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homeowner 39 22.41%
renter 69 39.66%
stupid peace of poo poo 66 37.93%
Total: 174 votes
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WarpedNaba
Feb 8, 2012

Being social makes me swell!

BARONS CYBER SKULL posted:

I hope someone casually knifes him in the throat.

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dusty
Nov 30, 2004

WarpedNaba posted:

What are Campbell's political opinions, anyway? I never paid attention to the man.

Former Alliance voter - a decade ago he admitted voting for them in 2002 iirc.

exmarx
Feb 18, 2012


The experience over the years
of nothing getting better
only worse.

SurreptitiousMuffin
Mar 21, 2010
Please tell me there is a link to that video somewhere.

Red_Museum
Apr 17, 2011

Shredded Hen
I watched it here

https://www.facebook.com/SoHoChannel/videos/818195264935293/

WarpedNaba
Feb 8, 2012

Being social makes me swell!
I can't believe it. After scandals and corruption and embezzlement and mismanagement and generally being an utter laughing stock overseas, it's ponytail pulling that sinks the PM in the public's eye.

It's like Al Capone and tax evasion, Christ.

SurreptitiousMuffin
Mar 21, 2010
This won't sink the Brand Key juggernaut, but it's nice to see a decent hole in the hull anyway.

klen dool
May 7, 2007

Okay well me being wrong in some limited situations doesn't change my overall point.

WarpedNaba posted:

I can't believe it. After scandals and corruption and embezzlement and mismanagement and generally being an utter laughing stock overseas, it's ponytail pulling that sinks the PM in the public's eye.

It's like Al Capone and tax evasion, Christ.

Sexual harassment and assault are much worse than all those other things.

Moongrave
Jun 19, 2004

Finally Living Rent Free

klen dool posted:

Sexual harassment and assault are much worse than all those other things.

I believe you mean "horsing around"

Laverna
Mar 21, 2013


We're famous!

Wandle Cax
Dec 15, 2006
I enjoyed that video. Next time I have a beer with John there'll be a bit of banter for sure

Somfin
Oct 25, 2010

In my🦚 experience🛠️ the big things🌑 don't teach you anything🤷‍♀️.

Nap Ghost

Wandle Cax posted:

I enjoyed that video. Next time I have a beer with John there'll be a bit of banter for sure

"Tugging a ponytail" - NZ idiom, emerged in early 2015, meaning to relax and have a beer with the head of state.

klen dool
May 7, 2007

Okay well me being wrong in some limited situations doesn't change my overall point.

BARONS CYBER SKULL posted:

I believe you mean "horsing around"

Oh right of course. Just some innocent horse play. Its not like she was wearing pig tails, now that would be gross! Pigs are gross. Horses and ponys, noble and innocent. Pigs wallow in their own poo poo, pulling pig tails is disgusting. Now animals of the equine persuasion - brave, noble fellas always up for some light hearted play!

Slavvy
Dec 11, 2012

WarpedNaba posted:

I hope someone casually knifes him in the throat.

This is the kind of blasé "someone else will do it for me" attitude that's ruining this country. Stop expecting someone else to stab him in the throat and just do it yourself you dole bludger.

Teddybear
May 16, 2009

Look! A teddybear doll!
It's soooo cute!


Hey New Zealand I just popped in to say thanks for having a neat electoral system. MMP is really cool from the perspective of an outside observer although I dunno how you all like it from the inside.

Moongrave
Jun 19, 2004

Finally Living Rent Free

Teddybear posted:

Hey New Zealand I just popped in to say thanks for having a neat electoral system. MMP is really cool from the perspective of an outside observer although I dunno how you all like it from the inside.

We have a hair-molester for a prime minister.

Teddybear
May 16, 2009

Look! A teddybear doll!
It's soooo cute!


BARONS CYBER SKULL posted:

We have a hair-molester for a prime minister.

Well he wasn't elected off the list, right?

Slavvy
Dec 11, 2012

It's a good system populated by scummy people and propped up by an indifferent voter base, easily wowed by a charmingly awkward smile and hair tug.

bobbilljim
May 29, 2013

this christmas feels like the very first christmas to me
:shittydog::shittydog::shittydog:

Teddybear posted:

Hey New Zealand I just popped in to say thanks for having a neat electoral system. MMP is really cool from the perspective of an outside observer although I dunno how you all like it from the inside.

Like a lot of things, it's a good idea but idiot voters gently caress it up.

Also, electorates are unnecessary. (As far as I know anyway. I mean some of our most prominent MPs have never lived in their electorate.)

SurreptitiousMuffin
Mar 21, 2010
MMP is an excellent political system underserved by a bunch of lovely parties.

Butt Wizard
Nov 3, 2005

It was a pornography store. I was buying pornography.

bobbilljim posted:

Also, electorates are unnecessary. (As far as I know anyway. I mean some of our most prominent MPs have never lived in their electorate.)

Spoken like someone who has never needed advocacy assistance with a government agency before. More representation at local levels is the solution, not the problem.

E: I didn't mean for this to sound so dickish, but a letter from an MP can really be the difference between something getting done or them feeling like they're being ignored. They field questions from everything relating to access to healthcare to state housing, and it can be a hell of a lot easier for someone to get answers from an MP's office than by waiting for hours on end on hold for a call centre staff member to tell them the same thing they've heard over and over again.

Butt Wizard fucked around with this message at 00:07 on Apr 28, 2015

bobbilljim
May 29, 2013

this christmas feels like the very first christmas to me
:shittydog::shittydog::shittydog:
Give me an example? I really don't know what you mean, probably because I am an idiot voter.

Ghostlight
Sep 25, 2009

maybe for one second you can pause; try to step into another person's perspective, and understand that a watermelon is cursing me



Teddybear posted:

Hey New Zealand I just popped in to say thanks for having a neat electoral system. MMP is really cool from the perspective of an outside observer although I dunno how you all like it from the inside.
MMP is an amazing system only hampered by the gerrymandering that its current minimum seat/vote rules allows.

truther
Oct 22, 2008

ASK ME ABOUT THE BEARS

bobbilljim posted:

Give me an example? I really don't know what you mean, probably because I am an idiot voter.
Not sure if right but Dotcom getting residency/housing? :downs:
Banks got that poo poo fast-tracked iirc.

Butt Wizard
Nov 3, 2005

It was a pornography store. I was buying pornography.

bobbilljim posted:

Give me an example? I really don't know what you mean, probably because I am an idiot voter.

The best example I can think of is that HNZ kept telling a client that she was on the priority housing list but she hadn't been able to get any accommodation for a while. It turned out, after some enquiries from a local MP, that there's multiple priority lists within the HNZ 'priority list' itself and she was actually a much lower priority than she'd been led to believe. It's not the kind of thing that HNZ would probably ever tell her past "you're on the priority list", but it's the kind of detailed explanation that an enquiry from an MP's office would find much easier to get than a client would.

I'm fairly sure local MPs do a lot of immigration enquiries (which basically end up being advocacy because it's a minefield at the best of times) and people take letters from them more seriously than clients. If the only thing that stops people from getting dicked around by government departments is the existence of an electoral office that they can approach then it's a pretty small price to pay for an extra safety valve for people.

bobbilljim
May 29, 2013

this christmas feels like the very first christmas to me
:shittydog::shittydog::shittydog:
Alright thanks people. I guess in a perfect world we wouldn't need them.. or a lot of other things :hurr:

In that case we should have stv for electorates, which would likely just confuse people more.

ledge
Jun 10, 2003

Also people in labour electorates in Christchurch have had their MP advocating for them around EQC issues.

People in Brownlee or Amy Adams electorates, not so much.

Ghostlight
Sep 25, 2009

maybe for one second you can pause; try to step into another person's perspective, and understand that a watermelon is cursing me



It's also been a number of years, but at the time our local MP was key in helping my mum keep pressure on the government to negotiate my dad out of effectively being held for ransom overseas.

Slavvy
Dec 11, 2012

Butt Wizard posted:

The best example I can think of is that HNZ kept telling a client that she was on the priority housing list but she hadn't been able to get any accommodation for a while. It turned out, after some enquiries from a local MP, that there's multiple priority lists within the HNZ 'priority list' itself and she was actually a much lower priority than she'd been led to believe. It's not the kind of thing that HNZ would probably ever tell her past "you're on the priority list", but it's the kind of detailed explanation that an enquiry from an MP's office would find much easier to get than a client would.

I'm fairly sure local MPs do a lot of immigration enquiries (which basically end up being advocacy because it's a minefield at the best of times) and people take letters from them more seriously than clients. If the only thing that stops people from getting dicked around by government departments is the existence of an electoral office that they can approach then it's a pretty small price to pay for an extra safety valve for people.

Does this mean I could write to my MP and have some hope of convincing the government that I'm not actually a terrorist so they give me a citizenship seeing as I've lived here since I was seven?

I live in Henderson if it matters.

klen dool
May 7, 2007

Okay well me being wrong in some limited situations doesn't change my overall point.

Ghostlight posted:

It's also been a number of years, but at the time our local MP was key in helping my mum keep pressure on the government to negotiate my dad out of effectively being held for ransom overseas.

Can you (or do you want to) talk about it? Sounds tantalising, like the swish of a tightly bundled rope of hair

Binkenstein
Jan 18, 2010

ledge posted:

Also people in labour electorates in Christchurch have had their MP advocating for them around EQC issues.

People in Brownlee or Amy Adams electorates, not so much.

Funnily enough, Brownlee & Adams are the MP's for some of the least affected suburbs, so I guess their electorates don't care so much about EQC issues.

Ghostlight
Sep 25, 2009

maybe for one second you can pause; try to step into another person's perspective, and understand that a watermelon is cursing me



klen dool posted:

Can you (or do you want to) talk about it? Sounds tantalising, like the swish of a tightly bundled rope of hair
It probably wouldn't dox me any more than any other information already out there, so sure.

My family spent a number of years in Riyadh as my father was deployed there by the American company he was working for. When he was done my parents decided to return to New Zealand rather than the States, and as we were all boarding the plane he was pulled aside, his passport taken, and he was told he couldn't leave because he was a spy. The rest of us left on that plane, as he was worried about what could happen if we stayed, and once back in New Zealand my mother had to work with a government that really didn't care to rock the boat in regard to demanding its Middle Eastern ally-by-way-of-all-holy-America return a citizen that was being held for national security reasons that mysteriously could all be cleared up if his company made a couple of million dollars worth of concessions/promises that it didn't feel inclined to make for a now ex-employee. It was about a year and a half of prodding the MFA to please ask the Saudi government for their citizen back before I guess the political hassle of holding him started outweighing the imagined payoff and they let him get on a plane.

klen dool
May 7, 2007

Okay well me being wrong in some limited situations doesn't change my overall point.

Ghostlight posted:

It probably wouldn't dox me any more than any other information already out there, so sure.

My family spent a number of years in Riyadh as my father was deployed there by the American company he was working for. When he was done my parents decided to return to New Zealand rather than the States, and as we were all boarding the plane he was pulled aside, his passport taken, and he was told he couldn't leave because he was a spy. The rest of us left on that plane, as he was worried about what could happen if we stayed, and once back in New Zealand my mother had to work with a government that really didn't care to rock the boat in regard to demanding its Middle Eastern ally-by-way-of-all-holy-America return a citizen that was being held for national security reasons that mysteriously could all be cleared up if his company made a couple of million dollars worth of concessions/promises that it didn't feel inclined to make for a now ex-employee. It was about a year and a half of prodding the MFA to please ask the Saudi government for their citizen back before I guess the political hassle of holding him started outweighing the imagined payoff and they let him get on a plane.

Wow that's crazy. You (and your family) must have been terrified.

newtestleper
Oct 30, 2003

1. Was he a spy?
2. Why was he spying?

Kathleen
Feb 26, 2013

Grimey Drawer

newtestleper posted:

1. Was he a spy?
2. Why was he spying?

sounds like good old fashioned middle eastern corruption to me

exmarx
Feb 18, 2012


The experience over the years
of nothing getting better
only worse.
You know Key's shouty "get some guts!" speech? just append except Saudi Arabia to every sentence.


I expected this to have died back somewhat by now

Ghostlight
Sep 25, 2009

maybe for one second you can pause; try to step into another person's perspective, and understand that a watermelon is cursing me



Saudi Arabia is the giant decaying elephant carcass ruining the carpet that politicians will get to discussing when they finish their incredibly large meal of elephant steaks.

WarpedNaba
Feb 8, 2012

Being social makes me swell!

Slavvy posted:

This is the kind of blasé "someone else will do it for me" attitude that's ruining this country. Stop expecting someone else to stab him in the throat and just do it yourself you dole bludger.

Gotta find a publisher for the eventual book deal first, geeze. It's like you never committed an act of high good through gratuitous violence before!

exmarx
Feb 18, 2012


The experience over the years
of nothing getting better
only worse.
Dubai's Gulf News



hadn't bothered to tell NZ media

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Moongrave
Jun 19, 2004

Finally Living Rent Free

Exclamation Marx posted:

Dubai's Gulf News



hadn't bothered to tell NZ media

I assume when he says "we" he means himself and the Americans who tell him what he should do and when.

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