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I'm not really sure why it has to be black and white. Kickstarter can allow for the publication and funding of games that wouldn't actually have gotten funded and be used by exploitative developers who are abusing the system. It isn't really a case where it has to be all-in on one or the other.
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I said come in! posted:Except i've already pointed out examples of how this isn't true, thus proving that the Kickstarter idea is probably manipulative bullshit. Games like Journey, and Tokyo Jungle are far more unique then anything that's been backed by Kickstarter and both were published by Sony, a massive multi-billion dollar corporation that operates globally. In fact most Kickstarter titles have been pretty generic, and that's probably why the big publishers weren't interested. If you need more examples then look at Transistor, a game that was self published and had no kickstarter. So your argument is that two games were made by small second-party devs for Sony and therefore Shovel Knight manipulated and lied to us and every game done from kickstarter is boring and shouldn't have been made? Alternatively gently caress poor people if they can't fund their own video games? ImpAtom posted:I'm not really sure why it has to be black and white. This is pretty much it. Do whatever you want with the money, just check to make sure the devs actually know what they're doing and aren't trying to pull a fast one on people.
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Andrast posted:Again, do you really think Pillars of Eternity or Shadowrun would exist without kickstarter? Both fantastic games in a genre that was pretty much dead before kickstarter. You don't get it, there are a couple of examples of interesting games that have been published by big publishers therefore the existing publishing process is exactly perfect as is and there's no need for anything else beyond it. Obvously people who chose to purchase games that came from Kickstarter are just mindless sheep dancing to the strings of big evil businesses like Obsidian, and if they were intelligent they would use that money to pre-order mega hits by benevolent AAA developing corporations like Ubisoft and Acitivision.
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May 2, 2015 22:01
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Cool, two full pages without a taint reaper post and reading this poo poo is actually worse. I don't care how the money got there, I'm just happy Yooka Laylee is going to exist and I look forward to playing it in 2018.
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May 2, 2015 22:08
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I said come in! posted:Except i've already pointed out examples of how this isn't true, thus proving that the Kickstarter idea is probably manipulative bullshit. Games like Journey, and Tokyo Jungle are far more unique then anything that's been backed by Kickstarter and both were published by Sony, a massive multi-billion dollar corporation that operates globally. In fact most Kickstarter titles have been pretty generic, and that's probably why the big publishers weren't interested. If you need more examples then look at Transistor, a game that was self published and had no kickstarter. Are you seriously that dense? Or are you a taint reaper alt account?
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May 2, 2015 22:12
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ArmyOfMidgets posted:So your argument is that two games were made by small second-party devs for Sony and therefore Shovel Knight manipulated and lied to us and every game done from kickstarter is boring and shouldn't have been made? Alternatively gently caress poor people if they can't fund their own video games? Your guys own argument is that no big publisher releases unique games because there's no enough money in that, they are only interested in AAA titles like Call of Duty. Are titles like Flower, Tokyo Jungle, and Journey not unique? Correct me if i'm wrong about this. What about the UBISoft Art studio that makes small indie budget titles? And what's the criteria then if two games is not enough? Let me know how many I need to list, but I mean you only came up with two examples yourself. So I don't see what the problem is. Also, the games you listed, were not made by poor people.
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May 2, 2015 22:19
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I said come in! posted:Your guys own argument is that no big publisher releases unique games because there's no enough money in that, they are only interested in AAA titles like Call of Duty. Are titles like Flower, Tokyo Jungle, and Journey not unique? Correct me if i'm wrong about this. What about the UBISoft Art studio that makes small indie budget titles? And what's the criteria then if two games is not enough? Let me know how many I need to list, but I mean you only came up with two examples yourself. So I don't see what the problem is. jivjov posted:Are you seriously that dense? Or are you a taint reaper alt account?
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May 2, 2015 22:21
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Why does it make you so mad that some people want to play games that publishers refuse to develop and are willing to pay their own money to do so? Are you invested in EA or something?
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May 2, 2015 22:22
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Wii U General Discussion - the great Kickstarter debate
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May 2, 2015 22:23
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Adam Bowen posted:Why does it make you so mad that some people want to play games that publishers refuse to develop and are willing to pay their own money to do so? Are you invested in EA or something? Amen to this
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May 2, 2015 22:24
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All I'm saying is that if Da Vinci was so smart, all his work should have paid for itself - artists having patronage just proves their poo poo isn't worth making. The market has spoken all hail Rand.
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May 2, 2015 22:30
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May 2, 2015 22:32
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Regy Rusty posted:How are you enjoying your new Nintendo Wii U? oh my god. it is the best console i have ever owned. i truly mean that. mario kart 8 is wonderful. ive not had this much fun with game racing since burnout. and the gamepad is a bit of a revelation. i love being able to play games on it without the tv needing to be around. i wish i'd gotten it, and played the various nintendo games ive missed out on over the years, sooner. (Metroid NES is tough as balls, but so much fun! As is NSMBwii! i feel like im playing Mario 3 for the first time again) i am gushing over this
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I said come in! posted:Except i've already pointed out examples of how this isn't true, thus proving that the Kickstarter idea is probably manipulative bullshit. Games like Journey, and Tokyo Jungle are far more unique then anything that's been backed by Kickstarter and both were published by Sony, a massive multi-billion dollar corporation that operates globally. In fact most Kickstarter titles have been pretty generic, and that's probably why the big publishers weren't interested. If you need more examples then look at Transistor, a game that was self published and had no kickstarter. there's no spectrum of more or less unique hth
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May 2, 2015 22:37
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Rebuying a Wii U today with MK8 and SMW3D.
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James Woods Fan posted:Rebuying a Wii U today with MK8 and SMW3D. This is the worst kickstarter pitch I've ever seen. Enjoy having the device with the funnest games!
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May 2, 2015 22:43
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The Wii U is a great console and the gamepad screen is amazing. You really can't appreciate how nice it is to have off TV play until you try it. Windwaker HD is beautiful and a big improvement over the original in pretty much all ways. Mario Kart 8 and Smash are both extremely fun games to play with friends or online. I love my Wii U and I love discussing it in the Wii U general discussion thread on the Something Awful forums.
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May 2, 2015 22:45
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James Woods Fan posted:Rebuying a Wii U today with MK8 and SMW3D.  Nintendo is King
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James Woods Fan posted:Rebuying a Wii U today with MK8 and SMW3D. What ya mean "rebuying", fella? That would imply ya sold yer U at some point an' we don't take yer kind 'round these here parts. Isn't that right, boys?
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May 2, 2015 23:02
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First 4 Cups, all Gold place medals on 50cc! loving hell that special cup took a while thanks to blue and red shells! i love my wiiu
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Saoshyant posted:What ya mean "rebuying", fella? That would imply ya sold yer U at some point an' we don't take yer kind 'round these here parts. Isn't that right, boys? All Wii U owners are welcome because we are a cute bunch.
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May 2, 2015 23:07
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Yoshi's Woolly World is a game that everyone should buy or at least buy the Woolly Amiibo.
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May 2, 2015 23:37
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Jarogue posted:Yoshi's Woolly World is a game that everyone should buy or at least buy the Woolly Amiibo. I will buy it, if the gameplay is enjoyable, and not for any other reason.
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May 2, 2015 23:38
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I backed the ukulele because one farty 3D collectathon every 18 years is about what I'd like
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I said come in! posted:I'm gonna buy the Mario Kart 8 DLC, finally. It's really good.
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VideoGames posted:First 4 Cups, all Gold place medals on 50cc! loving hell that special cup took a while thanks to blue and red shells! I'd say you're ready to go 200cc for the rest of the cups now. Go for it! Jarogue posted:Yoshi's Woolly World is a game that everyone should buy or at least buy the Woolly Amiibo. I'm just paying close attention to that game. I want it but Yoshi has a pretty rough history with games, so I want to wait 'till it's out and people have opinions on its gameplay before committing, that said it looks great and fun so far and my girlfriend adores the aesthetic so here's hoping it's really worth getting.
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May 3, 2015 00:36
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I played Woolly World last year and unless they hosed it up since then, the game will be great.
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ImpAtom posted:I'm not really sure why it has to be black and white. The guy saying that "no, you're not REALLY spending money out of your own free will you're feeding into The Man" is pretty funny though.
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Dear God what have I started
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Katana Gomai posted:Dear God what have I started -Yooka-Laylee backers in 2016
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codenameFANGIO posted:-Yooka-Laylee backers in 2016 those people have no sense of good and evil
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May 3, 2015 01:16
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We're Beyond good and evil. Which, should be getting a spiritual succesor kickstarter any time now after Ubisoft almost certainly poo poo cans it's sequel.
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Your Dead Gay Son posted:Should I get hyrule warriors Have you played Dynasty Warriors before? If not, it's a great intro to the series and one of it's best, and it's just jam-packed with content even before you get into the DLC. I kind of regret getting the DLC simply because I'm never even going to get around to it. If you have played Dynasty Warriors a lot, you might be dynasty warrirored out. But it's a really fun, weird kind of beat em up/tower defense game, packed to the brim with fanservice(both kinds of fanservice).
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Your Dead Gay Son posted:Should I get hyrule warriors Do you like Dynasty Warriors, Zelda, or mashing buttons to watch hundreds of monsters fly away from your attacks? If you like at least two, then yes.
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May 3, 2015 01:25
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No one is ever finished with Hyrule Warriors. This is ok.
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greatn posted:Have you played Dynasty Warriors before? If not, it's a great intro to the series and one of it's best, and it's just jam-packed with content even before you get into the DLC. I kind of regret getting the DLC simply because I'm never even going to get around to it. If you have played Dynasty Warriors a lot, you might be dynasty warrirored out. What you meant to post was "Yes" and then the rest of us could just emptyquote you
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Yes this all sounds excellent.
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Gamefly is sending me Hyrule Warriors. What is the best mode?
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