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Vox Nihili: May 28, 2008

Vienna Circlejerk posted:

Concern over Hillary's left wing purity has got to be the whitest malest thing ever, goddamn.

Those stupid white males and their insane insistence on left-wing candidates, right? What even goes on in someone's mind to make a statement like that?

# ? May 1, 2015 21:28

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# ? May 15, 2024 10:55

Ignite Memories: Feb 27, 2005

FWIW it's a really quality bear, super kid-safe, sewed in vt and the warranty on that thing essentially lasts forever. I used to work at that factory and they're all super awesome folks, so let's not give the VTB guys a hard time.

# ? May 1, 2015 21:30

HUGE PUBES A PLUS: Apr 30, 2005

Joementum posted:

The Vermont Teddy Bear Company wasted no time, naturally.

Something something why compare Bernie Sanders to Ron Paul.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/05/01/politics/bernie-sanders-fundraising/index.html

quote:

Windfall at Bernie's: Sanders raises $1.5 million in 24 hours

Washington (CNN)Bernie Sanders' nascent presidential campaign announced Friday that it raised more than $1.5 million in its first 24 hours, a number that far outpaces what Republican presidential hopefuls posted in their first day.

Sanders, the independent senator from Vermont who caucuses with Democrats, kicked off his dark horse campaign for the Democratic nomination on Thursday with an email to supporters and a press conference outside the U.S. Capitol. Since then, more than 100,000 people signed up for the campaign and 35,000 people donated money, according to a campaign press release.

The average donation was $43.54.

"This is a remarkable start for Bernie's campaign," said Tad Devine, the campaign's senior adviser. "People across America are yearning for authentic leadership that tells them the truth about what is holding back our nation. Bernie Sanders understands the problems we face."

Sanders' 24-hour fundraising haul puts him ahead of what every currently declared Republican presidential hopeful posted in their first day.

Kentucky Sen. Rand Paul's campaign announced that it had raised $800,000 a day in. Texas Sen. Ted Cruz's campaign raised $1 million in the first 24-hours of its existence. And Florida Sen. Marco Rubio's campaign raised $1.25 million in its first day.

The only other Democrat in the race -- former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton -- did not announce what her campaign raised in its first 24 hours and declined to do so on Friday.

Sanders is an outspoken critic of the proliferation of big money in politics. He regularly rails against the Koch Brothers, the Republican uber-donors, and has said that his campaign would be devoid of "billionaires."

At the bottom of his website, underneath the required phrase "Paid For By Bernie 2016," his website proclaims, "Not The Billionaires."

"I don't believe that the men and women who defended American democracy fought to create a situation where billionaires own the political process," Sanders said at his announcement press conference. "That's a huge issue."

In the lead-up to his presidential campaign, Sanders and his aides openly worried about whether he would be able to raise the money needed to mount a serious challenge to what will certainly be a well-funded Clinton campaign.

"To run a credible campaign in this day and age, you do need a whole lot of money," Sanders said. "Whether the magic number is $200 million, or it is $150 million, it is a lot of money, but even with that, you would be enormously outspent by the Koch Brother candidates and the other candidates who will likely spend, in the final analysis, over $1 billion, if not two."

You know who else raised money that fast. :evil:

# ? May 1, 2015 21:52

Series DD Funding: Nov 25, 2014; by exmarx

Evil Fluffy posted:

Right, because in 2014 there definitely weren't some bullshit voter purges in places like Georgia.
http://projects.aljazeera.com/2014/double-voters/challenging-crosscheck.html

You're right though, the GOP won't engage in voter suppression because in your alternate reality it's not something they've engaged in for years.

Yes, there was a bipartisan effort to verify the voting rolls. Feel free to show the evidence that it stopped significant numbers of people from voting and changed the outcome of any elections.

# ? May 1, 2015 22:21

Joementum: May 23, 2004; jesus christ

ComradeCosmobot posted:

On the other hand...

Good to know. I'm glad someone's polling on that now.

# ? May 1, 2015 22:27

HUGE PUBES A PLUS: Apr 30, 2005

From fivethirtyeight

# ? May 1, 2015 22:42

McAlister: Nov 3, 2002; by exmarx

Vienna Circlejerk posted:

Oh, sure, I'm going to take people seriously when they say she's virtually identical to GWB

It's even funnier when they then assert she has an eeebil right wing agenda whereas GWB was a puppet.

Although even if all you know about politics is that Bill Clinton erased the deficit through raising taxes on the rich and GWB cut those taxes leading to record deficits, and Hillary clinton wants to put those taxes back on the rich ...

That's a huuuuge difference in priorities and policy.

# ? May 1, 2015 22:47

Jerry Manderbilt: May 31, 2012; No matter how much paperwork I process, it never goes away. It only increases.

Never a bad time to go "jesus look at that massive gap between the Pauls' public statement and voting record scores".

# ? May 1, 2015 22:47

DaveWoo: Aug 14, 2004; Fun Shoe

ComradeCosmobot posted:

On the other hand...

Looking at the favorability numbers from that poll, I'd say that they seem to support Joementum's point:

# ? May 1, 2015 22:48

Joementum: May 23, 2004; jesus christ

DaveWoo posted:

Looking at the favorability numbers from that poll, I'd say that they seem to support Joementum's point:

Well, the original point was about voter enthusiasm, so it's good to have number on that too.

It's still way, waaaaay to early for any of that polling to matter. Most people don't tune into the election until after Labor Day.

# ? May 1, 2015 22:51

Series DD Funding: Nov 25, 2014; by exmarx

McAlister posted:

It's even funnier when they then assert she has an eeebil right wing agenda whereas GWB was a puppet.

Although even if all you know about politics is that Bill Clinton erased the deficit through raising taxes on the rich and GWB cut those taxes leading to record deficits, and Hillary clinton wants to put those taxes back on the rich ...

That's a huuuuge difference in priorities and policy.

Someone making over 400k per year is going to be paying more taxes in 2015 than they were in 2000 :ssh:

# ? May 1, 2015 22:51

Joementum: May 23, 2004; jesus christ

Pretty sure Bud ain't Paleo kosher.

# ? May 1, 2015 22:53

Sheng-Ji Yang: Mar 5, 2014

http://www.cnn.com/2015/05/01/politics/bernie-sanders-fundraising/

quote:

Washington (CNN) - Bernie Sanders' nascent presidential campaign announced Friday that it raised more than $1.5 million in its first 24 hours, a number that far outpaces what Republican presidential hopefuls posted in their first day.

Sanders, the independent senator from Vermont who caucuses with Democrats, kicked off his dark horse campaign for the Democratic nomination on Thursday with an email to supporters and a press conference outside the U.S. Capitol. Since then, more than 100,000 people signed up for the campaign and 35,000 people donated money, according to a campaign press release.

The average donation was $43.54.

"This is a remarkable start for Bernie's campaign," said Tad Devine, the campaign's senior adviser. "People across America are yearning for authentic leadership that tells them the truth about what is holding back our nation. Bernie Sanders understands the problems we face."

efb

# ? May 1, 2015 23:39

Nonsense: Jan 26, 2007

Hillary is refusing to release her numbers knowing the majority are from billionaires and financial institutions liberals hate.

# ? May 1, 2015 23:40

Joementum: May 23, 2004; jesus christ

# ? May 1, 2015 23:46

Spun Dog: Sep 21, 2004; Smellrose

Joementum posted:

"Cooter takes instruction from Boss Hogg"

# ? May 1, 2015 23:48

Scrub-Niggurath: Nov 27, 2007

Joementum posted:

Pretty sure Bud ain't Paleo kosher.

How else can he be the candidate I can have a beer with?

# ? May 2, 2015 00:04

DaveWoo: Aug 14, 2004; Fun Shoe

I love POLITICO headlines sometimes:

"He's just a little mired in scandal! He's still good, he's still good!"

# ? May 2, 2015 00:19

Sir Tonk: Apr 18, 2006; Young Orc

mlmp08 posted:

I'm pumped about both, but only for the sake of humorous stuff happening.

That's why I liked having Paul around, fair enough.

# ? May 2, 2015 00:54

Vienna Circlejerk: Jan 28, 2003; The great science sausage party!

Looks like we can't count out Kasich. I hate this rear end in a top hat so much. I'm hoping that trying to run as a moderate kills him in the primary, because I think he could actually have a shot in the general.

# ? May 2, 2015 01:16

Full Battle Rattle: Aug 29, 2009; As long as the times refuse to change, we're going to make a hell of a racket.

Nonsense posted:

Hillary is refusing to release her numbers knowing the majority are from billionaires and financial institutions liberals hate.

God, what a ridiculous concept. Of course Hilary's a big money candidate - you need an ungodly amount of money to win an election. I wonder what the cost of being outed as a millionaire with a conscience would be. People might mistake you for human? If anything I suspect they'd be more embarrassed than she is.

# ? May 2, 2015 01:23

Under the vegetable: Nov 2, 2004; by Smythe

Haha you think a millionaire can have a conscience.

# ? May 2, 2015 01:29

root beer: Nov 13, 2005

Vienna Circlejerk posted:

Looks like we can't count out Kasich. I hate this rear end in a top hat so much. I'm hoping that trying to run as a moderate kills him in the primary, because I think he could actually have a shot in the general.

I feel utterly indifferent about Kasich myself. Of course, that would change dramatically if he really does make an impact on the national stage. But if the Democrats actually ran a decent candidate last November, would Kasich have gotten the results he did? FitzGerald was just such a lousy candidate, dead in the water well before Election Day. And would that really translate well to a presidential election? Could he really even differentiate himself from the other bland, sort of lacking-in-personality Midwest governors in the running?

# ? May 2, 2015 01:44

Killer robot: Sep 6, 2010; I was having the most wonderful dream. I think you were in it!; Pillbug

Vox Nihili posted:

Those stupid white males and their insane insistence on left-wing candidates, right? What even goes on in someone's mind to make a statement like that?

Affluent white males might be a smaller proportion of left wing circles than they are of right-wing ones, but they're if anything more willing to insist they need to do the negotiating on behalf of and for the good of the rest.

# ? May 2, 2015 01:47

remusclaw: Dec 8, 2009

As opposed to the many noted minority leaders on the side of the Right?

# ? May 2, 2015 01:53

tatankatonk: Nov 4, 2011; Pitching is the art of instilling fear.

On which positions is Hillary Clinton to the political left of Barack Obama?

# ? May 2, 2015 02:05

TEAYCHES: Jun 23, 2002

She was to the left of him on healthcare during the primaries.

# ? May 2, 2015 02:08

Vox Nihili: May 28, 2008

Killer robot posted:

Affluent white males might be a smaller proportion of left wing circles than they are of right-wing ones, but they're if anything more willing to insist they need to do the negotiating on behalf of and for the good of the rest.

So basically these white male interlopers should step aside and let the oppressed minorities select their true champion, Hillary Clinton? This seems like some tumblr-level discourse.

# ? May 2, 2015 02:26

SousaphoneColossus: Feb 16, 2004; There are a million reasons to ruin things.

TEAYCHES posted:

She was to the left of him on healthcare during the primaries.

What was the difference between her and his health care platform apart from her support of the individual mandate?

# ? May 2, 2015 02:36

Nonsense: Jan 26, 2007

Hillary will fight for a public option, maybe. Bernie will fight for a public option, for sure. In either case I just want them to fight for it. Even if it loses.

# ? May 2, 2015 02:38

Killer robot: Sep 6, 2010; I was having the most wonderful dream. I think you were in it!; Pillbug

Vox Nihili posted:

So basically these white male interlopers should step aside and let the oppressed minorities select their true champion, Hillary Clinton? This seems like some tumblr-level discourse.

Misses both the initial statement and its point. More like, let them vote for who they want. I mean, I love the idea of picking the ideal or going home, rather than settling for the lesser evil. At the same time, while it's not as dumb as accelerationism, it's still similar how it's most popular with people comfortable enough that if it goes badly there are lots of people under them to cushion the fall.

# ? May 2, 2015 02:59

VitalSigns: Sep 3, 2011

Under the vegetable posted:

Voting for Hillary based solely on her genitals instead of politics is the whitest most class privileged thing ever.

Those drat wimminz voting based solely on genitals, they're the reason VP Palin has been a heartbeat away from the nuclear launch codes for six years.

# ? May 2, 2015 03:11