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FlamingLiberal posted:They built a giant cathedral down here in Coral Gables about 15 or so years ago with a copper roof. With our rain it didn't last long. Unless your rain is caustic it shouldn't really matter, copper passivates (that nice green verdegris doesn't work like rust, it protects the metal underneath) and stands up to water extremely well. Copper roofs can last a century if maintained "even a little bit". There's a host of reasons why copper is the go-to base alloy component for metals like naval bronze that are expected to be immersed in seawater or be left outdoors for their entire service life. They coulda hosed it up in some other way, though. Like, tacking copper down with galvanized nails would turn each sheet/shingle into a self-destructive galvanic cell upon contact with moisture, that's a screw-up that happens often enough. Ambrose Burnside fucked around with this message at 15:27 on Apr 27, 2015 |
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Ambrose Burnside posted:Unless your rain is caustic it shouldn't really matter, copper passivates (that nice green verdegris doesn't work like rust, it protects the metal underneath) and stands up to water extremely well. Copper roofs can last a century if maintained "even a little bit". There's a host of reasons why copper is the go-to base alloy component for metals like naval bronze that are expected to be immersed in seawater or be left outdoors for their entire service life. I would think the "sounds like a giant reverberating snare drum" would be the main reason it wouldn't last long if it rains often.
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Powerful Two-Hander posted:If you want to be the only guy in the afterlife that lives in a bent pyramid go ahead. it would mark me as a cool laid-back kind of pharaoh unlike nefagtiti or, uh, ramshit
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Ambrose Burnside posted:Unless your rain is caustic it shouldn't really matter, copper passivates (that nice green verdegris doesn't work like rust, it protects the metal underneath) and stands up to water extremely well. Copper roofs can last a century if maintained "even a little bit". There's a host of reasons why copper is the go-to base alloy component for metals like naval bronze that are expected to be immersed in seawater or be left outdoors for their entire service life. I'm pretty sure that one of the Navy's new littoral ship designs, one of those things that are designed to be the FUTURE OF WARFARE but no one actually wanted, had this exact problem.
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Benagain posted:I'm pretty sure that one of the Navy's new littoral ship designs, one of those things that are designed to be the FUTURE OF WARFARE but no one actually wanted, had this exact problem. yes and it's extremely glorious because the Royal Navy was issuing recommendations to halt galvanic corrosion on metal-sheathed wooden ships in the dang 1700s, before anybody understood what electricity even was, and people stick sacrificial anodes on their 15-foot dinghies as a matter of course, but the shipbuilder somehow forgot that galvanic corrosion is a "thing" for a ~$250 million or sth warship. and iirc the main site of bimetal contact is between the engine mount and the hull so it's Extremely Structural and can't be fixed so they gotta tack a shitload of anodes on that require frequent replacement and add a bunch of drag to what's supposed to be a very zippy ship. it's wonderful it makes me so happy Ambrose Burnside fucked around with this message at 16:34 on Apr 27, 2015 |
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it's kind of like building a house and forgetting you need to vent the furnace or laundry machine or anything at all, except the house is the most expensive house in America and the Bank of America board member who commissioned it was nodding approvingly throughout the entire construction. it's just amazing no matter how you look at it
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Kennel posted:
Nah that looks pretty cool.
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Slanderer posted:Nah that looks pretty cool.  on the copper, too bad the hosed up window layout ruins the building
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flosofl posted:I would think the "sounds like a giant reverberating snare drum" would be the main reason it wouldn't last long if it rains often. I'll have you know I've spent a non-trivial amount of time in synthesizers trying to achieve that sound.
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Powerful Two-Hander posted:If you want to be the only guy in the afterlife that lives in a bent pyramid go ahead.
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DNova posted:I can't think of any examples of copper siding other than the photo that was posted. Copper roofs are rare but not unusual. How about copper everything?  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/De_Young_(museum)
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DNova posted:I can't think of any examples of copper siding other than the photo that was posted. Copper roofs are rare but not unusual.   Skellefteå, Sweden.
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Kennel posted:
This is my favorite so far. The patina looks really cool. Shame about the "lol so random :iamafag:" windows though.
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If you've ever been or known a student from the Illinois university system, you probably know about "Altgeld's Castles.". Named for Governor John Altgeld who was bananas for Gothic style castles and libraries, the Governor helped shepard construction of four buildings across Illinois' university system. All four were originally used as libraries like the governor had envisioned but have since changed purposes. All but one are now called Altgeld Hall. Here's Northern Illinois' Altgeld Hall. When it opened, it housed the entire university since it was the first building constructed for the campus. It's currently the university's administration building.  This is the Altgeld Hall of Southern Illinois University at Carbondale. It was originally a library and gymnasium and is now the School of Music building (WTF?).  The aforementioned outlier (Cook Hall) at Illinois State University. It's also an outlier for using limestone for the exterior at the architect's direction. It, like the ISU Altgeld, was originally the library, then a gymnasium, and is also the campus School of Music building.  And finally, being a graduate of the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign, here's the Altgeld Hall that I'm most keenly aware of. It was originally the university's library before becoming the Law Building (which is why in the picture "Law Building" is engraved right in front) but it changed again and now houses the Mathematics department (students know it as the Math Castle). It was originally supposed to look like NIU and SIUC's castles but outside pressure moved its design towards a Richardsonian Romanesque style, whatever the gently caress that is.  Here's the thing though: none of the buildings are complete castles or buildings. They don't encircle a courtyard or anything and they are all filled with half-floors and you can only get to certain rooms/floors through certain entrances. This has led to the (false) idea that all four were part of one grand design that was split across the four universities and that they should fit together. If you were ever a student at UIUC and had a math class, you probably hated the first week or so of class because gently caress it, the north entrance doesn't have access to the 2.5 floor and jesus I'm going to be late. Thwomp fucked around with this message at 15:55 on Apr 28, 2015 |
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I've seen my fair share of gothic and neogothic buildings, but those have to be the worst. I think I'm actually getting a bit offended by their mere existence.
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I think those are pretty neat. At least it's much better than Yet Another Concrete Box.
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They look like oversized children's toys.
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Thwomp posted:This is the Altgeld Hall of Southern Illinois University at Carbondale. It was originally a library and gymnasium and is now the School of Music building (WTF?). Fun fact: standing opposite Altgeld is another terrible architectural failure, Faner Hall. Built during the height of the student protest movement, its selling point was that it was a) a giant wall in the middle of the campus and b) confusing in its internal layout so that attempts to seize and barricade the building would be high impossible.  As an anti-riot measure it succeeds admirably, but as an educational facility it's a loving mess. None of the stairwells go from the first floor to the top floor. There are four stairwells that go from the ground to the second floor, in between those are stairwells that go from the second to fourth floors. At the very ends there are yet another set of stairwells with roof access. The interior of the building is also a maze, constantly splitting into separate hallways, and the building was designed so that you can't walk from one end of the building to the other on the same floor. I've heard jokes that some of the student protestors entered in the 60s and have yet to leave; considering that it's the headquarters for the School of Liberal Arts that may be entirely accurate. Even as a fan of brutalist architecture I can say it's not a good building. (There are a couple parts that are kinda cool-looking in their own right but look like they're tacked on to the main building.)
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Default Settings posted:I've seen my fair share of gothic and neogothic buildings, but those have to be the worst. I think I'm actually getting a bit offended by their mere existence. Honestly I don't mind the look of the Math law building, not taking account of the mess that is apparently the inside. The first three look exactly how I would a 'castle' made on the cheap in the 70's would look like, which yeah goes without saying is pretty poo poo. Also wish math law was a thing; "division for violating the Distributive Law of mathematics I sentence you to three month in jail, and fifty lashings."
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Thwomp posted:And finally, being a graduate of the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign  Another oddity on that campus is DCL (the Digital Computer Lab). Its second half was built well after the first was completed, resulting in a main hall with modern steel on one side and bare brick on the other. 
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dr_rat posted:The first three look exactly how I would a 'castle' made on the cheap in the 70's would look like, which yeah goes without saying is pretty poo poo. Please note: These were built in 1899, 1896, 1898, and 1897, respectively. haveblue posted:
The UIUC Engineering quad also has this monstrosity of a building.  The Beckman Center I don't mind the initial front design but then it just goes off on the left for another section or two. Most photographs cut that part off but that makes the left part look like it just keeps repeating forever. Also, the one part on the right is actually recessed back from the main tower which itself is its own thing in in front and connected by gangways. Here's a top down view. 
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Thwomp posted:Please note: These were built in 1899, 1896, 1898, and 1897, respectively. The terribleness of 70's architecture can not be contain to just one decade... Or apparently century.
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The Milwaukee School of Engineering has a relatively new athletic center called the Kern Center. Looks nicely modern: The Google satellite view shows how the architect felt about the project (Comparison shown in the inset): 
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Neutrino posted:The Milwaukee School of Engineering has a relatively new athletic center called the Kern Center. Looks nicely modern: I approve.
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I CANNOT EJACULATE WITHOUT SEEING NATIVE AMERICANS BRUTALISED!
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Phlegmish posted:nefagtiti thought this was a real pharaoh til I got to ramshit
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Kennel posted:
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Here's a marvel of architecture I pass by a few times a year, the never-managed-to-open Igloo Hotel.  There's a great slideshow here.
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Kennel posted:Speaking of histrorical architectural gently caress ups: The best part is that if you look closely, it's slightly curved -- it started to tilt during construction (took a long-rear end time to build), and they built the upper floors to be level after the lower floors had started to tilt.
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Bad Angus! Bad!
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Venusian Weasel posted:Fun fact: standing opposite Altgeld is another terrible architectural failure, Faner Hall. Built during the height of the student protest movement, its selling point was that it was a) a giant wall in the middle of the campus and b) confusing in its internal layout so that attempts to seize and barricade the building would be high impossible. I didn't mention this when I posted "The Blender"at OU earlier, because it's a rumor, but it was supposedly designed with student riots in mind. The lower three floors in the base are served by one set of elevators, and the big lecture halls are in the base. Note that there are no windows in the base. The higher floors in the central tower are served by another set of elevators, and when you ride them up, there's enough of a pause between floors 3 and 4 that there should be a floor there. So the rumor was that, in the event of a student riot, the staff could pull the tower elevators up from the base and be safe, and that the "missing level" in the tower allowed for a pinch-point to stop hostile forces.
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Rah! posted:How about copper everything? How about aluminum? 
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I recently visited Texas A&M in the city of College Station for the first time. Hoo boy. Let me tell you about it. First of all, it's massive and looks like it was mostly built up in the 1960s and 1970s. Lots of brutalism and "international style." Lots of wide open spaces. Lots of students but the size and space makes it seem like there's fewer than there really are. Combined with the Corps of Cadets walking around -- the university's paramilitary organization -- and I felt like I was in an alternate universe where Texas was taken over by a totalitarian regime. Students dressed like college students anywhere but it was more on the conservative side. I saw some chalk graffiti that said "LIFE GOALS" and had a drawing of a two-parent family. Which is a fine goal but still, I was impressed with that. I'm from this state and I was still going "dayum."       
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FYI every single college campus in the US has some baseless story about how something was designed to prevent riots or how this one building that looks different was actually designed for a different school but lol whoops the blueprints got mixed up and they built it here by mistake.
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DNova posted:FYI every single college campus in the US has some baseless story about how something was designed to prevent riots or how this one building that looks different was actually designed for a different school but lol whoops the blueprints got mixed up and they built it here by mistake. and the architect failed to take the weight of the books into account so the building started sinking hyuk
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My school was opened in 2003, so I've never heard any of those. 
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DNova posted:FYI every single college campus in the US has some baseless story about how something was designed to prevent riots or how this one building that looks different was actually designed for a different school but lol whoops the blueprints got mixed up and they built it here by mistake. CSUCI doesn't have any stories like that, but then most of it was built as a state mental institution. True story!
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tempe municipal building, built in the 70s. yes, it's an upside-down pyramid. quote:Vincent said that City Hall’s architect, Michael Goodwin, of Michael & Kemper Goodwin Ltd., strove to design a building that had complete respect for the Arizona sun, an open space vista at the heart of the site, open citizen access and community integration. In addition, before plans were drawn up for the new City Hall, rumor has it that former Mayor Bradley asked that offices for elected officials and the city manager be located on the top floor, while support staff and people-oriented services occupy the lower floors in order to make them handy to the public. Designing a structure that could honor each of these criteria was no easy task.
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Feminition posted:tempe municipal building, built in the 70s. yes, it's an upside-down pyramid. I can't be down on this, it's like a good version of that dallas city hall building they used in robocop. I think the two things that make it completely different are the landscaping and metal siding instead of exposed concrete. they're fundamentally the same thing, and upside down pyramid, but the tempe building doesn't look like it was built by a fascist regime padijun fucked around with this message at 04:47 on Apr 30, 2015 |
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Feminition posted:tempe municipal building, built in the 70s. yes, it's an upside-down pyramid. I actually kind of like it. Of course, I'm saying that never having been there in person. There could be a whole level of hellishness with this thing I can't appreciate over the Internet.
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