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Yeah those were nightmare times. "Oh god what's happened?!" Quick someone torrent it!
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We had to resort to finding really low-quality streams by word of mouth. Frankly, it was worth it.
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Apr 29, 2015 07:49
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Fucknag posted:It crashed newgrounds, yes. On the reinforced server it has for just such occasions. Needless to say, but it also broke MSPA.com
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Apr 29, 2015 08:55
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Fucknag posted:It crashed newgrounds, yes. On the reinforced server it has for just such occasions. I thought that while he had entered negotiations to put it on the reinforced server he never actually got around to FINISHING them and then did indeed put it on newgrounds, but not the reinforced server.
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Apr 29, 2015 09:01
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Space Cadet Omoly posted:The Roxy Jake knew his entire life is dead and now a doppelganger from another dimension has come to take her place. It's probably going to take some time for Jake to get used to this situation. It's weird to compare Homestuck and Rick & Morty. They definitely hit some similar notes regarding the multiverse of selves, but as in that clip Morty finds the idea of burying himself overwhelming while Dave hucked his own corpse into the magma and that was just the start of his problems. John uses his retcon powers to go back to Terezi trying to summon him, and the Other John just casually accepts that he's probably not John anymore and is about to die or be erased from existence. All of the players have accepted to different degrees that they're sort of impermanent - this isn't their John or Roxy, maybe, but it's a John and Roxy, so gently caress it, close enough. Where did they come from? Eh, probably some other timeline. What if they die too? Well, maybe a new John and Roxy will come along from some other dimension, or maybe this whole timeline's a wash and the real yourself is out there in the real timeline, and their John and Roxy are alive. It'd be a bit of a satisfying return to form for Jake to flagrantly fail to grasp the mental gymnastics the situation calls for and rejects that Roxy is in fact Roxy, the same way he confused Meenah for the Condesce, but it'd get in the way of the increased plot tempo we're trying to set here so if anyone actually has reservations about the death of the individual Vriska'll probably deflect them with a few lines. The only character who's actually the original version of a person we were first introduced to is Davesprite, assuming he came over with John on LOWAS.
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Apr 29, 2015 09:25
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I'm reminded of the ending of the novel version of Red Dwarf: Backwards, where Rimmer and Kryten both die but Lister and Cat escape to another dimension where it so happens that they're dead but Rimmer and Kryten are still around. It's at the very end of the novel, so you don't really get to see the implications play out, but a return to the status quo seems to be the idea.
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Apr 29, 2015 09:56
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Dolash's effortposts are unironically the best part of this thread atm
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Apr 29, 2015 10:41
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I'm sure you all are talking about something super interesting and relevant to current events but I need to bring up this page of Paradox Space because I just noticed that in the last panel every green object has had a bite taken out of it and god drat the Mayor is the best loving character in all of Homestuck
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Apr 29, 2015 11:08
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Plom Bar posted:I'm sure you all are talking about something super interesting and relevant to current events but I need to bring up this page of Paradox Space because I just noticed that in the last panel every green object has had a bite taken out of it and god drat the Mayor is the best loving character in all of Homestuck Much of Paradox Space has grown on me, like the cancerous tumor it is on the comic itself. KC Green is still loving awful tho
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Apr 29, 2015 11:20
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WAR FOOT posted:Dolash's effortposts are unironically the best part of this thread ftfy
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Apr 29, 2015 11:56
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koos' effortposts
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Apr 29, 2015 12:11
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WAR FOOT posted:koos 
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WAR FOOT posted:Dolash's effortposts are unironically the best part of this thread atm Damning with faint praise.
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Apr 29, 2015 13:17
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Where did the 4/29 update go? e. oh its still there just not linked to in the left column for whatever reason
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Apr 29, 2015 15:36
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Bilirubin posted:Where did the 4/29 update go? I had to completely refresh my browser for it to show up there. Try holding ctrl-shift-r and see if that helps.
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Apr 29, 2015 15:44
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reignonyourparade posted:I thought that while he had entered negotiations to put it on the reinforced server he never actually got around to FINISHING them and then did indeed put it on newgrounds, but not the reinforced server.
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Apr 29, 2015 16:59
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Back then Hussie usually had an average of at least a dozen pages a day, so usually the first indication of there being a big flash coming up was when the website RSS didn't ping for a day.
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Apr 29, 2015 17:03
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Dolash posted:It's weird to compare Homestuck and Rick & Morty. They definitely hit some similar notes regarding the multiverse of selves, but as in that clip Morty finds the idea of burying himself overwhelming while Dave hucked his own corpse into the magma and that was just the start of his problems. John uses his retcon powers to go back to Terezi trying to summon him, and the Other John just casually accepts that he's probably not John anymore and is about to die or be erased from existence. I wonder what Other John is doing right now, anyway. Did he go see his denizen? Is he a last line of defense? Has he got reality-editing powers too?
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Apr 29, 2015 17:04
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I think the only thing that was as impressive as Cascade in terms of collateral damage was when Hussie literally crashed Tumblr with the Kanaya/Rose kiss.
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Apr 29, 2015 17:28
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Glazius posted:I wonder what Other John is doing right now, anyway. Did he go see his denizen? Is he a last line of defense? Has he got reality-editing powers too? He died when his planet exploded.
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Apr 29, 2015 17:33
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Maybe he means that alternate John from when John retconned a scene he'd already been in (who also had retcon powers). He was told he was probably irrelevant now and we assume he'd just disappear, but we're not sure. I sure hope Davesprite didn't just die since his story is kind of sad.
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Apr 29, 2015 17:37
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Blackheart posted:Maybe he means that alternate John from when John retconned a scene he'd already been in (who also had retcon powers). He was told he was probably irrelevant now and we assume he'd just disappear, but we're not sure. John's bargain with Typheus resulted in the fact that every other John is dead. The only John that survives in any timeline is the one we're currently following -- so every John who didn't die in some other way throughout all of Paradox Space eventually meets with Typheus and makes the same bargain for the opposite effect, dying so this John can be the only John. So that alternate John that our John retconned probably flew off to Typheus and got exploded in his planet, or drowned in oil, or whatever. Also Davesprite is probably definitely going to show up again in some form, since we've had intimations of a Choice he made with Hephaestus whose repercussions have yet to be fully explored. I'm betting he stowed away on the cleared out LOWAS.
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Apr 29, 2015 17:53
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H.P. Shivcraft posted:Also Davesprite is probably definitely going to show up again in some form, since we've had intimations of a Choice he made with Hephaestus whose repercussions have yet to be fully explored. I'm betting he stowed away on the cleared out LOWAS.
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Apr 29, 2015 17:56
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Blackheart posted:Maybe he means that alternate John from when John retconned a scene he'd already been in (who also had retcon powers). He was told he was probably irrelevant now and we assume he'd just disappear, but we're not sure. Remember when we all thought Meenah's Girlfriend!Vriska was going to poof away after the retJohn? Hahahaha, good times, good times.
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Apr 29, 2015 18:05
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im glad that the vriska who looks like a Good Charlotte fan did not disappear, even if this fact makes the exact nature of the retcon very confusing.
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Apr 29, 2015 18:28
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The RetJohns don't affect the furthest ring/dreambubbles though. Everything that happened there STILL happened/happens/whatever. But like, so the meteor crew is hurtling through again right? So the retconned meteor crew doesn't get to meet Meenah right after she arrives in the dreambubbles, they don't get to have any of the exact conversations we've already seen them having. But I think it's fair to say, those already happened, between dreamghosts and now doomed versions of the meteor crew. When they go through the bubbles this time around, they are probably having different interactions with the ghosts. To what degree they mirror what originally happened, we can only speculate. Obviously, a doomed god tier Feferi still brings back the mayor. Was it the same Feferi at a different point on her personal timeline, or a different one entirely? We don't know, and I'm not sure it particularly matters. Lupus Rufus fucked around with this message at 18:44 on Apr 29, 2015 |
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Apr 29, 2015 18:42
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Renaissance Robot posted:Remember when we all thought Meenah's Girlfriend!Vriska was going to poof away after the retJohn? Whoever believed that was dumb.
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Apr 29, 2015 18:56
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Yeah AFAIK everything in the dream bubbles/furthest ring exists outside and independently of the timeline fuckery of the sessions, the only things that exist in multiple instances are things that traveled there from the sessions.
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Apr 29, 2015 19:24
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Lupus Rufus posted:The RetJohns don't affect the furthest ring/dreambubbles though. Everything that happened there STILL happened/happens/whatever. But like, so the meteor crew is hurtling through again right? So the retconned meteor crew doesn't get to meet Meenah right after she arrives in the dreambubbles, they don't get to have any of the exact conversations we've already seen them having. But I think it's fair to say, those already happened, between dreamghosts and now doomed versions of the meteor crew. When they go through the bubbles this time around, they are probably having different interactions with the ghosts. To what degree they mirror what originally happened, we can only speculate. Obviously, a doomed god tier Feferi still brings back the mayor. Was it the same Feferi at a different point on her personal timeline, or a different one entirely? I like to imagine that particular God-Tier Feferi with a queue of doomed meteors each waiting for her to revive their WV. It might matter a little regarding Aradia and Sollux, since I think their pre-RetJohn versions still exist as they were in the Furthest Ring at the time, meaning the Aradia and Sollux we saw in the Vriskagram flash would be another Aradia and Sollux. They've been deliberately avoiding taking part in the story until now anyway so it probably won't come up, but either of these Aradias or Solluxes would be perfectly valid versions of each character.
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Apr 29, 2015 19:55
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Dolash posted:They've been deliberately avoiding taking part in the story until now anyway so it probably won't come up, but either of these Aradias or Solluxes would be perfectly valid versions of each character. *Solluces
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Apr 29, 2015 19:57
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Lupus Rufus posted:When they go through the bubbles this time around, they are probably having different interactions with the ghosts. To what degree they mirror what originally happened, we can only speculate. As far as we know, Rose, Kanaya and Porrim didn't feed mechanical apples to a herd of robot horses the first time around.
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Apr 29, 2015 20:22
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mr. stefan posted:Yeah AFAIK everything in the dream bubbles/furthest ring exists outside and independently of the timeline fuckery of the sessions, the only things that exist in multiple instances are things that traveled there from the sessions. Yeah but we were led to believe that John's power was narrative fuckery rather than timeline fuckery, which is why he can change things without it causing paradoxes. That's why it was unclear if the changes he made would affect the dream bubbles or not. If his powers are not time-related and he just changes how the story goes, then it doesn't make sense for ghost-Vriska to still exist, so now I'm not sure what his powers are supposed to be. Unless the furthest ring exists outside of the narrative too, which I'm not sure I'm ready to wrap my head around 
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Suaimhneas posted:Yeah but we were led to believe that John's power was narrative fuckery rather than timeline fuckery, which is why he can change things without it causing paradoxes. That's why it was unclear if the changes he made would affect the dream bubbles or not. Well think of it like this. Paradox Space IS where the man writing the narrative lived.
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Apr 29, 2015 20:41
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MonsieurChoc posted:An excuse! To post this: Huh, Lil Cal is Buu, the being who consumes people and gains their abilities and personalities. 
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Apr 29, 2015 20:51
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paranoid randroid posted:*Solluces Solluxen
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Blackheart posted:Whoever believed that was dumb. Ha ha! Ha. Haaaa.  Lupus Rufus posted:The RetJohns don't affect the furthest ring/dreambubbles though. Everything that happened there STILL happened/happens/whatever. But like, so the meteor crew is hurtling through again right? So the retconned meteor crew doesn't get to meet Meenah right after she arrives in the dreambubbles, they don't get to have any of the exact conversations we've already seen them having. But I think it's fair to say, those already happened, between dreamghosts and now doomed versions of the meteor crew. When they go through the bubbles this time around, they are probably having different interactions with the ghosts. To what degree they mirror what originally happened, we can only speculate. Obviously, a doomed god tier Feferi still brings back the mayor. Was it the same Feferi at a different point on her personal timeline, or a different one entirely? Something I noticed in the Vriskagram animation is that Rose's first date with Kanaya happens before they meet the Beforan trolls in the bubbles, which is contrary to the sequence of events in A6I3. Since we know from Ministrife that multiple versions of the Beforan trolls exist in the dream bubbles, I'm leaning towards the theory that this instance of the meteor passed through different bubbles at different times, but occasionally crossed paths with the original bubbles, allowing Vriska to meet undercutghost!Vriska.
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Apr 29, 2015 21:58
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Tholluxthii reminder that Sollux's CANON name is Solluxander.
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Apr 29, 2015 21:59
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WAR FOOT posted:Much of Paradox Space has grown on me, like the cancerous tumor it is on the comic itself. Will we ever see part 2 of The Inaugural Death Of Mister Seven? That and the camping story are probably the highlights of the whole experiment, so it sucks that one was only part of a story rather than a whole.
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Apr 29, 2015 22:38
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SatansBestBuddy posted:Will we ever see part 2 of The Inaugural Death Of Mister Seven? That and the camping story are probably the highlights of the whole experiment, so it sucks that one was only part of a story rather than a whole. Paradox space hasn't updated in a while, assumedly because no one wants to be the one who follows the best comic on that site.
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Grapplejack posted:Paradox space hasn't updated in a while, assumedly because no one wants to be the one who follows the best comic on that site. Hussie explicitly said Paradox Space was going on hiatus. From the front page of MSPaint Adventures: quote:3) Paradox Space! 4/13 is the exact one year anniversary of its launch. And as HS resumes, PXS will be pausing for a good while. We actually paused production back in January, and have just been posting from a comic buffer since. This has much to do with shifting priorities heavily to gamedev needs, but I'll explain more about it and the future of PXS in a little while, on that site.
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