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zedprime posted:As not a geologist I can confirm with 100% accuracy that this is exactly how instability works after an earthquake. It makes sense insofar as "avalanches that would have been caused by minor snow shifts have been shaken loose". It just ignores the idea of more snow falling, aftershocks, and looking like a complete twat regardless of your stated goal of "doing it for Nepal", so
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Apr 28, 2015 18:03
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dad gay. so what posted:at least they died doing what they loved. Screaming in terror
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Apr 28, 2015 18:10
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I considered going this year, but decided against it. That's 52 years in a row.
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Apr 28, 2015 18:29
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genesplicer posted:I considered going this year, but decided against it. That's 52 years in a row. My goal is to see Everest base camp, which is pretty accessible from the Tibetan side. And I want to go to Tibet, so that works out.
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Apr 28, 2015 18:30
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Cojawfee posted:How does he intend to get past the ice fall? The article doesn't detail that, but I'll ferry any future updates to the thread. He seems pleased at the national attention, so I'm sure I'll hear more about it.
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Apr 28, 2015 18:43
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Is Everest visible from base camp? I know there are parts of the climb where you can't see the top. If you can see the summit from base camp, I might visit some day.
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Apr 28, 2015 18:46
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Cojawfee posted:Is Everest visible from base camp? I know there are parts of the climb where you can't see the top. If you can see the summit from base camp, I might visit some day. On the Tibetan side, yes. It's a day trip to get there from some major cities (major for Tibet).
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Apr 28, 2015 18:56
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Cojawfee posted:How does he intend to get past the ice fall? Probably helicopter again. Then make his Sherpa take all the equipment by traversing the Icefall multiple times in the middle of aftershocks. Honestly, he can do what he wants, but it seems rather cheap to try and make what is clearly a selfish goal (summitting Everest) and trying to somehow make it like he is doing it for everyone! Considering that there were more permits issued this year than last despite the fact that climbers didn't even make it onto the mountain last year, I somehow doubt that some random team making it to the summit this year will make a bit of difference. I am sure tragedy befalling on the mountain for the second year in a row will only encourage more climbers and thrill seekers from the news exposure, and film crews looking to capitalize on the media attention. Plus I am sure that there will be a push both internationally and from within Nepal to try and encourage tourism and investment in the country. Nurturing the climbing and hiking expeditions is obviously a huge part of that. I keep wondering if the money he would be spending to try a second push to the summit would be better spent trying to actually help people in Kathmandu or Nepal in general. I was going to make an unrelated comment about that 17-year old Australian girl, but then I realized that I don't even know if she was one of people who died at base camp. Felt bad about possibly making GBS threads on the dream of a dead girl. Which is weird cause I didn't feel so bad about it for the Canadian woman. Although I did typically avoid making too much fun. Edit: Looks like she is OK! And her father thinks she will attempt again. It seems she has downgraded her dream to just be the youngest Australian to summit, and she has like another 2 or 3 years as the youngest Australian to summit was 21 years old at the time. http://www.thechronicle.com.au/news/toowoomba-teen-alyssa-azar-survives-nepal-earthqua/2618894/ Gripen5 fucked around with this message at 19:13 on Apr 28, 2015 |
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Apr 28, 2015 19:07
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only selfish assholes care about climbing everest. thats what the schadenfreude itt is all about even the sherpas are getting rich letting foreigners poo poo all over their mountain god for money. im glad that even primitive geological deities can still get theirs in tyool 2015
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I had put this thread off to the side at the end of the season last year, and just today I decided it to pick it up. It was kind of like reading a novel, seeing the 'death pool' and wondering how it was going to play out. I've only been in a small earthquake before (DC 2011 and it was pretty scary). That video of the 7.9 was pretty intense.
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Did anyone summit naked?
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Gripen5 posted:I was going to make an unrelated comment about that 17-year old Australian girl, but then I realized that I don't even know if she was one of people who died at base camp. Felt bad about possibly making GBS threads on the dream of a dead girl. Which is weird cause I didn't feel so bad about it for the Canadian woman. Although I did typically avoid making too much fun. Unfortunately the youngest non-sherpa to summit is now a 13 year old girl, so at this point trying to beat that record is just stupid. Any lower and it's just child abuse. 13 is pretty dodgy as it is.
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Angela Christine posted:Unfortunately the youngest non-sherpa to summit is now a 13 year old girl, so at this point trying to beat that record is just stupid. Any lower and it's just child abuse. 13 is pretty dodgy as it is. I'm sure some pregnant women already went and gave her child brain damage from oxygen deprivation
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Angela Christine posted:Unfortunately the youngest non-sherpa to summit is now a 13 year old girl, so at this point trying to beat that record is just stupid. Any lower and it's just child abuse. 13 is pretty dodgy as it is. 13 isn't "pretty dodgy," it's reckless endangerment of a child. There's a reason why children aren't allowed to make their own medical decisions, have sex with adults, or own guns; they can't give informed consent, are easily manipulated by authority figures, and lack the experience and maturity to make decisions that directly endanger the lives of others if they're wrong. Anyone going up Everest needs to be able to give informed consent; and children tend to believe they're indestructible. I would argue that anyone involved in allowing a 13-year-old to attempt to summit Everest should be prosecuted.
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Leperflesh posted:13 isn't "pretty dodgy," it's reckless endangerment of a child. There's a reason why children aren't allowed to make their own medical decisions, have sex with adults, or own guns; they can't give informed consent, are easily manipulated by authority figures, and lack the experience and maturity to make decisions that directly endanger the lives of others if they're wrong. You might be surprised by this but different cultures have different feelings about how old someone needs to be to make certain decisions.
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prinneh posted:
LOL yeah, there totally wont be any more aftershocks. All done now. You'll be fine.
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unpacked robinhood posted:I'm sure some pregnant women already went and gave her child brain damage from oxygen deprivation This woman has already done that. Sort of. Her son that she was pregnant with at the time is now a climber too! PS She ended up dead on K2
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dj_clawson posted:You might be surprised by this but different cultures have different feelings about how old someone needs to be to make certain decisions. I'm not surprised at all, and in fact was about 80% sure someone would mention it immediately. I can buy an argument for a 16-year old, in a culture where 16-year-olds have serious adult responsibilities, and the culture trains and supports them to take such responsibilities on. 13 though, no. There is a broad gray area, and 13 is outside of it. At least where Everest summits are concerned. The decision to risk your life in such an extravagantly dangerous way, in pursuit of... what. A record? Don't give me something about challenge or sweeping vistas or some horseshit like that, because challenges and sweeping vistas are available at much, much, much lower risk (and cost), both to the 13-year-old, and to the people around them whose lives are at risk just to get the 13-year-old up to the high camps on Everest. I'm OK with assisted suicide, so if idiots want to try the Everest summit without exploiting Sherpas, that's OK with me. They're still idiots, but whatever, it's their lives to spend as they please. They're probably also disregarding the families and friends they're going to leave behind if they die, but again, that's a personal matter that I can sneer about but I wouldn't want there to be actual laws stopping them on that basis or something. But I'm not OK with recklessly endangering children, and there's no amount of cultural relativity that prepares a 13-year-old child to give informed consent to such a thing.
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Remember the 14 yo girl who wanted to be the youngest person to climb everest, wrote a book about her "lifelong dream" then couldn't climb because the Sherpas hosed off last year, then a 13 yo climbed from the Chinese side
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So can that guy claim to be the youngest person to climb the Eiger north face?
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PostNouveau posted:Well all the realistic numbers are taken, so I guess I'll go with a huge avalanche hits Camp 1 and kills 18. I hope the tide is turning against the standard practices that keep getting people killed, and maybe the expedition leaders will take care and only take a reasonable number of qualified climbers up. /\ god drat you were close Anyway here's the current standings! If I've missed you please let me know (sorry I got caught up in a new job): But seriously please donate to the Nepal earthquake. 4,600 people who aren't retarded glory-seekers actually died and they actually deserve our sympathy. 17 Picnic Princess, ranbo das, Sanguinary Novel (15 climbers, 2 sherpas) 18 The Great Burrito, Varkk, whiteyfats (14 climbers, 4 sherpas), Ars Arcanum (I admit I hosed up and probably didn't count 18 right, but we're going to be above that anyway) 19 gggiiimmmppp (all climbers), monster on a stick, Chicken Doodle 20 Daedra, Triple-Kan (midgets are people too), bensnotacat 21 zzuupp, bucksmash, Ursine Asylum 22 BaronVonVaderham (5 sherpas 17 climbers), Mudcrab Merchant, Soup du Jour 23 LITERALLY SHAKING, Teketeketeketeke, eating only apples 26 Leperflesh, Stoat, Germstore 28 PresidentBeard 29 Otakufag, Topher87 30 donar (all climbers) 34 Gehenomm (all climbers) 35 rotinaj 41 Josef K. Sourdust 162 Happy Hedonist 7,025,000,000 Butt Wizard The North Tower fucked around with this message at 01:30 on Apr 29, 2015 |
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Captain Novolin posted:Remember the 14 yo girl who wanted to be the youngest person to climb everest, wrote a book about her "lifelong dream" then couldn't climb because the Sherpas hosed off last year, then a 13 yo climbed from the Chinese side I think she was 17, and if she's there this year, man she must be out like 200,000 dollars. Probably double that because a parent must be with her.
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Wow, PostNouveau's thought was prescient. On the other hand, it sounds like there were over a hundred climbers at Camp 1 or 2 when the earthquake happened, suggesting that no, the tide has not turned against the standard practices that keep getting people killed, at all. Those climbers were not up there for summit attempts, they're just making acclimatization climbs (normally climbers go back and forth from base camp to camps 1/2 several times before making a summit attempt) but it's obvious that the guide companies are still not cooperatively ensuring that there isn't a conga line of hundreds of climbers piling up at bottlenecks all up and down the mountain.
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dj_clawson posted:I think she was 17, and if she's there this year, man she must be out like 200,000 dollars. Probably double that because a parent must be with her. People who had permits for last year were (eventually) allowed to go this year on last year's permits. So she's probably only out the one permit. That's a big chunk of the money.
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Everest is closed on the Nepalese side for the season: http://www.bostonherald.com/news_opinion/international/asia/2015/04/following_nepal_quake_climbers_say_everest_season_is_over
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dj_clawson posted:Everest is closed on the Nepalese side for the season: why?
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dj_clawson posted:Everest is closed on the Nepalese side for the season: Look at these selfish bastards. Not even willing to summit "for nepal".
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Fansy posted:why? There was an earthquake.
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dj_clawson posted:Everest is closed on the Nepalese side for the season: loving pussies
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dj_clawson posted:My goal is to see Everest base camp, which is pretty accessible from the Tibetan side. And I want to go to Tibet, so that works out. I had a professor in college who was an amateur mountaineer his whole life, and the most he cared to do was trek from the tibetan side, to base camp, to the nepali side. Said it was a pretty brutal trek and erased any desire he had to summit a 8000m peak.
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OMGVBFLOL posted:I had a professor in college who was an amateur mountaineer his whole life, and the most he cared to do was trek from the tibetan side, to base camp, to the nepali side. Said it was a pretty brutal trek and erased any desire he had to summit a 8000m peak. gently caress that I'm renting a jeep.
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dj_clawson posted:gently caress that I'm renting a jeep. it doesn't seem like it'd be too hard to climb a jeep
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drive it into a ditch first and it's even easier. then you can go get a real car
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Leperflesh posted:I'm not surprised at all, and in fact was about 80% sure someone would mention it immediately. But... they're accomplishing something, lazy goons. Don't you dare make fun of the 
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You must be old enough to touch a dick in america before you may summit the mountain
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MOVIE MAJICK posted:You must be old enough to touch a dick in america before you may summit the mountain 
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Sherpa lives matter.
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ZombieLenin posted:But... they're accomplishing something, lazy goons. Don't you dare make fun of the LOL, the 13 year old girl wasn't even rich. Her last name is POORna. http://www.people.com/article/13-year-old-indian-girl-climbs-mount-everest-youngest-ever-malavath-poorna quote:A 13-year-old Indian girl, raised in poverty as the daughter of farm workers, has become the youngest person to reach Mount Everest's summit. I bet the 17 year old australian was really mad about a charity case beating her to the record.
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