I like Herbalist and I love Apprentice, but I never said that Alchemy was bad. Just asking how the gently caress anybody could dislike any of the non-Alchemy expansions.
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Broken Loose posted:I like Herbalist and I love Apprentice, but I never said that Alchemy was bad. Just asking how the gently caress anybody could dislike any of the non-Alchemy expansions. Toshimo is curmudgeonliness made manifest in the form of a white-mage bee.
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Poopy Palpy posted:Herbalist doesn't have anything to apologize for and Apprentice more than makes up for the sins of the other 11 cards. Herbalist is nice and Apprentice is great but I think $30 MSRP is a bit steep for two cards. Vineyards is a nice card too if you pretend its cost reads "4".
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Apr 26, 2015 22:41
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Guilds is mostly bad cards and one really awful card that magnifies deficiencies in non-mirrored hands. Dark Ages has Knights (bleh) and Shelters (which I'd just as soon leave in the box forever) . I'd happily drop the bottom 1/3rd of DA and take like the 3 good cards in Guilds and make a decent expansions instead of 2 subpar ones.
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you're gonna have to elaborate. if you're going to troll, you'll need to put more effort into it than "the cards suck, peace out guys!"
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Apr 26, 2015 23:56
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And you're complaining about 2 cards in Dark Ages. Blacklist those two in your randomizer program of choice and keep the remaining 30+
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jivjov posted:And you're complaining about 2 cards in Dark Ages. Blacklist those two in your randomizer program of choice and keep the remaining 30+ You don't need to blacklist Shelters, their use is dictated by a random draw in the same way as Platinum/Colony are when using Prosperity. If you don't want to use them, don't make the draw.
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Countblanc posted:Play Can't Stop!, it's the only dice game that matters. I play Can't Stop against myself on my phone. The implementation is buggy, but even when it crashes I can't stay mad because the android message that pops up tells me "Unfortunately, Can't Stop has stopped."
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Apr 27, 2015 00:31
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Lottery of Babylon posted:Vineyards is a nice card too if you pretend its cost reads "4". This would probably be okay but Vineyards doesn't need the help; it's already probably the strongest Kingdom Victory card in the game.
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McNerd posted:This would probably be okay but Vineyards doesn't need the help; it's already probably the strongest Kingdom Victory card in the game. The cost change isn't intended as a buff, it's intended as a way to put it in the game at all without using the terrible Potion mechanic. (If I recall correctly, DXV mentioned at one point that Vineyards and Gardens originally had their costs reversed, with Vineyards in the base game.)
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The best part of Dominion is that there are 236 different cards Don't like a few? you've still got quadrillions of possible boards
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Lottery of Babylon posted:The cost change isn't intended as a buff, it's intended as a way to put it in the game at all without using the terrible Potion mechanic. (If I recall correctly, DXV mentioned at one point that Vineyards and Gardens originally had their costs reversed, with Vineyards in the base game.) But what exactly is your problem with Potion? There are two major complaints I've heard, and neither of them are issues for Vineyard.
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Sirlin Games products are actually in stock with one of our distributors  Guess I'm ordering Round 1 of Yomi at a discount then 
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Can I get some goon-pinions on Power Grid? I've been eyeing it on aesthetic alone, and I'm terrible at gleaning gameplay information off of wikipedia summaries.
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jivjov posted:Can I get some goon-pinions on Power Grid? I've been eyeing it on aesthetic alone, and I'm terrible at gleaning gameplay information off of wikipedia summaries. I love it. It's very dry and very mathy and not very thematic, but it does some really cool things with turn order. Each player operates their own power company and you use your small amount of funds to start carving out some territory on the map. You compete with the other players to bid on better power plants and to buy a finite number of increasingly expensive resources to fire those plants and power your network, which gets you paid.. As you expand your network, you make more and more money, but the power plants and the resources also get more expensive until someone's network hits the specific size and then whoever delivers power to the greatest number of cities is the winner. The base game comes with a double-sided board, each with a different map. Each expansion is another double-sided board with two different maps and some extra rules. Most of them are great.
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Any opinions on Panamax? I'm a sucker for economic games and it looks pretty good!
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Some Numbers posted:I love it. It's very dry and very mathy and not very thematic, but it does some really cool things with turn order. Should I pick up Power Grid or Power Grid Deluxe? According to some Amazon reviewers, the expansions aren't compatible with Deluxe?
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jivjov posted:Should I pick up Power Grid or Power Grid Deluxe? According to some Amazon reviewers, the expansions aren't compatible with Deluxe? Yeah, all the expansions came out before Deluxe. Deluxe is really Power Grid v2.0; I haven't played it, but I know that they changed almost everything. The power plants are different, the resources are different, even some of the rules are different. I think it's overall a very similar game, but I can't advise you to get it, because I'm not sure how similar they are.
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Some Numbers posted:Yeah, all the expansions came out before Deluxe. Deluxe is really Power Grid v2.0; I haven't played it, but I know that they changed almost everything. The power plants are different, the resources are different, even some of the rules are different. Sounds like I'll go with 1.0 then; I like the look of all the expansions.
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Yeah, I totally meant to say that the expansions are completely incompatible with Deluxe.
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jivjov posted:Can I get some goon-pinions on Power Grid? I've been eyeing it on aesthetic alone, and I'm terrible at gleaning gameplay information off of wikipedia summaries. I hate it because I find it terribly AP-inducing, but if you don't have a compulsion to solve solvable math problems you'll probably enjoy it like everyone else.
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Toshimo posted:Dark Ages and Guilds rank barely above Alchemy for Dominion expansions 
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Played Snowdonia tonight. The turn I bought my train it got stolen by the white man or whatever the white cubes are supposed to be. I was mad and I lost by a lot. A+ would play again. Anyone have much experience with this game? The guy I was playing with had like all the expansions but we only played the base game. Does it really make the game that much different or is it just sort of a reskinned same experience?Bottom Liner posted:He said it was getting reworked and the old box would be obsolete. That's completely different man. Please cite your sources because what I read didn't say that. They said they were redoing some of the cards and including expansions. Buying an upgraded set of cards is a lot cheaper than buying a whole new board game (there are a lot of pieces in there and cardboard).
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jivjov posted:Can I get some goon-pinions on Power Grid? I've been eyeing it on aesthetic alone, and I'm terrible at gleaning gameplay information off of wikipedia summaries. It's good for it's weight but I think there are much better economic games out there. The route building is generally more interesting in 18xx games and I think the auctions in Chicago Express are more interesting. Unfortunately no other good games seem to have a similar resource market. I'd recommend playing with the house rule where the top of the plant deck is always turned face up so that someone doesn't get a lucky plant and run away with the game.
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4outof5 posted:Amazon and/or coolstuffinc but you might want to hold off on agricola it's getting a rework and current versions will be obsolete soon. That's what I was talking about.
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Bottom Liner posted:That's what I was talking about. I quoted that post and said it was inaccurate unless there is new info I haven't been told about.
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