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Skwirl posted:Also, if it's a drone and not an actual cop, no police officer's life is in danger. Set phasers to stun?
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Skwirl posted:Also, if it's a drone and not an actual cop, no police officer's life is in danger. And so it's impossible to claim self-defense.
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Series DD Funding posted:And so it's impossible to claim self-defense. Knowing the police (I don't really know them) they would deputize the drone the same way they do to dogs. That way if you hit the drone you are striking a police officer or destroying public property or some poo poo like that.
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Series DD Funding posted:And so it's impossible to claim self-defense. The robbery necessitates a drone strike which puts cops in danger because of collateral damage or potential to target the wrong location, see, so the robbery is a threat against cops and requires lethal force.
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Apr 29, 2015 21:43
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mlmp08 posted:The robbery necessitates a drone strike which puts cops in danger because of collateral damage or potential to target the wrong location, see, so the robbery is a threat against cops and requires lethal force. Collateral damage could be to a Muslim owner of the convenience store. Is rand okay with him being killed by drone?
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I really can't wait until the first debate with Sanders and Clinton. Not to sound like a  but I really hope he gets equal air time in the debates.
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fuzz will never adopt drones wholesale because killing a man via remote-control cannot replicate the visceral thrill of strangling an asthmatic on live video or crushing a teenager's skull with your gunbutt.
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Enigma89 posted:I really can't wait until the first debate with Sanders and Clinton. Not to sound like a Think Kucinich 2008.
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Sir Tonk posted:Think Kucinich 2008. I miss him. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dOeaNN4DG2g Paul / Kucinich were the only decent options in 2008 IMO. e: Gravel was pretty good also. Enigma89 fucked around with this message at 21:59 on Apr 29, 2015 |
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Apr 29, 2015 21:55
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Tempest_56 posted:Direct quote: He's right. Stop  ing
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PupsOfWar posted:fuzz will never adopt drones wholesale because killing a man via remote-control cannot replicate the visceral thrill of strangling an asthmatic on live video or crushing a teenager's skull with your gunbutt. However, nobody is filming you when you murder someone with a drone.
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Apr 29, 2015 22:10
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FAUXTON posted:However, nobody is filming you when you murder someone with a drone. Every time I hear of a drone strike, I just imagine some neckbeard sitting in Langley with a coffee and a doughnut next to him and some suit patting the drone operator on the back after the missile hits.
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The Warszawa posted:Isn't Rand also pro-drone now? He's always been pro-drone, he's just upset of the shade a certain president has cast upon their current usage.
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Apparently Jeb's viral campaign has already begun down here in St. Thomas. I wonder if he knows the Virgin Islands can't vote in Presidential elections. 
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Apr 29, 2015 23:02
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Enigma89 posted:The problem is the US has been disconnecting itself so much from the evil poo poo it does (bombing weddings with drones) that it really disassociates people from what is happening No. This is wrong, Before that it was cruise missiles and before that it was a dude dropping a bomb from a couple miles up. And hell, when we did it with straight up a guy on the ground who had to get in firing range with a gun or rocket launcher it's not like we put him in charge of deciding who to kill. The generals and politicians who order poo poo haven't had to go and see it done personally in a good century plus.
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Lest we forget the legal foundation of "innocent until spotted leaving a liquor store with a wad of cash suspiciously."
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Slow Graffiti posted:Apparently Jeb's viral campaign has already begun down here in St. Thomas. I wonder if he knows the Virgin Islands can't vote in Presidential elections. The Virgin Islands caucuses are on March 12, 2016 when they will allocate nine delegates to the RNC.
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The issue with the drone vs police isn't who gets to kill the loving shoplifter. Assuming the best case scenario, hard with the police in this country I know, which one can take the suspect into custody? I have no loving clue how a drone can take a suspect non lethally, or without using force, a police officer can potentially do that. How many drones have successfully talked down an armed robber? A human presence, while being more dangerous perhaps to the police man, is a massive help in diffusing a violent situation rather than ending it violently.
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It's official. Bernie Sanders: "I am running for president"
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Why Won’t Rand Paul Tell the Truth About Trains?quote:During a radio interview yesterday, Senator Rand Paul weighed in on the ongoing unrest in Baltimore. “I came through the train on Baltimore last night,” the Kentucky Republican and 2016 presidential candidate told conservative radio host Laura Ingraham. Chuckling, he added, “I’m glad the train didn’t stop.” There’s just one problem with Sen. Paul’s account: Every train traveling through Baltimore that night stopped at Baltimore’s Pennsylvania Station.
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For reference, Vermont awards 27* of the 4,483 total available delegates to the DNC. * 23 delegates are awarded through the primary which is currently scheduled for March 1, though there is a bill to peg it to the NH primary which will likely fail. The four remaining delegates are Rep. Peter Welch, Senator Patrick Leahy, Governor Peter Shumlin, and former Governor Howard Dean, who is a delegate-for-life because he was DNC chair. Dean has already endorsed Hillary. The DNC rules state that any members of Congress who are Democrats are delegates at the DNC. Bernie's office clarified this week that, as far as his position in the Senate is concerned, he is still an independent and he has not served as a delegate at previous DNCs.
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remusclaw posted:The issue with the drone vs police isn't who gets to kill the loving shoplifter. Assuming the best case scenario, hard with the police in this country I know, which one can take the suspect into custody? I have no loving clue how a drone can take a suspect non lethally, or without using force, a police officer can potentially do that. How many drones have successfully talked down an armed robber? A human presence, while being more dangerous perhaps to the police man, is a massive help in diffusing a violent situation rather than ending it violently.
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So his lie is that he was too chicken to make a stop in Baltimore? I don't even see the benefit he got by saying that in the first place.
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Joementum posted:The Virgin Islands caucuses are on March 12, 2016 when they will allocate nine delegates to the RNC. Interesting, I didn't realize they allocated delegates whilst not being able to affect the general election. I'm still holding out hope that the license plate is in support of pubes, otherwise it's time for political electrolysis.
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remusclaw posted:The issue with the drone vs police isn't who gets to kill the loving shoplifter. Assuming the best case scenario, hard with the police in this country I know, which one can take the suspect into custody? I have no loving clue how a drone can take a suspect non lethally, or without using force, a police officer can potentially do that. How many drones have successfully talked down an armed robber? A human presence, while being more dangerous perhaps to the police man, is a massive help in diffusing a violent situation rather than ending it violently. You could load them with weighted nets. Probably cheaper than actually getting one loaded with a missile or working gun.
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Does the drone then proceed to reel him up and fly him to the police station?
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remusclaw posted:Does the drone then proceed to reel him up and fly him to the police station? No, it's a BatDrone - it leaves him there, tied up, for the cops to collect.
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Here's Mayor Bernie Sanders in 1988 talking about his ideal Presidential candidate.
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Joementum posted:Here's Mayor Bernie Sanders in 1988 talking about his ideal Presidential candidate. Just like a politician to describe himself.
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Joementum posted:Here's Mayor Bernie Sanders in 1988 talking about his ideal Presidential candidate. But Wall Street owns this country. Why does Bernie Sanders want a president who'll stand up for Wall Street?
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Slow Graffiti posted:Apparently Jeb's viral campaign has already begun down here in St. Thomas. I wonder if he knows the Virgin Islands can't vote in Presidential elections. Gonna take this as anti-waxing. He or she is not wrong.
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computer parts posted:During his work as a Senator he toed the line but he also literally went and volunteered to go teach poor Mexican kids who couldn't go to college because of their race. According to NPR http://www.npr.org/blogs/itsallpolitics/2015/04/11/395302391/5-things-you-should-know-about-hillary-clinton: 1) Hillary Clinton volunteered to provide free childcare for migrant laborers as a teenager. 2) provided free legal services to the poor while studying at Yale. 3) after moving to Arkansas she continued to donate legal expertise to the needy by confounding the Arkansas Advocates for Children and Families. She apparently also lead outreach to minority communities in her husbands first run for the Arkansas legislature and pounded the pavement personally to register blacks and Hispanics to vote. Is this where calling bill the "first black president" comes from? A targeted strategy at GOTV in minority communities?
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That, and he was a cool mofo that played Jazz. Also some stuff about fighting for their interests. Not too tough after Reagan et all brushed them aside completely.
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Joementum posted:Here's Mayor Bernie Sanders in 1988 talking about his ideal Presidential candidate. Pretty awesome. I can't really understand why anyone would bother with Hillary when you have someone like Sanders running.
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Yeah, it isn't hard to come off as a friend to minorities when the other guy spent a half century being a senile old shitter who insisted he wasn't racist while doing poo poo like kicking off his presidential campaign in Philadelphia, MS, by giving a speech about states' rights. My heart and the facts tell me Reagan was one racist old coot.
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Enigma89 posted:Pretty awesome. I can't really understand why anyone would bother with Hillary when you have someone like Sanders running. Because Sanders ain't gonna be in the actual election.
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Nintendo Kid posted:Because Sanders ain't gonna be in the actual election. As an aside, for all of us dying to 
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I hope only that Bernie is not going to try to go full Nader if (when) he does not win the primary. I have no opposition to pushing Hillary leftwards, of course, especially since she seems to be glancing that way already.
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FAUXTON posted:Yeah, it isn't hard to come off as a friend to minorities when the other guy spent a half century being a senile old shitter who insisted he wasn't racist while doing poo poo like kicking off his presidential campaign in Philadelphia, MS, by giving a speech about states' rights. Before he was senile he ran a campaign against the Fair Housing Act.
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