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I think people are forgetting that the reason graduates leave is that there is literally nothing for the hear in the first place. But hey costly debt collection is way easier than providing a society and economy that has a place for them.
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trunkh posted:I think people are forgetting that the reason graduates leave is that there is literally nothing for the hear in the first place. But hey costly debt collection is way easier than providing a society and economy that has a place for them. It's a two for one deal, you go to another country where you can get a job and as an added bonus you get out of paying HECS.
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IMO the government should take Israel's approach and send spies around the world to abduct hecs criminals and bring them to justice in Australia.
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gay picnic defence posted:Are the property taxes introduced in Victoria and the crackdown on illegal property purchases likely to cool the housing market much? Seems like they could in theory by encouraging new construction and putting a number of extra houses back on the market but I don't know enough about real estate to know if there are other factors that will come into play. no. it's a useless initiative designed to pin the housing bubble on the yellow peril instead of the anointed generation
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Negligent posted:Just add a box on the incoming passenger card: do you have a hecs debt y/n? Yeah because people would never ever choose the wrong box on purpose and then just get let in.
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gay picnic defence posted:Are the property taxes introduced in Victoria and the crackdown on illegal property purchases likely to cool the housing market much? Seems like they could in theory by encouraging new construction and putting a number of extra houses back on the market but I don't know enough about real estate to know if there are other factors that will come into play. No. There's too much money involved for Real Estate agents and others in the industry - everyone is ALREADY breaking the rules and didn't know or didn't care. It's a way for the Tony Abbott to appear to be doing something about house prices, without impacting house prices, against a group of people that no voters care about (foreign buyers), without actually doing anything to lower house prices or impact negative gearing. They are increasing the costs for a crime no one has been prosecuted for, or mealy adding a small bribe cost to continue to do so.
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Negligent posted:How many people would be prepared to never come back to Australia just to ditch their hecs? If the government wants to give me back my hecs and then ask me to leave I'm totally okay with that.
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quote:Progress15 has collected busloads of Leftist speakers for a conference in Melbourne of “changemakers” to fight for “progress” on global warming, boat people and the usual roll-call of Leftist causes. Bolt from the blue
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Australia actually already has treaties in place with multiple other countries in regards to sharing of taxation information (see: http://www.treasury.gov.au/Policy-Topics/Taxation/Tax-Treaties/HTML/Income-Tax-Treaties and http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/cth/consol_act/itaa1953299/) but I"m not sure exactly what recourse is available to the Australian Government aside from sending you demanding letters and arresting you for tax evasion if you were to ever re-enter Australia. They could change the treaties to allow overseas enforcement, but that'd require having multiple countries agree to enforce HECS repayments for the Australian Government. I doubt it'd bring in the $140mil to the budget Pyne says it will, but even if they do manage to start collecting that much from graduates who've relocated overseas it isn't going to budget, but instead is being used to pay off the HECS debt (which the Government, I believe, has down as an asset). Instead of going after tax evading multinationals, they'll portray those evil graduate leeches who dared to abandon mother Australia. Lets just ignore the fact that there's very little to hold graduates here in the first place and not give them incentive to actually want to stay and work here. CrazyTolradi fucked around with this message at 04:54 on May 3, 2015 |
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May 3, 2015 04:25
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When a court order is made against you in relation to a debt one of the things that can happen is that your income gets taken. Either your employer pays directly against your debt, or any investments you have, whatever, a proportion gets taken. Could most easily be applied if for example you work for a multinational that does business in Australia.
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Vladimir Poutine posted:Bolt from the blue That's hilarious. How low do you have to sink before you start demonising domestic violence campaigners? Jesus Christ. And LOL at  ACADEMIA . Why bother to research or study anything when you just just pull opinions out of your rear end?
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I'm the “human rights"extremist.
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quote:domestic violence campaigner and Greens supporter Rosie Battie Haha, classic Bolt.
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GDI Tink, you missed a prime pun opportunity. It should be Auspol May: First Dog on the Goon
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Neither of those things are in themselves pejorative it's just that Andrew Bolt knows his audience.
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"Domestic violence is good, actually" - Andy Bolt
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loving radical leftists with their loving anti domestic violence agenda
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domestic violence campaigner is just a euphemism for hysterical feminist
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Negligent posted:When a court order is made against you in relation to a debt one of the things that can happen is that your income gets taken. Either your employer pays directly against your debt, or any investments you have, whatever, a proportion gets taken. To be honest, they wouldn't bother doing that. They'd change legislation to make it so that not repaying HECS while overseas and earning over the $53k per annum mark would be a form of tax evasion, in which place Australia does have the ability to recover monies via some nations taxation systems. Failing that they could then have you extradited for tax evasion, or simply arrest you on return to Australia. The irony of this is that it'd likely cost a lot more in government monies to chase this up then they'd actually recover, similar to how the ATO says charging GST on goods costing <$1000 purchased overseas is a waste of time. In the end, the monies recovered aren't going to the budget regardless and even if you have to repay HECS while working overseas, it's still, for most graduates, a far better alternative than trying to scrounge up work in Australia.
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The irony is parliamentarians who went to uni on Whitlam's dime getting pissy about people who at best are getting the same deal they got.
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Negligent posted:The irony is parliamentarians who went to uni on Whitlam's dime getting pissy about people who at best are getting the same deal they got. "I rallied and protested against a $250 fee for my degree, but my kids and their kids can pay $50-100k for theirs." - Joe Hockey
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I would legit pay money to see Lee Lin Chin fight Andrew Bolt
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CrazyTolradi posted:"I rallied and protested against a $250 fee for my degree, but my kids and their kids can pay $50-100k for theirs." - Joe Hockey The Hockey children will not pay a single cent for their future education
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CrazyTolradi posted:The irony of this is that it'd likely cost a lot more in government monies to chase this up then they'd actually recover, similar to how the ATO says charging GST on goods costing <$1000 purchased overseas is a waste of time. Not if you start treating it like a debt recovery service. Start throwing on some fees and increase the interest rate for breaching the terms of the loan, and you've got yourselves a perpetual money tap. Nothing that a bit of legislation couldn't fix, and then who's going to take them to court to test the legality of the changes?
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Drugs posted:The Hockey children will not pay a single cent for their future education What about their movie tickets?
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Negligent posted:domestic violence campaigner is just a euphemism for hysterical feminist Jesus knew that there was a place for everything and it’s not necessarily everyone’s place to not be brutally beaten by their spouse.
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Tokamak posted:Not if you start treating it like a debt recovery service. Start throwing on some fees and increase the interest rate for breaching the terms of the loan, and you've got yourselves a perpetual money tap. Nothing that a bit of legislation couldn't fix, and then who's going to take them to court to test the legality of the changes? Then we end up with a US style of student debt system in place, likely those kind of changes wouldn't pass the current senate. Given the amount of luck Pyne has had in there, he'd end up watering the act down to make it as effective as wet cardboard.
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Education is bad, it just leads to alarmist views. Vladimir Poutine posted:Bolt from the blue I'm genuinely surprised he went so easy on Naomi Klein, even going so far to acknowledge her as a writer. Then again, she is a writer, so he is probably unfamiliar with her work. I can't believe there isn't some cartoon of that Bolt dog from that Disney movie taking a poo poo to use in place of any of his article postings. markgreyam fucked around with this message at 07:35 on May 3, 2015 |
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I really don't think the poo is necessary.
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Gorilla Salad posted:Jesus knew that there was a place for everything and it’s not necessarily everyone’s place to not be brutally beaten by their spouse. If Jesus was known for one thing it was his firm belief of everyone adhering to their designated place in society.
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I'm actually finding it hard to locate biblical support for "Jesus knew that there was a place for everything." Most of that sort of stuff is in the Old Testiment. http://biblehub.com/colossians/1-17.htm Colossians has this but it's not a very clear statement of NTATA's claim. I did however find this: http://tonyandponies.tumblr.com/
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“I don’t think it’s a very Christian thing to come in by the back door rather than the front door.” e; some of the quotes on there either aren't real or Tony Abbott is a worse person that I thought, and I thought he was a pretty loving lovely person
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Murodese posted:“I don’t think it’s a very Christian thing to come in by the back door rather than the front door.” Every quote on there I bothered to check was real, or (in the case of a few off-the-record remarks) was reported by a big-name media organisation.
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Tokamak posted:Not if you start treating it like a debt recovery service. Start throwing on some fees and increase the interest rate for breaching the terms of the loan, and you've got yourselves a perpetual money tap. Nothing that a bit of legislation couldn't fix, and then who's going to take them to court to test the legality of the changes? Although it's a US citizen thing only have you guys ever discussed FATCA? Don't bother waiting for a tax return, just clip the ticket at the source. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreign_Account_Tax_Compliance_Act
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Cartoon posted:I really don't think the poo is necessary. Didn't pick you for a NIMBY
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Jumpingmanjim posted:http://ipa.org.au/library/publication/1257034755_document_091030_-_paper_-_palm_oil.pdf Racist
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Murodese posted:“I don’t think it’s a very Christian thing to come in by the back door rather than the front door.” I dunno, there seems to be plenty of christian legislators in the US who love entering by the back door.
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Vladimir Poutine posted:Bolt from the blue Since when did the campaign against domestic violence become an issue solely of the Left? Not your best work Bolt.
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