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PupsOfWar posted:Oh, don't worry, there will be at least one embarassing conservative democrat running. Not sure who it will be, just yet, but whoever it is will pick up some votes. Based on the last Illinois elections, homophobic blacks are becoming their own voting bloc.
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If I donate money to Sanders am I going to get a million political DNC emails until the end of time?
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Rubentum! Its catching on!quote:Based on new Public Policy Polling (PPP) data, Rubio received more support from Iowans than former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush, former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee, current Sen. Rand Paul of Kentucky and Sen. Ted Cruz of Texas. Rubio, however, lost first place to Gov. Scott Walker of Wisconsin. Walker received 23 percent of the poll about the Republican Party field, while Rubio received 13 percent and 12 percent for Bush. Huckabee accounted for 10 percent as the remaining GOP options received single-digit figures. http://www.latinpost.com/articles/50674/20150430/2016-presidential-election-polls-marco-rubio-improves-momentum-edges-jeb.htm
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Apr 30, 2015 16:23
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Radish posted:If I donate money to Sanders am I going to get a million political DNC emails until the end of time? You're not already?
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Apr 30, 2015 16:25
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Can Bernie run for president and also for reelection to the senate? If not, will his seat be at all competitive in 2016? I know VT is super liberal, but I've read that Jim Douglas is still popular there, and he seems moderate enough to maybe be the Scott Brown of Vermont.
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Apr 30, 2015 16:52
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Corrupt Politician posted:Can Bernie run for president and also for reelection to the senate? Yes. In fact, the Liberty Union party (which Bernie had a minor role in founding back in the 70s) regularly runs the same candidate for about a dozen different offices. edit: However, it should be noted that Bernie was re-elected to the Senate in 2012 and isn't up again until 2018. Joementum fucked around with this message at 16:59 on Apr 30, 2015 |
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Apr 30, 2015 16:56
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joeburz posted:sanders pet project is full communism Poe or  ?
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Apr 30, 2015 16:56
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Radish posted:If I donate money to Sanders am I going to get a million political DNC emails until the end of time? donate in cash at your local Bernie For America field office
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Apr 30, 2015 17:05
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I want a Bernie burger.
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Apr 30, 2015 17:06
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Maybe it's a collaborative effort to provide cover for Hillary as she swerves left to win the primary, so that she can point to Sanders and tell the big money that she had to say all that stuff so she could win the primary.
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Apr 30, 2015 17:10
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I'm enjoying all the formerly-bernie-liking Greens on my facebook spontaneously abandoning him now that he is registered with a party
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Apr 30, 2015 17:10
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Radish posted:If I donate money to Sanders am I going to get a million political DNC emails until the end of time? Make a 2nd gmail account and donate with that.
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Apr 30, 2015 17:12
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PupsOfWar posted:donate in cash at your local Bernie For America field office Most presidential campaigns don't accept donations at their field offices. But yes, most likely if you donate your information will eventually be rented to other Dems to pay off campaign debt. Such is life.
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Apr 30, 2015 17:14
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Enigma89 posted:Make a 2nd gmail account and donate with that. Or just make a gmail filter to instantly trash everything containing the word DNC.
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Apr 30, 2015 17:15
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joeburz posted:sanders pet project is full communism democratic full communism Leviathan Song posted:Found the article I was looking for: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1311313/Glue-guns-will-help-police-to-quell-violent-protesters.html Actually I was responding mostly to the use of tranquilizer darts, which do not work like the movies might have you think.
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Apr 30, 2015 17:16
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hoo boy Bernie Sanders, y'all
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Apr 30, 2015 17:18
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I have a private email server, like my lord and savior HRC.
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Apr 30, 2015 17:31
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Raskolnikov38 posted:Or just make a gmail filter to instantly trash everything containing the word DNC. what if i miss out on my run dnc tickets from ticketmaster
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Apr 30, 2015 17:33
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Best quote I've ever heard quote:"I respect the courts, but the Supreme Court is only that -- the supreme of the courts. It is not the supreme being. It cannot overrule God. When it comes to prayer, when it comes to life, and when it comes to the sanctity of marriage, the court cannot change what God has created. Somebody's got to be willing to take on the institutions that challenge and threaten our ability to believe as we believe, because when religious liberty is lost, all liberty is lost. I do not come to you tonight with the ability to speak Spanish. But I do speak a common language: I speak Jesus." - Mike Huckabee, addressing the National Hispanic Christian Leadership Conference.
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Apr 30, 2015 17:36
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Enigma89 posted:Whatever, I donated to a dove. My conscience is clear. Hopefully he trounces Hillary but even I will admit it may not happen; a lot of war enthusiasts in the US.
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Apr 30, 2015 17:39
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Nessus posted:For a dove, you seem pretty enthusiastic about a Republican attacking Iran (any Republican will attack Iran at this point) What??? I think I am the only one here that has consistently refuses to vote for hawks. I didn't vote for Obama, Romney, McCain, etc. Enigma89 fucked around with this message at 17:54 on Apr 30, 2015 |
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Apr 30, 2015 17:50
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Enigma89 posted:What??? I think I am the only one here that has consistently refuses to vote for hawks. I didn't vote for Obama, Romney, McCain, etc. Yet you think Ron Paul is a dove.
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Enigma89 posted:What??? I think I am the only one here that has consistently refuses to vote for hawks. I didn't vote for Obama, Romney, McCain, etc. You know the old phrase "neutrality is a support of the status quo"?
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Apr 30, 2015 17:56
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i think the implication is that a vote for bernie is a vote wasted and thus a vote for a repulican
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Apr 30, 2015 17:56
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A vote for Bernie in the primary doesn't take away from Hillary in the general, just saying.
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Apr 30, 2015 17:57
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Enigma89 posted:What??? I think I am the only one here that has consistently refuses to vote for hawks. I didn't vote for Obama, Romney, McCain, etc. If it happens in the general, of course, we go to war with Iran. If it happens in the primary I would be greatly surprised. I don't think Bernie Sanders can win a national election. I imagine if Hillary got hit by a bus there would be desperate rallying behind Biden or maybe Cory Booker. FAUXTON posted:A vote for Bernie in the primary doesn't take away from Hillary in the general, just saying.
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Here's a informative section about Martin O'Malley in this interview of David Simon:quote:The drug war began it, certainly, but the stake through the heart of police procedure in Baltimore was Martin O’Malley3. He destroyed police work in some real respects. Whatever was left of it when he took over the police department, if there were two bricks together that were the suggestion of an edifice that you could have called meaningful police work, he found a way to pull them apart. Everyone thinks I’ve got a hard-on for Marty because we battled over “The Wire,” whether it was bad for the city, whether we’d be filming it in Baltimore. But it’s been years, and I mean, that’s over. I shook hands with him on the train last year and we buried it. And, hey, if he's the Democratic nominee, I’m going to end up voting for him. It’s not personal and I admire some of his other stances on the death penalty and gay rights. But to be honest, what happened under his watch as Baltimore’s mayor was that he wanted to be governor. And at a certain point, with the crime rate high and with his promises of a reduced crime rate on the line, he put no faith in real policing. https://www.themarshallproject.org/2015/04/29/david-simon-on-baltimore-s-anguish
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Apr 30, 2015 17:59
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So because he is willing to use private sources to deal with issues abroad makes him not a dove?
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Enigma89 posted:So because he is willing to use private sources to deal with issues abroad makes him not a dove? If he's willing to deploy PMCs to gently caress poo poo up abroad instead of deploying the US military, then no, he is not a dove.
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Apr 30, 2015 18:03
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Jerry Manderbilt posted:If he's willing to deploy PMCs to gently caress poo poo up abroad instead of deploying the US military, then no, he is not a dove. Yeah I completely disagree with that. If we absolutely have to send people abroad, I don't care if its private or military. Pretty sure it's safe to say that Ron Paul would of been one of the last people willing to send (private or military) abroad. Agree to disagree I guess.
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Apr 30, 2015 18:04
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Enigma89 posted:So because he is willing to use private sources to deal with issues abroad makes him not a dove? Yes, wanting to enforce american hegemony using unaccountable mercenary thugs makes him not a dove.
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Apr 30, 2015 18:06
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PupsOfWar posted:Yes, wanting to enforce american hegemony using unaccountable mercenary thugs makes him not a dove.
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Apr 30, 2015 18:08
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Enigma89 posted:So because he is willing to use private sources to deal with issues abroad makes him not a dove? Happily supporting mercenaries its the very opposite of dovish.
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Apr 30, 2015 18:10
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PupsOfWar posted:Yes, wanting to enforce american hegemony using unaccountable mercenary thugs makes him not a dove. Why do you assume they are unaccountable? You guys do realize that Clinton backed up Blackwater for a while as well? e: I have to run to work. Will check back later.
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Apr 30, 2015 18:11
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Enigma89 posted:Why do you assume they are unaccountable? Well I imagine any entity that can get away with the rape and mutilation of one of it's employees makes them a tinge unaccountable.
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Apr 30, 2015 18:14
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Enigma89 posted:Why do you assume they are unaccountable? Because they are mercenaries that don't even have to be based in America, under Ron Paul's plan, and thus quite easily unaccountable to US law entirely.
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Apr 30, 2015 18:16
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PupsOfWar posted:I'm enjoying all the formerly-bernie-liking Greens on my facebook spontaneously abandoning him now that he is registered with a party The Green Party is somehow more obsessed with ideological purity than the Tea Party.
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Apr 30, 2015 18:25
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Bernie was functionally a Democrat in every way, he just kept the I for symbolic reasons. The DSCC even followed their policy of trying to stop primary challenges of incumbent Senators with Bernie. That is not the greens being ideologically pure, Bernie didn't change any positions, it is just them clinging to their "outsider" label and being pedantic and ineffective. TheAmericanLeft.txt
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I guess we'll see who else declares in the Democratic primary. Were I American, I'd consider campaigning as hard and as to the left of Clinton as possible, just to try and gin up interest in those issues, before voting for her in the general. It seems to "work" in the Republican primary, in that the hard right wing gets to weigh the scales and force their "moderate" candidates into a bunch of conservative positions, although they tend to go so hard that it actually damages their electability. The left is pretty far from being that influential though so it should probably be safe to press Hillary as much as possible and at most eke out a few progressive promises. It'll actually be interesting to see how Hillary's platform has adapted with the times even before the primary starts shaping it, a lot of things have changed under Obama's tenure and topics like healthcare, gay marriage, net neutrality, negotiations with Iran and so on have altered the landscape. No one would say a Clinton can't be flexible to get elected.
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