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Sulecrist posted:I don't really "get" ebooks. If the digital copy costs more than the physical copy, that's pretty dumb. It doesn't. That's just a GW thing, trying to suck as many dollars from the consumer as possible. The industry standard is that the ebook costs 50% of the paperback print version. On a related note, I was talking with a new guy in our gaming group who used to work with GW Canada. He said that the company has absolutely no concept of money at all or how a business is supposed to run - they would fly the staff of the Canada HQ down to Glen Burnie for a full week for a half-hour presentation, then wine and dine them for the remainder of the week on the company dime. This, my friends, is where your GW money goes.
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berzerkmonkey posted:It doesn't. That's just a GW thing, trying to suck as many dollars from the consumer as possible. The industry standard is that the ebook costs 50% of the paperback print version. Lol that's actually how every business is run. Job one as a middle manager/jr. executive anywhere is pissing away company money on dumbass poo poo like retreats, expensed meals, and first-class tickets.
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Apr 30, 2015 16:18
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Yeah, my employer just spent $20000+ in travel sending people to see a new piece of software, paying for airfare and rooms for 3 days and I think they spent a total of 5 hours demoing it.
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berzerkmonkey posted:It doesn't. That's just a GW thing, trying to suck as many dollars from the consumer as possible. The industry standard is that the ebook costs 50% of the paperback print version. So far it's been highly effective in making me not buy books I have an active interest in reading, so I hope they're really harpooning those whales. Are there any alternative outlets or secondhand stores that are likely to carry GW stuff at prices below their online store or B&N, assuming I can bear the shame of buying their stuff in person?
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Voyager I posted:So far it's been highly effective in making me not buy books I have an active interest in reading, so I hope they're really harpooning those whales. Amazon. They're just books, dude. Pulp paperbacks are $10, hardcovers around $20 just like every other book. OXBALLS DOT COM fucked around with this message at 19:40 on Apr 30, 2015 |
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Apr 30, 2015 19:37
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I've been buying my own books for more than 20 years, and aside from stuff like Pride & Prejudice reprints I don't think I've ever seen a new hardcover with an MSRP of <$22.95. I really don't have a problem with how much physical BL books cost, except those big oversize paperback ones.
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Apr 30, 2015 20:22
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Hardcover is justified, but the ebook prices are ridiculous.
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Riso posted:Hardcover is justified, but the ebook prices are ridiculous. I'll always buy Dan Abnett hardcovers (because I want his stuff the day it comes out) but I'll also pay out for an omnibus eventually and box the hardcover.
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Apr 30, 2015 22:49
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My friends and I used to buy the BL ebooks a lot more than we ever did the paperbacks. But ever since they started this offensive gouging on the ebooks people have just flat out turned to piracy. And I don't blame them at all. It is such a transparent pisstake.
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Hmm, it actually looks like the Eisenhorn ebooks off the Black Library sites are coming in at $12 individually or $70 for everything in the series (Eisenhorn, Ravenor, Pariah, and some short stories) which isn't an aggressively bad deal and is cheaper than buying used paperbacks of Amazon. My browser isn't mistakenly displaying Pounds as Dollars or something, is it?
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I buy the hardbacks for all of the 40k books I read (Abnett & ADBs stuff basically) and whatever softback else there is (Wraight & crew). If I buy a book in 2015 it should come with an ebook, like those blurays that come with a digital download. I want the physical copy of the book because its cool to own but I also want the convenience of being able to read it where ever I go.
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May 3, 2015 01:39
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Jerkface posted:I buy the hardbacks for all of the 40k books I read (Abnett & ADBs stuff basically) and whatever softback else there is (Wraight & crew). If I buy a book in 2015 it should come with an ebook, like those blurays that come with a digital download. I want the physical copy of the book because its cool to own but I also want the convenience of being able to read it where ever I go. I'm sort of the other way around. I want to read a lot of books without having them all over the place for risk of defining me. A whole bookshelf full of 40K books would give an impression of a person that I'm not.
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Zephyrine posted:I'm sort of the other way around. I want to read a lot of books without having them all over the place for risk of defining me. A whole bookshelf full of 40K books would give an impression of a person that I'm not. I really hope you're not serious with this post, because if you think a bookshelf defines who you are, you have serious problems...
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May 3, 2015 14:22
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Maybe he means it invites judgements of who you are that you might not want. Because just because you're hiding those books doesn't mean that that's not the kind of person you are.
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berzerkmonkey posted:I really hope you're not serious with this post, because if you think a bookshelf defines who you are, you have serious problems... He has a point. A bookshelf of 40k might encourage someone to purchase more books as a gift. "I saw you loved those spacemen books, so I got you this one. It's by someone called Henry Zou...
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Zephyrine posted:I'm sort of the other way around. I want to read a lot of books without having them all over the place for risk of defining me. A whole bookshelf full of 40K books would give an impression of a person that I'm not.
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May 3, 2015 17:15
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If you are so insecure that you have to hide your choice of book so people don't judge you, then I don't know what to say. That shallowness is way more harmful to how people will perceive you than any amount of mainstream shitfiction could ever be. For instance, your post made me think that you are a loving weirdo.
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May 3, 2015 17:38
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I have two bookshelves of 40k stuff I also bench above my body weight and my dlift is over 9000 u fkin nerds Gunna slam u in a locker
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May 3, 2015 17:41
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My bookshelf is in my bedroom so no one will ever see it
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Oh man, this is my favorite discussion that this thread takes every now and again! I can sympathize with not wanting to display your love of genre fiction for the world to see. Should you feel ashamed for reading books about lasers and spacemans? Absolutely not. But that doesn't stop the fact that most people out there would judge you if they walked into your house and saw a 40 year old with a bookshelf full of warhammer and forgotten realms books.
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If I went to a dudes house and saw a floor to ceiling bookshelf full of 40K books i'd totally not gently caress him.bunnyofdoom posted:My bookshelf is in my bedroom so no one will ever see it Especially women 
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May 3, 2015 18:08
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A whole back I went to a friends 40-somethingth birthday and found that he had so many books in his house that you could basically shape the stacks and throw a blanket over them to make couches if you wanted. It was awesome. So much to read. Also  my girlfriend went to Gamesday with me to get her books signed by Dan Abnett so... uh... get better friends?ETA: what did I just say? VVVVVVV Arquinsiel fucked around with this message at 18:29 on May 3, 2015 |
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berzerkmonkey posted:I really hope you're not serious with this post, because if you think a bookshelf defines who you are, you have serious problems... I believe that what you put in display in your home does a lot to give people an impression of what kind of person you are. And although I find the 40K books amusing they are also kind of dumb and "thuggish" It's a world of man-children who would if given the choice replace their genitals with a minigun if give the option because girls are icky anyway. I rather dislike space marines and their damned superiority complexes but the world itself and the real people in it. Not just humans but fleshed out characters with opinions and emotions, wants and desires, flaws and aspirations. Like Lorgar, Erebus, Longfang in "Prospero Burns" Perturabo with his clockwork miniatures Horus before he was relegated to a background piece. There are a lot of things that I've read that I'd not want to put on display in my house. The Anita Blake series. The wheel of time series. Disworld. That is something I would keep on display. "down and out in paris and london" is another. I would definitely put any work by Lovecraft on display I wouldn't put "1984" on a bookshelf. 40k as a whole is really really dumb. Interesting but very dumb. Zephyrine fucked around with this message at 18:27 on May 3, 2015 |
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Zephyrine posted:I believe that what you put in display in your home does a lot to give people an impression of what kind of person you are.  Wow Lol Personslly i promeintly display halo and drizzit books myself
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Zephyrine posted:I believe that what you put in display in your home does a lot to give people an impression of what kind of person you are. Source your drat quotes.
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PRESIDENT GOKU posted:
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hopterque posted:Source your drat quotes. Quotes?
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Think about it, it'll come to you.
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I see where your coming from i have boxes full of warhammer books i don't display either because its junk fiction fun to read and pass some time. Its books design to sell mini dolls so nothing to take seriously.
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Zephyrine posted:I would definitely put any work by Lovecraft on display
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If you made racism of the author a criteria for books instead of content that would be a very small and boring shelf.
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Its a sad day when a man is afraid people will judge his value as a person based on the cover of his books. edit: person sorry Kharn_The_Betrayer fucked around with this message at 22:05 on May 3, 2015 |
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Kharn_The_Betrayer posted:Its a sad day when a man is afraid people will judge his value as a person based on the cover of his books. Swing and a miss...
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I think people absolutely judge other people based off of the books they read. If I'm on a bus and I see a set of identical twins, one of them reading 50 Shades of Grey and the other is reading Crime and Punishment, I'm going to immediately start having preconceived notions about them. Now those motions may be wrong (or they may even be unconscious thoughts on my part) but regardless of that the thoughts will come to me nevertheless. That's just how the world and we humans work, as a whole we are a judge mental lot. Now caring about what others think about your choice of books? That's another matter entirely. Hot Dog Day #82 fucked around with this message at 22:11 on May 3, 2015 |
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May 3, 2015 22:09
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Zephyrine isn't doing a great job of explaining her point, but yeah, my genre fiction collection probably isn't going on top of the mantle.
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SRM posted:"If someone comes in to my house and sees my books by a modestly racist horror writer that's totally awesome, but none of that high school reading list scrub poo poo." "modestly racist" Howard Phillip Lovecraft posted:When, long ago, the gods created Earth Anyway this whole argument is dumb as hell because if someone is casting immortal judgment you for the contents of your bookshelf, you should probably not be friends with them, and if you are embarrassed enough by the fact that you read spaceman books to need to hide them under a giant pile of Steinbecks, you need to loosen the gently caress up. Nobody gives a poo poo that you file McNeill next to McCarthy. Hot Dog Day #82 posted:I think people absolutely judge other people based off of the books they read. If I'm on a bus and I see a set of identical twins, one of them reading 50 Shades of Grey and the other is reading Crime and Punishment, I'm going to immediately start having preconceived notions about them. Now those motions may be wrong (or they may even be unconscious thoughts on my part) but regardless of that the thoughts will come to me nevertheless. That's just how the world and we humans work, as a whole we are a judge mental lot. These twins do/should not give a single flying gently caress about you, some dipshit on the bus they will never have to interact with in any other context than you silently judging them for what they read.
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Tulul posted:
I agree, and that is why I included the bottom of my post that you clipped out of my quote! They shouldn't care about what people are thinking about them, but that doesn't mean that the judgements won't be happening.
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Spot the Warham reader:
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Hot Dog Day #82 posted:I think people absolutely judge other people based off of the books they read. If I'm on a bus and I see a set of identical twins, one of them reading 50 Shades of Grey and the other is reading Crime and Punishment, I'm going to immediately start having preconceived notions about them. Now those motions may be wrong (or they may even be unconscious thoughts on my part) but regardless of that the thoughts will come to me nevertheless. That's just how the world and we humans work, as a whole we are a judge mental lot.
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Being worried about house-based reading judgements implies that you will forgo comfort and true expression in your own home for the sake of perceived conformity. That is really pathetically sad on multiple levels.
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