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The spirit of the Honduran Constitution has never been placing checks on presidential power, it's always been placing check on presidential power that might be held by... y'know... populists... so I don't see what's got you lefturds' panties in a bunch, really 
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Badger of Basra posted:Looks like that whole coup business in Honduras was a big mistake. Whoops! oh my god
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*oust president over reforms* *do the loving reforms yourself* latinamericanpolitics.txt The worst part of political amnesia is that it loving works every time.
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Im sure the American press that came out in support of the coup for protecting the Honduran constitution will come out and denounce this.
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Apr 25, 2015 22:12
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Berke Negri posted:Im sure the American press that came out in support of the coup for protecting the Honduran constitution will come out and denounce this. "Sourpuss Honduran opposition too bitter to approve of the reforms they themselves planned when they were in power"
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Apr 25, 2015 22:23
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Honduras is hosed. I had to meet clients in San Pedro Sula just over a year ago, and spent a couple of nights there. Scary place. Maras and death squads who'll shoot you for having tattoos.
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TheImmigrant posted:Honduras is hosed. I had to meet clients in San Pedro Sula just over a year ago, and spent a couple of nights there. Scary place. Maras and death squads who'll shoot you for having tattoos. I've been to El Salvador a few years ago. Downtown San Salvador was a huge black market straight out of Hollywood (black guys with AKs, stolen goods, places where you can find literally anything). Not to mention the constant Mara threat! I've never seen so many armed people in my entire life.
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Apr 26, 2015 13:08
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Badger of Basra posted:Looks like that whole coup business in Honduras was a big mistake. Whoops! Jesus loving christ... 
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Badger of Basra posted:Looks like that whole coup business in Honduras was a big mistake. Whoops! The Vile Leftist Legions Took Our Democracy once, well, never again!
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Apr 27, 2015 20:17
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V. Illych L. posted:translate? Fantino is an Argentinean journalist that interviews political figures on TV. Yesterday we had elections at the capital (Buenos Aires), and some days ago the "veda" started (it's a short time period before election day in which there can't be any kind of political propaganda in the media). The tweet comes from a politician which i don't really know, pleading for Fantino to invite her to an interview before the "veda" starts.
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Apr 27, 2015 22:14
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Yggdrassil posted:Fantino is an Argentinean journalist that interviews political figures on TV. Yesterday we had elections at the capital (Buenos Aires), and some days ago the "veda" started (it's a short time period before election day in which there can't be any kind of political propaganda in the media). oh. that's really pathetic
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Apr 27, 2015 22:16
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Is this Fantino guy Alejandro Fantino? He interviews politicians now?
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Apr 27, 2015 22:22
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Polidoro posted:Is this Fantino guy Alejandro Fantino? He interviews politicians now? Exactly. He has been interviewing politicians during these last years. He sucks at it, but he does get to interview some interesting people, like Martin Lousteau.
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Apr 27, 2015 22:25
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Yggdrassil posted:Exactly. He has been interviewing politicians during these last years. He sucks at it, but he does get to interview some interesting people, like Martin Lousteau. Speaking of Martin Lousteau, can someone explain to me what's going on with ECO/UNEN/FAP/CC? It seems like every month Carrió is doing something crazy.
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Badger of Basra posted:Speaking of Martin Lousteau, can someone explain to me what's going on with ECO/UNEN/FAP/CC? It seems like every month Carrió is doing something crazy. Carrió is a weird creature indeed. On the one hand, she has been denouncing a myriad of irregularities during the current government, and she herself is pretty much pristine as far as corruption cases go. On the other hand, she as a person is extremely visceral, she lacks charisma and has a terrible history of failing one election after the other. In my personal opinion, desperation has lead her to siding with Mauricio Macri (from the PRO party), who represents many of the things she was actually against. She was with Lousteau in UNEN before, but had a fight with other leaders from the UNEN coalition. The most known anecdote was one in which she left in the middle of a speech given by one of her peers, Pino Solanas. This ended up in the dissolution of the original UNEN.
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Yggdrassil posted:Carrió is a weird creature indeed. On the one hand, she has been denouncing a myriad of irregularities during the current government, and she herself is pretty much pristine as far as corruption cases go. On the other hand, she as a person is extremely visceral, she lacks charisma and has a terrible history of failing one election after the other. In my personal opinion, desperation has lead her to siding with Mauricio Macri (from the PRO party), who represents many of the things she was actually against. So are Binner and Solanas still working together, or did the whole thing fall apart? I can't imagine either working with Macri.
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Badger of Basra posted:So are Binner and Solanas still working together, or did the whole thing fall apart? I can't imagine either working with Macri. UNEN still exists, Binner and Solanas are still working together, and for them to work with Macri would be political suicide. Macri is pretty much a populist-conservative, a 21st century Carlos Menem. Binner, and even more Solanas, are completely opposed to that political current.
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Yggdrassil posted:Exactly. He has been interviewing politicians during these last years. He sucks at it, but he does get to interview some interesting people, like Martin Lousteau. Yeah wasn't he more of a gossip jounralist than anything else? Badger of Basra posted:Speaking of Martin Lousteau, can someone explain to me what's going on with ECO/UNEN/FAP/CC? It seems like every month Carrió is doing something crazy. That's pretty much her whole gimmick really. E: Yggdrassil posted:UNEN still exists, Binner and Solanas are still working together, and for them to work with Macri would be political suicide. Macri is pretty much a populist-conservative, a 21st century Carlos Menem. Binner, and even more Solanas, are completely opposed to that political current. This reminds me, RIP the UCR (Union Civica Radical). The originally were the first proper political party, opposing the corrupt elites that conducted fraudulent elections. They did so both through intransigence (refusing to participate in the elections) and violence. They were the first party to have a turn at governing after the last military regime, and Alfonsín did more or less well. Now they are allied with PRO/Macri. How the mighty have fallen... Markovnikov fucked around with this message at 22:54 on Apr 27, 2015 |
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Markovnikov posted:Yeah wasn't he more of a gossip jounralist than anything else? He was, and now that he is moving towards different grounds, the lack of experience (and brains -some of his remarks are plain retarded) shows.
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Apr 27, 2015 22:54
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He also moonlights as one of the hosts in School for Husbands, an amazingly awful show.
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Apr 27, 2015 23:04
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Populism not only explains a big part of the lack of progress in our countries, but also the ludicrous cult of personality that is built around this mediocre figures (along with many other terrible things).
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 "If you're a communist and want to #livebetter in the #city, vote #Lubertino2015 for Mayor. #TheBestHasYetToCome" Along with the shameless use of hashtags and Biondini, this is one of the best things that our elections have brought up. 
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Future Days posted:
Today Victor Hugo Morales said that David Cameron was social-democrat / labour. This election is getting better evey day
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Victor Humo Morales is a piece of poo poo. That woman is not a communist and Fantino se comió al Polaco Bastía.
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Humo was a typo but I'm not changing it 
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What are the odds of toppling the Argentinian dictator and electing a competent human being?
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They'll just keep voting for Peronistas until there's nothing left.
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Polidoro posted:Victor Humo Morales is a piece of poo poo. That woman is not a communist and Fantino se comió al Polaco Bastía.  Ok, last one. Polidoro posted:Humo was a typo but I'm not changing it 
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Nonsense posted:What are the odds of toppling the Argentinian dictator and electing a competent human being? I don't think there is a candidate that is less garbage than the current president. So, zero. On the next city elections in july (or June, can't remember) we'll apparently change to electronic voting. That is going to be such a clusterfuck.
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Nonsense posted:What are the odds of toppling the Argentinian dictator and electing a competent human being? The front runners are Scioli, a peronist governor with a mannequin hand, Macri a neoliberal smuggler with a rich daddy who lives in a different reality and Massa, a Macri clone but a little more street wise.
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At the very least you have the comedy of it all. Na really, must be horrible not having many good options from the current trajectory of your respective regions.
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hecko posted:The front runners are Scioli, a peronist governor with a mannequin hand, Macri a neoliberal smuggler with a rich daddy who lives in a different reality and Massa, a Macri clone but a little more street wise. Doesn't Macri also claim to be a peronist and isn't Massa just one of the classic "dissidents" who claim to have pretty big differences with the government to keep people voting inside the party? So the three front runners are pretty much the same.
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Except Carrio who claims to be everything but a peronist, everybody claims to be one at some point or another.
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Polidoro posted:Victor Humo Morales is a piece of poo poo. Best typo Nonsense posted:What are the odds of toppling the Argentinian dictator and electing a competent human being? Not this election. Main choices are Scioli (peronism = populism), Massa (peronism again) and Macri (conservative populism). Maybe next election, in 5 years, if Lousteau takes a shot at it... we could have an actual human being in there.
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Yggdrassil posted:Maybe next election, in 5 years, if Lousteau takes a shot at it... we could have an actual human being in there. Sure, the day he stops disguising his supposed interest in social issues with the same economic recipes his "rivals" have for a solution, he may have a chance. That, and avoid loving married, pregnant women. 
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Tony Sorete posted:Sure, the day he stops disguising his supposed interest in social issues with the same economic recipes his "rivals" have for a solution, he may have a chance. I don't follow. The guy has pretty much diagnosed our social and economical problems to perfection over and over again. Besides, his plans are not like his rival's. The Kirchner's are outright thieves, and Macri is Menem's revival. Lousteau was actually brought into government under the idea that he would launch a project to create a proper welfare state, after all, he studied at the London School of Economics and Political Science. He resigned from his position as minister of economy after seeing that his ideas were far different from what Fernandez's government was really seeking. Not only that, but he is the only one proposing to put a stop on the abuse of political propaganda, and he is amazingly diplomatic. Have you heard him at Fantino's? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MDytc25E2Yg Excellent interview, pity Fantino interrupts him every 2 seconds... Yggdrassil fucked around with this message at 04:53 on Apr 28, 2015 |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yPJLL2FA8qg I'm just glad that anyone who could win was a proud Justicialist and completely onboard with what was happening during the 90s and between the three of them (OK Massa won't win but let's be kind) they're going to pick up 90%+ of the vote for President. Una mujer de cuarenta años visita al ginecólogo y le confiesa que es virgen. El ginecólogo se sorprende y le pregunta porque. ¿Nunca ha tenido un novio? La mujer aclara que tuvo tres novios. Aumenta la sorpresa del ginecólogo. ¿Cómo, si ha tenido tres amantes, es todavía virgen? “Primero tuve un amante que militaba en el Frepaso. Y era pura lengua. Mi segundo amante era peronista, me rompió el culo. Y mi tercer amante era radical, entonces cuando se ponia arriba no sabía qué hacer”.
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Yggdrassil posted:I don't follow. The guy has pretty much diagnosed our social and economical problems to perfection over and over again. Besides, his plans are not like his rival's. The Kirchner's are outright thieves, and Macri is Menem's revival. Lousteau was actually brought into government under the idea that he would launch a project to create a proper welfare state, after all, he studied at the London School of Economics and Political Science. He resigned from his position as minister of economy after seeing that his ideas were far different from what Fernandez's government was really seeking. Also sorry to double post but I'm on my phone. Lousteau (just like Carrio) won't amount to much. Even when she was the only viable opposition candidate and got a fair amount of other parties to go vote her for the position of president, she still put on a poor showing, and an even worse one for deputies. They have very little footprint outside of the Gran Buenos Aires, and that will always stop them. Lousteau and company, precisely because they are so opposed to clientelist politics, are completely unable to challenge the fuedal bastions in the provinces or make inroads into peronist strongholds like La Matanza.
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