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can we talk about trains or something?
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# ? Apr 28, 2015 16:35 |
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# ? May 28, 2024 15:55 |
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Oh hey Shbobdb. Here to tell us the truth about 9/11?
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# ? Apr 28, 2015 16:35 |
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Nintendo Kid posted:Most of the people from the independent cities/town bordering or sometimes enclaved within them will make a point to say they're from that specific place if you ask where they're from. You're hiding a classist/regionalist tendency here. I strongly doubt someone who lives in East Los Angeles (not even incorporated, natch) is going to stress that in quite the same way someone from Malibu will. And even if they did, it seems to me that they'd only make that distinction to someone who already lives in LA, because no one in Chicago is going to care that you live in East LA, especially if you can't point to it as a rich enclave.
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# ? Apr 28, 2015 16:37 |
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Shbobdb posted:While Baltimore is pretty far south, it is also north enough as to be "one of the good ones" that "isn't supposed to be racist". When I lived in MD, the KKK held a rally on MLK day at the Alex Haley memorial.
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# ? Apr 28, 2015 16:39 |
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Shbobdb posted:The Baltimore metro area overlaps with the DC Metro area. Also, Baltimore is on the coast and is a civilized place that people care about. St. Louis is in the middle of flyover country. A segregated portion of St. Louis is "whocaresville". It isn't about the size, it is about media impact. That's not quite an accurate view of racism in NE core cities.
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# ? Apr 28, 2015 16:40 |
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Ron Jeremy posted:When I lived in MD, the KKK held a rally on MLK day at the Alex Haley memorial. Southern Maryland is more outright racist than South Carolina was in my experience. The Saint Mary's/Waldorf area farmers don't mind telling you their thoughts on race.
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http://www.cnn.com/2015/04/28/politics/iran-seizes-commercial-ship-u-s-official-says-no-americans-on-board/index.htmlquote:Washington (CNN)Iran Revolutionary Guard patrol boats fired shots across the bow of and later intercepted a commercial cargo ship, the M/V Maersk Tigris, which was crossing the Strait of Hormuz Tuesday morning, according to a senior U.S. military official. The bugs whacked us, Johnny
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# ? Apr 28, 2015 16:41 |
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One of my favorite ironies in situations like this is that all the pearl-clutching white people condemning all the violence would be right there out in the streets burning poo poo down too if they faced a loving fraction of the institutionalized violence that poor minority communities have for decades.
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# ? Apr 28, 2015 16:43 |
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stinkles1112 posted:One of my favorite ironies in situations like this is that all the pearl-clutching white people condemning all the violence would be right there out in the streets burning poo poo down too if they faced a loving fraction of the institutionalized violence that poor minority communities have for decades. if only valve hadn't backtracked on paid skyrim mods...
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# ? Apr 28, 2015 16:44 |
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What's the eventual justification going to be, he was resisting arrest so the police had to use force and he magically died, a la Eric Garner? I also assume he had a squeaky clean past since the media hasn't been talking about him all, instead of obsessing over how he stole a six pack when he was fifteen. Tender Bender fucked around with this message at 16:48 on Apr 28, 2015 |
# ? Apr 28, 2015 16:45 |
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stinkles1112 posted:One of my favorite ironies in situations like this is that all the pearl-clutching white people condemning all the violence would be right there out in the streets burning poo poo down too if they faced a loving fraction of the institutionalized violence that poor minority communities have for decades. Everytime there's a big sporting event, actually.
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# ? Apr 28, 2015 16:46 |
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Shbobdb posted:The Baltimore metro area overlaps with the DC Metro area. Also, Baltimore is on the coast and is a civilized place that people care about. St. Louis is in the middle of flyover country. A segregated portion of St. Louis is "whocaresville". It isn't about the size, it is about media impact. Baltimore is unusual in that it's obviously more of the NYC, Philly mold of city with their brand of institutional racism but also has enough hick roots to dabble in the "aw shucks" southern racism. Baltimore city's white culture is more like south western Maryland than it is like Baltimore county.
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# ? Apr 28, 2015 16:47 |
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Beamed posted:Everytime there's a big sporting event, actually. Doesn't even need to be that big of a sporting event http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2014/11/white-people-rioting-for-no-reason.html quote:Keene, NH, 2014. Because pumpkins.
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# ? Apr 28, 2015 16:54 |
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Beamed posted:Everytime there's a big sporting event, actually. As far as Randpaul is concerned, being called a racist rear end in a top hat for being a racist rear end in a top hat is literally every bit as bad as experiencing three centuries of institutionalized dehumanization , discrimination, and socioeconomic disenfranchisement. I guess TTIITM, so losing a hockey or football game or pumpkin contest or surf contest is pretty much the same as reaching a cultural breaking point in the face of ongoing racial animosity and seeing yet another friend or neighbor get killed in police custody while nobody is held accountable for it.
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# ? Apr 28, 2015 16:58 |
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Nintendo Kid posted:No, they really, really do in American law and geography. I don't care that someone who lives dozens of miles away and never even visits thinks they're from the city, everyone knows they aren't. It's like trying to brag about how you can totally lift 400 pounds, just not today because you're sick or other such boasts. We're not talking about American law so I super don't care, and I disagree about geography. They don't need to "visit," because as far as they're concerned they're already in the city, so that's really kinda an improper way of thinking about it. If we are talking about American law you need to state that explicitly and then the discussion changes a whole heck of a lot. So as far as I can tell all you care about for what defines a city is that it is a governmental entity called a City with city limits. I think that because all you seem to refer to are city limits and the characteristics of Houston and Boston are massively different, but you still consider everything within the city limits as The City, because definition. That's weirdly rigid and a fairly bad definition of a city that, I think counter to what you say, doesn't apply to much of how people think of cities, in America, not in Australia, you weirdo. I don't think people have a sharp distinction based on if you step across an invisible line you are now inside the city, and if you step outside of the line you are now outside of the city. I think this looks even more ridiculous when you apply it to places like Anaconda, Montana, where there's hundreds of square miles of uninhabited forest that's technically city.
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# ? Apr 28, 2015 17:01 |
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Tender Bender posted:What's the eventual justification going to be, he was resisting arrest so the police had to use force and he magically died, a la Eric Garner? I've heard he was a drug dealer who was "poisoning his community" used as a justification for his death. This is from a place that overwhelmingly leans towards the war on drugs being one of the worst things ever. But he was black, so...
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# ? Apr 28, 2015 17:05 |
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Shbobdb posted:While Baltimore is pretty far south, it is also north enough as to be "one of the good ones" that "isn't supposed to be racist". Haha, what? The only reason Maryland didn't join the confederacy is because it was occupied by Federal troops and Lincoln arrested like half the legislature and held them without trial.
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# ? Apr 28, 2015 17:07 |
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VitalSigns posted:Haha, what? The only reason Maryland didn't join the confederacy is because it was occupied by Federal troops and Lincoln arrested like half the legislature and held them without trial. Not to mention it was a Slave state even when it was part of the Union. Lincoln made a special exception for them
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# ? Apr 28, 2015 17:13 |
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sugar free jazz posted:We're not talking about American law so I super don't care, and I disagree about geography. They don't need to "visit," because as far as they're concerned they're already in the city, so that's really kinda an improper way of thinking about it. If we are talking about American law you need to state that explicitly and then the discussion changes a whole heck of a lot. I sincerely dispute that most people who have never been to a city consider themselves inside the city. Perhaps people who are severely uneducated and also never had to tell anyone their address do? Also, why would we not be talking about American law when we're talking Americans, and American cities in the American politics thread? Seriously are you foreign or something, is English a second language for you? No, people in America really do understand that the city limits judge where the city stops and another place begins, in America, because that's how this country's system of government, society and history regard it. You seem to have a weird hang up about like the platonic ideal of the city but that's really quite irrelevant. Anaconda may be legally termed a city, but your average person would consider it merely a small town and it'd only be important that you entered it if they had laws that you might be violating. Again you seem to be just considering metropolitan area = city even though no person really thinks that.
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# ? Apr 28, 2015 17:14 |
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VitalSigns posted:Haha, what? The only reason Maryland didn't join the confederacy is because it was occupied by Federal troops and Lincoln arrested like half the legislature and held them without trial. Yeah, during the Civil War, but (possibly because of that?) we've gone the opposite way ever since, and share a lot more culturally with the North than the South. At least on the surface, anyway, as this whole thing has demonstrated. (And also as long as you don't go to the Eastern Shore.)
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Amergin posted:Southern Maryland is more outright racist than South Carolina was in my experience. The Saint Mary's/Waldorf area farmers don't mind telling you their thoughts on race. Oh my is thus true. I have family that lived in that area and left to visit Houston for the election because their neighbors had convinced each other that "the blacks" would burn DC to the ground and come spilling out into the countryside in search of food when Obama lost.
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# ? Apr 28, 2015 17:15 |
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In america they even put like signs on the road when you leave or enter a city so that you know that you are doing it.
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# ? Apr 28, 2015 17:15 |
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Log082 posted:Yeah, during the Civil War, but (possibly because of that?) we've gone the opposite way ever since, and share a lot more culturally with the North than the South. At least on the surface, anyway, as this whole thing has demonstrated. (And also as long as you don't go to the Eastern Shore.) some people refer to the midatlantic states as a subregion that has one foot in the north and the other in the south
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# ? Apr 28, 2015 17:16 |
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VitalSigns posted:Haha, what? The only reason Maryland didn't join the confederacy is because it was occupied by Federal troops and Lincoln arrested like half the legislature and held them without trial. Shbobdb is talking about how people like to view themselves and the areas, not the actual history. You know, same reason white people generally think cops are fine.
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# ? Apr 28, 2015 17:16 |
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Nintendo Kid posted:I sincerely dispute that most people who have never been to a city consider themselves inside the city. Perhaps people who are severely uneducated and also never had to tell anyone their address do? Also, why would we not be talking about American law when we're talking Americans, and American cities in the American politics thread? Seriously are you foreign or something, is English a second language for you? You are 100% indisputably correct about this utterly irrelevant derail congratulations now can we talk about something besides what constitutes a geographical city please
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# ? Apr 28, 2015 17:30 |
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How Washington derailed Amtrakquote:Thirty-nine minutes into his southbound ride from Wilmington, Delaware, to Washington, D.C., Joseph H. Boardman, president and CEO of Amtrak, begins to cry. We're in the dining car of a train called the Silver Star, surrounded by people eating hamburgers. The Silver Star runs from New York City to Miami in 31 hours, or five more hours than the route took in 1958, which is when our dining car was built. Boardman and I have been discussing the unfortunate fact that 45 years since its inception, the company he oversees remains a poorly funded, largely neglected ward of the state, unable to fully control its own finances or make its own decisions. I ask him, "Is this a frustrating job?" http://www.nationaljournal.com/magazine/amtrak-acela-high-speed-trains-20150417
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# ? Apr 28, 2015 17:31 |
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In these trying times, we turn to our nation's leaders* to offer us clarity: "As far as root causes, Paul listed some ideas of his own. "There are so many things we can talk about," the senator said, "the breakdown of the family structure, the lack of fathers, the lack of a moral code in our society." He added that "this isn't just a racial thing." *and also to Rand Paul
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# ? Apr 28, 2015 17:31 |
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fade5 posted:Yep, Vice remains awesome. I don't watch a lot of Vice, but I watched this and the ISIS video and goddamn those reporters are really willing to go places that most aren't. Also it's worth mentioning that we have a thread for discussing institutional racism right in this very forum. It's easy to find now because it has a "crap" rating.
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# ? Apr 28, 2015 17:46 |
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baw posted:I don't watch a lot of Vice, but I watched this and the ISIS video and goddamn those reporters are really willing to go places that most aren't. shame about the GBS white power brigade though
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# ? Apr 28, 2015 17:47 |
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Tender Bender posted:What's the eventual justification going to be, he was resisting arrest so the police had to use force and he magically died, a la Eric Garner? http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/crime/freddie-was-our-family/2015/04/24/662956a2-e9d4-11e4-9a6a-c1ab95a0600b_story.html He has an arrest record for supposedly dealing small amounts of marijuana and heroine. I say supposedly because they found the drugs nearby and assumed it to be his according to the article. Even assuming that he was a small time drug dealer, it's not really much better than executing a man on the street under suspicion of selling loose, untaxed cigarettes.
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# ? Apr 28, 2015 17:50 |
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Non-Joemomentum quote of the dayObama posted:"Today is also a chance for Americans — especially our young people — to say thank you for all the things we love from Japan," Obama said. "Like karate, karaoke, manga, anime and of course, emojis."
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# ? Apr 28, 2015 17:50 |
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Shageletic posted:Non-Joemomentum quote of the day No mention of washoku?
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# ? Apr 28, 2015 17:53 |
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Where is Monster Hunter on that list. Thanks Obama.
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# ? Apr 28, 2015 17:54 |
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Shageletic posted:Non-Joemomentum quote of the day Obama: secret ADTRW poster?
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# ? Apr 28, 2015 17:55 |
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Shageletic posted:Non-Joemomentum quote of the day
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# ? Apr 28, 2015 17:56 |
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Shageletic posted:Non-Joemomentum quote of the day
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Iron Twinkie posted:http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/crime/freddie-was-our-family/2015/04/24/662956a2-e9d4-11e4-9a6a-c1ab95a0600b_story.html Someone on my Facebook brought his arrest record up. Didn't you know? Being a dealer means breaking your spine is fair game.
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# ? Apr 28, 2015 17:58 |
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I don't see tamagoyaki on that list. Clear evidence that Obama hates eggs and also freedom.
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# ? Apr 28, 2015 17:59 |
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Ron Jeremy posted:In these trying times, we turn to our nation's leaders* to offer us clarity: He has a good point. Our police officers need to be raised in supportive households with stern fathers to teach them a strong moral code.
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# ? Apr 28, 2015 18:08 |
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Ron Jeremy posted:In these trying times, we turn to our nation's leaders* to offer us clarity: Someone's been reading the Moynihan Report
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