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Under the vegetable posted:Honestly who are we but base wallowers in hubristic irreverence if we don't just do what the TV says? Remember, all you need to do is check whether your vote is deemed progressive(TM)(R)(C) by the collective of PACs And Other Sponsors, that's all you need to know to satisfy your consciousness. After all who the gently caress knows what progressive means. I don't.
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LOU BEGAS MUSTACHE posted:bernie has one thousandth the More accurate.
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steinrokkan posted:Remember, all you need to do is check whether your vote is deemed progressive(TM)(R)(C) by the collective of PACs And Other Sponsors, that's all you need to know to satisfy your consciousness. Favouring social reform.
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May 4, 2015 01:11
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Sorry for my previous posting, it was all an elaborate joke (troll) and the point is that voting for Hillary Clinton is voting for a war criminal, and I'm not kidding, because the Iraq War was a war crime - hundreds of thousands of people lost their lives. If you look at the effects of destabilizing the middle east, that number reaches the millions. And how many more were displaced or otherwise had their lives ruined? That's no joke. Hillary Clinton is literally a war criminal, because she voted for and was complicit in a war of aggression.
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May 4, 2015 01:12
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Fluo posted:Favouring social reform. You would think so, but social reform seems to barely factor into the electoral behaviour of the real progressive lightbearers.
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May 4, 2015 01:13
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If you are OK voting for a war criminal, someone who would be convicted by the standards of Nuremberg, that's your decision. Just be completely honest with what you are voting for, and what that represents. And when you vote, pull the lever with the mental image of millions of dead and suffering people.
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May 4, 2015 01:15
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Sheng-ji Yang posted:Accelerationism is pretty dumb but I'm never going to vote for Hillary. If Sanders doesn't pull off a miracle I'll just vote for Jill Stein. This is a very smart thing to do and I encourage all very left-wing people in this thread to do the same! Vote your heart! I know I did in 2008 when I was Hill all the way to election day when I voted McCain instead. Spite those fuckers!
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May 4, 2015 01:15
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Malmesbury Monster posted:Those sheeple. I'm ok with peer pressure but I'm not ok with institutionalized pressure sponsored by Citigroup.
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steinrokkan posted:You would think so, but social reform seems to barely factor into the electoral behaviour of the real progressive lightbearers. Because they are socially and economically comfortable and don't want to rock the boat. Do as we say not as we do.
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TEAYCHES posted:Sorry for my previous posting, it was all an elaborate joke (troll) and the point is that voting for Hillary Clinton is voting for a war criminal, and I'm not kidding, because the Iraq War was a war crime - hundreds of thousands of people lost their lives. If you look at the effects of destabilizing the middle east, that number reaches the millions. And how many more were displaced or otherwise had their lives ruined? That's no joke. Hillary Clinton is literally a war criminal, because she voted for and was complicit in a war of aggression.  A homicidal sociopath who escaped institutionalization, and Mr. Kissinger.  A politician responsible for fetishizing death kisses a chief Nixon's policy expert.
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May 4, 2015 01:15
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Henry Kissinger is a great person, and is totally not culpable for the deaths of millions of innocent southeast Asians for cynical political reasons. It is good that he is honored and embraced by Hillary Clinton. That is also trolling, I don't actually believe that, because that is a picture of two literal war criminals.
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May 4, 2015 01:17
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Hillary Clinton is a reptoid space criminal. This is not coded antisemitism, because Bernie Sanders is a confirmed one hundred percent human being, and is also Jewish.
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May 4, 2015 01:18
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Under the vegetable posted:Hillary Clinton is a reptoid space criminal. 
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May 4, 2015 01:22
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TEAYCHES posted:Henry Kissinger is a great person, and is totally not culpable for the deaths of millions of innocent southeast Asians for cynical political reasons. It is good that he is honored and embraced by Hillary Clinton. I may be mistaken, but I believe Henry Kissinger is an old white male. The jury is out on whether Bill Clinton falls into the same category.
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May 4, 2015 01:23
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May 4, 2015 01:25
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steinrokkan posted:Yeah, let's embrace defeatism and vote for a despicable status quo candidate instead, because we need our vote to matter! The joke didn't work. The slash edit on his original post was intended to say "your 'if scenario is 100% certain". "Good for you  " was supposed to be dismissive because there is a near-absolute certainty that Bernie will not win, and "going full acceleration" is an asinine choice to make. The joke/sarcasm was poorly executed.Essentially his statement was like "I'm all for getting into shape, but if this late night infomercial miracle cure doesn't fix it, gently caress exercise, I'm just going to eat lard from now on."
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May 4, 2015 01:26
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As a poor non-white woman, I plan on voting for Sanders in the primary, left as possible on all down-ticket races, and for Clinton when she gets the nomination, because Sanders sure as hell isn't going to get it. I also think Sanders is better off staying in Congress pushing his agenda instead of president with a GOP congress. Also, lol if you think people are voting for Hillary because she's a woman, it's because we're terrified of the Supreme Court with a GOP president.
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May 4, 2015 01:28
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Mecca-Benghazi posted:As a poor non-white woman, I plan on voting for Sanders in the primary internalized misogyny spotted
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May 4, 2015 01:34
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Segmentation Fault posted:internalized misogyny spotted quote:As a poor non-white woman, I plan on voting for Sanders in the primary, left as possible on all down-ticket races, and for Clinton when she gets the nomination, because Sanders sure as hell isn't going to get it. Swing and a miss, baby.
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May 4, 2015 01:36
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Gen. Ripper posted:Swing and a miss, baby. Making the Venerable Lady of Corporations a second order candidate, what a sham.
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May 4, 2015 01:37
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Gen. Ripper posted:Swing and a miss, baby. oh no my shitpost isn't 100% accurate *votes for the token candidate instead of the one promising real social justice*
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May 4, 2015 01:39
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steinrokkan posted:Making the Venerable Lady of Corporations a second order candidate, what a sham. Segmentation Fault posted:oh no my shitpost isn't 100% accurate *votes for the token candidate instead of the one promising real social justice* I also don't think Sanders is that great on race and that fixing our economic issues will not fix all or even most of racism in this country.
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May 4, 2015 01:44
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Mecca-Benghazi posted:I also don't think Sanders is that great on race and that fixing our economic issues will not fix all or even most of racism in this country. sanders isnt great on race because as a white man he is predestined to always be a shitlord
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May 4, 2015 01:45
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Cliff Racer posted:This is a very smart thing to do and I encourage all very left-wing people in this thread to do the same! Vote your heart! I know I did in 2008 when I was Hill all the way to election day when I voted McCain instead. Spite those fuckers! I'm not sure what point you're trying to make but I can guess it's pretty dumb.
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May 4, 2015 01:46
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D&D, where there is no room for pragmatism in how you vote.
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May 4, 2015 01:48
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So is Jim Webb a possibility for running to Hilary's right? Bernie finishes cornering the populist wing, and here comes a moderate Democrat war hero Reagan appointee to "balance out" the primary and make Hilary seem charming and palatable.
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May 4, 2015 01:49
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Segmentation Fault posted:sanders isnt great on race because as a white man he is predestined to always be a shitlord The white persecution complex is the greatest thing to exist, and by "greatest" I mean "worst".
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Gen. Ripper posted:The white persecution complex is the greatest thing to exist, and by "greatest" I mean "worst". same, but white man's burden being unironically applied to social justice
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AndNowMax posted:make Hilary seem charming and palatable. lets not be farcical
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May 4, 2015 01:51
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AndNowMax posted:make Hilary seem charming and palatable. Are they going to clone Lindbergh? (Though Lindbegh would probably win over Hillary)
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May 4, 2015 01:55
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Segmentation Fault posted:same, but white man's burden being unironically applied to social justice
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May 4, 2015 01:58
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Mecca-Benghazi posted:I'm not sure what point you're trying to make. He's certainly not bad on race, but I definitely wish he was better. I was more referring to ~*white male allies*~ and their view on social justice being a white man's burden that ends up just being an exercise of vanity
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May 4, 2015 02:01
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Vote for banks, or vote for wars. Same thing happened in 2004. Pick one.
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Spoilers, if it's Hillary vs a Republican, you're voting for both banks AND wars no matter what you do.
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SpeedGem posted:Vote for banks, or vote for wars. Same thing happened in 2004. Pick one. I'd vote for Philip Banks if he was running
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Segmentation Fault posted:I was more referring to ~*white male allies*~ and their view on social justice being a white man's burden that ends up just being an exercise of vanity And you think you're a good ally though?
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May 4, 2015 02:24
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Are people really that upset by Clinton they would throw their vote away? Because it's like the most immature temper tantrum thing to throw your vote away because the candidate you liked in the primary lost. Every politician has skeletons in their closet, and they act based on current voting trends and desires not on what the skeleton in the closet is telling them. Hillary in 2016 will be much more to the left than Bill was in his term because trends have shifted. Will she be an ideal candidate? No.
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May 4, 2015 02:33
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I plan on voting for Bernie in the primary, just because I like him better, but Hillary is a great choice too. And the Iraq War vote is a strange hill to die on. She was a freshman senator voting on an issue supported by over 60% of her constituents. And yes, she was making the cynical choice to go with the popular will. But you can't equate that with the crimes committed by Bush Administration officials like John Yoo.
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Venom Snake posted:Are people really that upset by Clinton they would throw their vote away? Because it's like the most immature temper tantrum thing to throw your vote away because the candidate you liked in the primary lost. gently caress hillary though
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The X-man cometh posted:John Yoo. what do heroic bloodshed movies have to do with the iraq war
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