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This is probably my favorite picture from that whole event "So, uh, actual non-Thunderchicken maintainers, how in the hell do you put real bombs on this thing?"
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Why is it always A320s having all the fun? http://www.airlive.net/2015/04/breaking-we-got-reports-of-plane-with.html?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter&m=1 
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Apr 25, 2015 14:40
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 Well that’s one way to fly a plane.
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I'm guessing from the caption this was circa 1988? On a semi-related note, does anyone know, are the serials of Thunderbirds aircraft actually painted anywhere externally? e: And on an also-related note, as I understand it, the aircraft used by the PLAAF's demo team are specially-built for that purpose, and can't as far as I know, actually be armed up like this. Which is a bizarre, but frankly also quite Communist Chinese idea.
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dietcokefiend posted:Why is it always A320s having all the fun? Blimey that was a bit sketchy.
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Uncontained engine failure that damaged right main gear?
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hobbesmaster posted:Uncontained engine failure that damaged right main gear? I don't think it's that. The A320's engine is a long ways ahead of that section. If it was a turbine disk that failed, most of the damage would be to the leading edge of the wing. In this case, it sounds like they had some sort of hard landing, went around and tried again. If there was some sort of failure in the main landing gear the damage would manifest itself in the general area of the damage in that photo.
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MrChips posted:I don't think it's that. The A320's engine is a long ways ahead of that section. If it was a turbine disk that failed, most of the damage would be to the leading edge of the wing. So it may not have been "engine on fire" but "hydraulic system ruptured with burning hydraulic fluid spraying into the exhaust stream" on the videos?
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Plastic_Gargoyle posted:e: And on an also-related note, as I understand it, the aircraft used by the PLAAF's demo team are specially-built for that purpose, and can't as far as I know, actually be armed up like this. Which is a bizarre, but frankly also quite Communist Chinese idea. Why would it be bizzare? They needed airframes for aerial display, and probably just marked a few airframes on the production line for it- why bother with all the weapons hardware? AFAIK the Red Arrows fly purpose built non combat capable specially uprated engine Hawks, and I imagine a bunch of other nations have similar arrangements
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Yeah I imagine the Thunderbirds (do the Blue Angels do it too?) only run combat-capable aircraft to stave off the cries of "ARE TAXPAYER DOLLARS!!" from people who hate fun.
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DesperateDan posted:Why would it be bizzare? They needed airframes for aerial display, and probably just marked a few airframes on the production line for it- why bother with all the weapons hardware? AFAIK the Red Arrows fly purpose built non combat capable specially uprated engine Hawks, and I imagine a bunch of other nations have similar arrangements Besides, all the pictures of 'August 1st's J-10s that I can find look like they still have weapon hardpoints to me. e: this one even seems to still have PL-9s (edit2: fins aren't right for a pl-12, looks like a pl-9 or pl-10) on the rails: 
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Apr 25, 2015 21:21
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Man the Pickle Suit looks like it was a hella comfortable uniform.
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The Blues will probably be the last USN unit still flying the F/A-18C...there are only six squadrons left, vs 30 or so for the Super Hornet. It's been the Navy's C-list fighter for about 2 decades already, so it doesn't really matter if they can fight or not. They'll be the last to get any combat upgrades (ie, radar), if they ever receive them at all. But yeah, they can be modified back to combat standard (they basically have the same modifications as the T-birds).
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babyeatingpsychopath posted:So it may not have been "engine on fire" but "hydraulic system ruptured with burning hydraulic fluid spraying into the exhaust stream" on the videos? Oh there was engine damage; apparently the aircraft rolled hard right about 100 feet AGL and touched down hard, damaging the landing gear and engine on the right side. The crew went around on one engine and landed, at which time the right main gear collapsed.
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Cocoa Crispies posted:
thanks, this was a good read. And I was noticing it specifically with United numbers making no sense - good to know they're the worst offender (or ... whatever) so I wasn't just making it all up.
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The Chanute Air Museum in Rantoul, Il is closing it's doors for good in December. Their collection has been steadily cannibalized over the last 20 years to keep the lights on, and apparently not quite enough. It is a really weird empty museum, in a ghost town. If you are in the middle of Illinois with nothing else to do (and you do have nothing else to do, it is Central Illinois, right?) it is worth a look, and very possibly your best bet to get to third base in a Minuteman training silo, if that was an ambition. No word on what is happening to the collection, but I'd be willing to go halvsies on the F-105, if the price is right. http://www.aeromuseum.org/index.php/2013-02-06-20-03-26/aircraft Expect the B-58 and XB-47 to have no trouble finding good homes, but some of the other big/unnotable stuff seems like it would be hard to shift. Slo-Tek fucked around with this message at 23:47 on Apr 25, 2015 |
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Slo-Tek posted:The Chanute Air Museum in Rantoul, Il is closing it's doors for good in December. All the ones I checked say " This aircraft is on loan to Octave Chanute Aerospace Museum from the National Museum of the United States Airforce.", so I assume the Air Force Museum will take them back?
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I see a decent number of aircraft that should have no trouble finding homes, others that shouldn't but will anyway, and others that really should be put airborne again. Getting a Warning Star on the airshow circuit wouldn't be out of the realm of financial possibility. I'm down to go halfsies with someone on the Cargomaster or Stratofreighter as a camper. Or, hell, even the Albatross. I need a boat.
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Took a lovely photo of an awesome engine today - I'm sure everyone can guess what it is.
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blk posted:Took a lovely photo of an awesome engine today - I'm sure everyone can guess what it is. SR-71? Also the X47B refueled on it's own a few days ago. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rIRwsOG_AYQ
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NightGyr posted:All the ones I checked say " This aircraft is on loan to Octave Chanute Aerospace Museum from the National Museum of the United States Airforce.", so I assume the Air Force Museum will take them back? Seems like it would make the most sense for the AF Museum foundation to just take over the rent and security, and abandon-in-place. Hangar space in Rantoul is going to be cheaper than hangar space pretty much anywhere else in the world. Can't imagine they'd want to spend the money to cart anything but the best bits to clutter up the storage in Dayton or Silver Spring. Though the Smithsonian doesn't have a Hustler. Wonder if they could squeeze one in to U-H.
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I remember going to Udvar-Hazy when it opened. I came back almost exactly 10 years later and was stunned how much more stuff there was.
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I moved from Virginia before Udvar Hazy opened.  I remember before that reading the shuttle Enterprise was in a hangar in Dulles. I wanted to sneak out of one of those busses with the smokestacks and find it 
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MrYenko posted:The CAF needs an airworthy C-130, imo. This CAF certainly would take one 
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They should ship some of those to Yankee Air Museum. We could use a Starfighter and a Thunderchief.
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CroatianAlzheimers posted:They should ship some of those to Yankee Air Museum. We could use a Starfighter and a Thunderchief. Hey, we used to have a Thud! It just, you know, melted. The Starfighter or Thud would be neat to have, though. Either one would go great along with the new plane we're getting from the AF. Starts with a Delta, ends with a Dart.
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DesperateDan posted:AFAIK the Red Arrows fly purpose built non combat capable specially uprated engine Hawks
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Acebuckeye13 posted:Hey, we used to have a Thud! It just, you know, melted. Oh man, no way! I hadn't heard we were getting a Dart! That's pretty rad. Did you see that the Saber-D is back from the rehab center? Just needs a shiny new paint job. And, yeah. I remember the old Thud. *pours one out for the old hangar*
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As a child I had a couple of die cast metal fighter jets (as did all kids my age, I lived in Washington State and my dad worked for Boeing..), they were about 3-4" long I think. What "scale" are these? 1/72 scale seems to be too big, are they about 1/114 scale? That seems to be the next size "down" from what I can tell. I found this 1:100 scale X-47B which looks like a close competitor http://www.flyingmule.com/products/IT-48165 Also looking for a baseball sized Dragon cargo spaceflight capsule, I have not been able to find one of those. Googling "dragon die cast model" does not turn up any... good search results, ahem,  I did find the X-37B from "dragon models" however http://www.flyingmule.com/products/DM-50377
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CroatianAlzheimers posted:Oh man, no way! I hadn't heard we were getting a Dart! That's pretty rad. Did you see that the Saber-D is back from the rehab center? Just needs a shiny new paint job. And, yeah. I remember the old Thud. *pours one out for the old hangar* The new building's starting to resemble the old hanger with all the stuff we're sticking in there. The 106 is gonna be a tight fit, to say the least, especially since they're keeping the -86L and -84F indoors permanently now that they've started getting their new paint schemes. It'll definitely be interesting once we get over to the new building, since they're planning on fitting the -52 in there and that's gonna be an interesting job, to say the least. Also, have some pictures of the ol' Sabre in transit:   Ah, the good ol' days. 
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Acebuckeye13 posted:The new building's starting to resemble the old hanger with all the stuff we're sticking in there. The 106 is gonna be a tight fit, to say the least, especially since they're keeping the -86L and -84F indoors permanently now that they've started getting their new paint schemes. It'll definitely be interesting once we get over to the new building, since they're planning on fitting the -52 in there and that's gonna be an interesting job, to say the least. So, wait. Are you a volunteer over there? I'm a member, and I bring my daughters in to touch airplanes every so often. I'd like to volunteer, but I don't really have the time to really dedicate to it. I haven't been out there (I'm in Detroit) in about a month. And, yeah. It's getting real tight in there. I wish the Air Force wasn't the no-fun club and allowed people to sit in the Phantom like you can (can you still?) sit in the Thunderflash and Saber-D. We did go up to Selfridge a couple weeks ago, though. The Scorpion they have there is looking real good with its new paint job.
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Hadlock posted:As a child I had a couple of die cast metal fighter jets (as did all kids my age, I lived in Washington State and my dad worked for Boeing..), they were about 3-4" long I think. What "scale" are these? 1/72 scale seems to be too big, are they about 1/114 scale? That seems to be the next size "down" from what I can tell. If this does not produce results, try asking the scale model thread.
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CroatianAlzheimers posted:So, wait. Are you a volunteer over there? I'm a member, and I bring my daughters in to touch airplanes every so often. I'd like to volunteer, but I don't really have the time to really dedicate to it. Yeah, I've been a docent for about two years (Amongst other things). I only live 15 minutes away, so I'm there multiple days a week, and it's pretty entertaining to say the least. Unfortunately, you can't sit in either the 'Streak or the Sabre right now, since they're both being painted and they'll probably have the cockpits sealed up for much of that process. I do believe they are planning to open them up after they're finished getting painted, though! I need to get out to Selfridge, since I've never been there. Air Zoo too, since it's been a looooooong time since I was there last and I haven't even been to their new building yet. I just graduated from college, though, so I should have plenty of time before I head out to DC for grad school.
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Oh, nice. Next time you see a bearded dad in a black Spirit of Detroit hat with either a five year old or a two and five year old in tow, come over and ask if I've got stairs in my house. We usually come in on Fridays and Saturdays now. Yeah, I figured they wouldn't have them opened while they're being restored, but I'm glad to hear they will be eventually. The interactive nature of YAM's exhibits is one of the museum's biggest selling points. I mean, the tsarinas love the KC-135 flight deck, and have flown a whole lot of sorties in it bringing gas to pilots. Selfridge is really, really rad. They have a real good variety of airframes, some cool interactive stuff inside (ATC console, Viper and Corsair training cockpits, Link trainer, quarter-fed moving engine cutaway, etc), and a C-130A and a P3 outside in the airpark that are powered, lit, and manned with docents. Also, it's four bucks to get in, kind of a steal. Oldest tsarina and I hit the Air Zoo last month for her birthday. That new building is suuuuuuuuuuuuuuper nice, and the old building is now just stuffed with a bunch of disorganized aeronautical ephemera. It's like a cross between a good air museum and a hoarder's basement in there.
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Man I wish someone would refit a 102 or a 106 so they're flyable. They're my favorite Cold War fighters, lovely worthless Falcon missiles and all.
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ALL-PRO SEXMAN posted:Man I wish someone would refit a 102 or a 106 so they're flyable. They're my favorite Cold War fighters, lovely worthless Falcon missiles and all. I'm with you, man. I have a real soft spot for the entire weird, unloved, largely worthless Century Series. I mean, hell, the Starfighter is my favorite fighter plane of all time, and the first really real grown up airplane model I ever built was a 1/48 Thunderchief. I did see a flying Super Saber once at Thunder Over Michigan, it was glorious.
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