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Cockmaster
Feb 24, 2002

zedprime posted:

It's got to be super embarrassing when a Texas realtor is more compassionate than you are.

To be fair, it'd be a relatively simple matter for someone like him to just come back next year. That might not be so easy for the bucket-list tourists who might have saved up for hears to pay for the trip.

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Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius
If you have to save up for years for one Everest trip, you shouldn't climb Everest.

FrozenVent
May 1, 2009

The Boeing 737-200QC is the undisputed workhorse of the skies.

PostNouveau posted:

I see a lot of expeditions attached to some kind of charity or something that the climbers aim to raise money or "awareness" for. Is there really enough interest in climbing Everest in the general public to actually raise money?

Not really, it's a way for the people setting it up not to feel bad about begging, and to make it tax deductible. The charity gets the leftovers or a flat fee for using their names.

Nobody goes "yeah climb Everest and I'll give $50 to cancer research".

underage at the vape shop
May 11, 2011

by Cyrano4747

Yo being the first white male Australian with Scottish ancestry to get swallowed by a horde of man penguins shuffling eggs is on my bucketlist

NFX
Jun 2, 2008

Fun Shoe

A Saucy Bratwurst posted:

yah but if you get on a boat and go to antartica whos gunna stop you?

Noone. Except an avalanche:

http://www.everestnews.com/everest2008/mountainmadnesseverest05162008.htm posted:

The Polish Guy

In 2005, this middle aged Polish guy arrived at Base Camp without a permit to climb on Everest, but fully intended to try anyway, going unnoticed. He had very little money and basic equipment, but felt stong and capable enough to take on the mountain and at one point made it all the way through the Icefall and up to Camp I. Some of the larger guide services made note of his presence but he spoke little English, wasn't very friendly, and seemed to be able to take care of himself. So they left him alone and only saw him on the periphery while they looked after their clients. As we have seen from our limited time here, the Nepalis take their high dollar Everest climbing permits VERY seriously. But, we have also seen that if you were to go incognito enough, there is a good chance that you could go unnoticed. That is, unless a dramatic or tragic event changed your anonymous status quickly.

In 2005, something happened at Camp I that everyone prepares for, but almost never happens- a huge avalanche calved off of Everest's West Face that was large enough that it literally washed over Camp I. More or less a hundred year avalanche. Dozens of tents were flattened from the air blast alone, almost all were covered, and if you hadn't placed your tents on the high ground fingers (like where ours are located), you were in jeopardy. By some stroke of luck though, most climbers were down in Base Camp that day and at the time the avalanche struck, Camp I was almost deserted. The Polish Guy was unique- he had elected to stay in Camp I along with a small handfull of others that day. When the avalanche hit, he apparently jumped out of his tent to film the thousand tons of snow and ice as it moved in on Camp I- not exactly something that's recommended. But he was a tough old guy and must have thought he'd be ok. As an avalanche moves forward, it is preceeded by a wall air- a blast wave that pushes things down quickly and with force before the mass of snow comes along and washes everything in white and sweeps it along as the avalanche travels on it's way.

It was this wall of air that seems to have done the most damage to the Polish Guy, who had his camcorder pressed up to his face at the time he was hit. Out in front, the solid air slammed the camcorder with such force that it cut his face in many places and people afterwards wondered if you might be able to read "SONY" imprinted backwards on his forehead. Word of the avalanche reached Base Camp, and rescuers quickly pressed out, reaching the Camp I record time. Dazed and confused, the Polish Guy was already staggering down the mountain with only what he had on, still bleeding and face all smashed up. He clearly knew that he'd be found out and didn't want to pay a massive fine, thrown into a Nepali jail for climbing without a permit. As he passed several rescuers enroute down the Icefall, he gruffly waved off care and just kept on going. The confused rescuers didn't know what they would find up at Camp I, so they kept moving up and figured the Polish Guy would be taken care of by someone else further down below.

Upon arrival at Camp I, the rescuers found what remained of the Polish Guy's tent- just an old, small job barely bigger than a kitchen table. Peering inside, they found: gas for boiling water, and a very large bottle of vodka. That was it. Nothing more, nothing less. Gas and vodka. To climb Everest. The rescuers radioed that back, almost laughing in disbelief at how Spartan this guy's tent was. But by now the Nepali authorities knew about him and also knew he didn't have a climbing permit so they were actively looking for him with vigor. They didn't think it was very funny for sure. He wasn't in Base Camp, so the Nepalis figured he must still be coming down through the Icefall and focused their energy there. After a few hours he was nowhere to be found and they realized that despite their best efforts, he had somehow slipped the noose.

Several days later, the climbing community at Base Camp learned of his fate: Somehow, the Polish Guy had made it all the way to New Delhi, India and repatriated back to Poland from the Embassy there. New Delhi? Apparently, the Polish Guy had managed to walk close to 100 kilometers in the exact same climbing clothes that he had been wearing when hit in an avalanche at Camp I in the Western Cwm. Bleeding, injured, and only with the clothes on his back, he downclimbed through the Icefall, and no one noticed as he traveled all the way through the Khumbu Valley, out through Lukla and into Kathmandu.

From there, he likely took a bus across the border and all the way to New Delhi. He didn't have much money, so people speculate that he sold his climbing boots in Kathmandu for just enough money for bus fare to leave the country unnoticed. Even today, when you enter the Sagarmartha National Park gate near Lukla there is a picture of the Polish Guy looking all gruff and dazed on a ratty wanted poster that has likely been there since a few days after he ran off in 2005. My guess? He made it home, started putting back his loved vodka, told his tale to friends and family who called him a crazy nut, and he gave up on Everest completely.

Also of note is the "100 year avalanche", in 2005.

Control Volume
Dec 31, 2008

that polish dude owns

Cliff Racer
Mar 24, 2007

by Lowtax

NFX posted:

Also of note is the "100 year avalanche", in 2005.

Thats not how "100 year ________"s work.

1st AD
Dec 3, 2004

Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu: sometimes passing just isn't an option.

Levitate posted:

gently caress that you can pay $15 for the permit and walk up the trail yourself without paying some rear end in a top hat to carry your gear. Goddamn what a waste of money it'd be to pay $1000 for Whitney

I saw so many people just plain quit the trail halfway through, many of whom this was their 2nd attempt. I mean it's a long and grueling hike, but it's not that hard to do in a day.

Those are the people who need porters, people who don't train for a long hike with altitude gain.

Flyball
Apr 17, 2003

unpacked robinhood posted:

Of all the things that can go bad on everest you have to admit a giant loving earthquake would be stressful to say the least
Sure it would, big earthquakes are really, really scary. But you run to get away from something coming at you, falling on top of you, or going out from underneath you, not because it's really scary that the earth is shaking, and nothing else.

Those people looked like they were running away from a lot of snow coming at them, which seems quite reasonable.

Cliff Racer
Mar 24, 2007

by Lowtax
Honestly I'd rather be outside at Everest base camp during an earthquake than outside in a city with no enforced building codes.

PostNouveau
Sep 3, 2011

VY till I die
Grimey Drawer

MOVIE MAJICK posted:

How far would the average goon make it on an Everest expedition before they died?

I thought about it for 15 seconds, and I'm dead now.

Shangri-Law School
Feb 19, 2013

I looked up the highest chairlift in the world, and it's at the Chacaltaya ski resort in Bolivia at 17,785 feet. That's higher than Everest Base Camp, but my dream of sitting up to the summit is dead. :smith:

The ski resort's kind of dead, too, because global warming ate the glacier.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eqbt4b2Oatc

Geoj
May 28, 2008

BITTER POOR PERSON

Jose posted:

I'd recommend everyone drive up Pike's Peak if you're in Colorado. You can drive from Colorado Springs right onto the top of the mountain at 4000m+ although I can't recommend staying too long since you have to drive back down. I was only up there for about 5-10 minutes and was starting to get dizzy since there is no acclimatization

Seconding this, I did a Philmont trek with my scout troop in the late 90s in New Mexico, elevation at base camp is 10,000 ft which is a big deal if you're from the great lakes region. We spent three days in Colorado Springs and another two at base camp acclimating to the altitude before starting. Among the touristy poo poo we did in Colorado was driving up Pike's Peak and it definitely kicks your rear end.

I don't know if they still do it but I remember they had a pretty good scam going - they checked everyone's brake temperature with an IR thermometer on the way down, and it seemed everyone's brakes were too hot. So why don't you stop at the overpriced gift shop and restaurant for 15-20 minutes so they can cool down?

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
They did check peoples breaks constantly but we were never forced to stop

NihilismNow
Aug 31, 2003
Well known fact you need a Peugeot 405 T16 to drive up Pike's peak safely

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ex5JM5P-Lm0

djssniper
Jan 10, 2003


or a self built Motorbike
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AWy3MD88418

djssniper
Jan 10, 2003


Grim Up North posted:

In related news, Dani Arnold climbed Matterhorn ten minutes faster than Ueli Steck.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dA7HHvAjHOI

I saw a cross on that video at the top... someone built a cross at the summit!

Control Volume
Dec 31, 2008

paving that road was the worst thing for the rally :(

Drighton
Nov 30, 2005

Chris! posted:

Another new video of the moment the quake hits on Everest.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-32545637

They immediately begin running from the avalanche, but I can't understand why she continues filming - it seems to slow down her running? Maybe I'm wrong though.

She said in the video they ran up the mountain to get under some rocks. It does look that way. So they ran toward the avalanche I guess?

I Greyhound
Apr 22, 2008

MusicKrew Dawn Patrol
So I'm aware of the Pikes Peak race, but surely they must have robust rail guards, since the best racers will ride the knife edge of control on the car and sometimes lose traction, right?

Nope.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oCCNNpmt8ds

I Greyhound fucked around with this message at 01:53 on May 3, 2015

underage at the vape shop
May 11, 2011

by Cyrano4747
If that's the crash I'm thinking off, both survived and sold their story to recaro, to make ads.

Pretty amazing though, the safety in rally is incredible.

hailthefish
Oct 24, 2010

The money you pay IMG includes stuff like tents and food and climbing education. But yeah, for people who already know how to climb mountains and already have the gear, climbing mountains is relatively affordable, especially if you're doing it alpine style and not having a gang of locals carry you and all your poo poo.

Booourns
Jan 20, 2004
Please send a report when you see me complain about other posters and threads outside of QCS

~thanks!

A Saucy Bratwurst posted:

If that's the crash I'm thinking off, both survived and sold their story to recaro, to make ads.

Pretty amazing though, the safety in rally is incredible.

Gotta make up for the Group B poo poo somehow I guess

Meatwave
Feb 21, 2014

Truest Detective - Work Crew Division.
:dong::yayclod:

Levitate posted:

gently caress that you can pay $15 for the permit and walk up the trail yourself without paying some rear end in a top hat to carry your gear. Goddamn what a waste of money it'd be to pay $1000 for Whitney

Yeah, in summer (if you win the permit lottery). That $1000 is for a guided snow climb, which is a different story. It's about as difficult as Rainier.

Meatwave fucked around with this message at 02:20 on May 3, 2015

underage at the vape shop
May 11, 2011

by Cyrano4747
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwdC1Yi3OG8

E: Recaro probably gave them a lot more money but their welder and cage designers really deserve all the thanks.

underage at the vape shop fucked around with this message at 02:26 on May 3, 2015

DPM
Feb 23, 2015

TAKE ME HOME
I'LL CHECK YA BUM FOR GRUBS
Nepal has copped another earthquake.

Why the gently caress would anybody want to try going up again?

nsaP
May 4, 2004

alright?
Because it's there.

SLICK GOKU BABY
Jun 12, 2001

Hey Hey Let's Go! 喧嘩する
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It might not be here next year.

Geoj
May 28, 2008

BITTER POOR PERSON
There's a major potential for setting a new world record here - first to summit Everest in the midst of a 7.0+ magnitude earthquake :colbert:

monster on a stick
Apr 29, 2013

DumbparameciuM posted:

Nepal has copped another earthquake.

Why the gently caress would anybody want to try going up again?

5.1 quake isn't that big of a deal. That's about 500 times smaller than the 7.8 quake.

For reference there were four earthquakes 5.0 or above today, same thing yesterday, Richter is log 10.

Alliterate Addict
Jul 10, 2012

dreaming of that face again

it's bright and blue and shimmering

grinning wide and comforting me with it's three warm and wild eyes

monster on a stick posted:

5.1 quake isn't that big of a deal. That's about 500 times smaller than the 7.8 quake.

For reference there were four earthquakes 5.0 or above today, same thing yesterday, Richter is log 10.

I’d say that any quake when you’re attached to the side of a snow-covered mountain or traversing a giant sheet of ice that’s already sliding around without any extra shaking required is a bigger deal than you’d really want to have.

xie
Jul 29, 2004

I GET UPSET WHEN PEOPLE SPEND THEIR MONEY ON WASTEFUL THINGS THAT I DONT APPROVE OF :capitalism:
Do you think the tour companies laugh at their clients behind closed doors or completely take themselves seriously and believe that they're making Dreams Come True etc.

Concerned Citizen
Jul 22, 2007
Ramrod XTreme
more people in nepal died far away from everest than on everest. maybe if everyone is on everest, it will be safe

SLICK GOKU BABY
Jun 12, 2001

Hey Hey Let's Go! 喧嘩する
大切な物を protect my balls


Concerned Citizen posted:

more people in nepal died far away from everest than on everest. maybe if everyone is on everest, it will be safe

Yes, mount everest has begun sheltering its climbers from any harm.

monster on a stick
Apr 29, 2013

Ursine Asylum posted:

I’d say that any quake when you’re attached to the side of a snow-covered mountain or traversing a giant sheet of ice that’s already sliding around without any extra shaking required is a bigger deal than you’d really want to have.

A 5.1 is going to be closer to "there was a quake?" than causing the mountain to vibrate and the ice sheets to move unless you are right on top of it.

Butt Wizard
Nov 3, 2005

It was a pornography store. I was buying pornography.

Cojawfee posted:

Pike's Peak is one of the most famous rally courses.

It was - it's lost a lot of its traditional challenge after they paved the whole thing. I mean it still gets some pretty cool entries and the run is a lot faster but the magic is kind of gone.

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
I watched the summit and Pemba Gyalje is a machine. How he spent that long up there :eyepop:

Seizure Meat
Jul 23, 2008

by Smythe
The Subaru crash at Pikes Peak is bad, but Dallenbach's in Unlimited was way more scary

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2J3fFttQrmA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MnolSTQgy9Y

Here's the record set after it was paved

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y20CLumT2Sg

IIRC Pikes Peak is the second oldest race in the US, behind only the Indianapolis 500

Seizure Meat fucked around with this message at 15:10 on May 3, 2015

underage at the vape shop
May 11, 2011

by Cyrano4747
you call an evo a subaru around the wrong ppl and you'll probably get a very severe stern look mang

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Seizure Meat
Jul 23, 2008

by Smythe

A Saucy Bratwurst posted:

you call an evo a subaru around the wrong ppl and you'll probably get a very severe stern look mang

I post in AI all the time, haha

I haven't seen the crash since it happened and forgot the car. Shoulda watched the vid for a refresher

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