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May 3, 2015 11:52
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Rum is delicious. Let's ##advise Suleyman Seljuk. (Also, Malik Shah looks boringly powerful).
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May 3, 2015 12:11
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##advise Malik-Shah Seljuk
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May 3, 2015 13:19
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 This right here is a man destined for greatness if I have ever seen one. ##Advise Suleyman Seljuk.
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May 3, 2015 14:27
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##Advise Suleyman Seljuk Pretty much because the Seljuks would be too boring. Rûm all the way, baby.
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May 3, 2015 14:31
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##Advise Suleyman Seljuk
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May 3, 2015 14:44
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1) Advise whoever. 2) Tell them what Breech-Loading Rifles and Steam Engines are. 3) Win.
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May 3, 2015 15:31
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##Advise the Count of Chuy, the last Manichean ruler left in 1081, and therefore probably extremely popular in modern Transoxiana Gotta stand up for the Mazdans. If you want to crush Rome, support the return of REAL Persia, not Muslim pretenders.
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May 3, 2015 15:51
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Everybody knows Islam is the true religion of Byzantium.  ##Advise Suleyman Seljuk
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May 3, 2015 17:06
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##Advise Henry IV Salian Baseball may be doomed, but surely some other past time may spring forth should Christendom soldier on.
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May 3, 2015 17:24
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##Advise Suleyman Seljuk
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May 3, 2015 18:30
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##Advise Suleyman Seljuk So we can finally answer the question of where it went.
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May 3, 2015 18:44
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##Advise Suleyman Seljuk Take care of Armenia Minor, make sure the bigger Seljuks like you enough to intervene in the inevitable and perplexing Crusade for Greece, take Constantinople, now you are Roume?
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May 3, 2015 22:34
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Have to throw my lot in with ##Count of Chuy, of course.
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May 3, 2015 22:37
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Advise all The "play" console command is beautiful.
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May 4, 2015 04:18
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Rincewind posted:OOC: Optionally, provide an (out of character, CK2-mechanics-based) plan for any of these characters to destroy the Byzantine Empire (or at least prevent its resurgence). I've tried a few of these starts as test games, and it didn't go well. Marry your first cousins until every family member is guaranteed to always have the "inbred" trait, and then marry every Byzantine you can.
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May 4, 2015 04:27
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The Seljuks are a longshot at best. Think back to your Anatolian history classes - you know that they're almost as dysfunctional and treacherous as the Byzantines. ##Advise Nikephoros Palailogos ! The rot began with Alexios, and Old Nick is a dagger right at his throat!
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May 4, 2015 05:38
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Rum, Byzantium, the Seljuks, it's all tied to the same history, the same ultimate goals. Vote Chuy, vote Change!
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May 4, 2015 06:03
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##Advise Malik-Shah Seljuk
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May 4, 2015 06:15
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Skip ahead a century or two and ##Advise Chang Yuchan You want to destroy Rome? You must first realize that the West IS Rome.
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May 4, 2015 06:33
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Mantis42 posted:Skip ahead a century or two and ##Advise Chang Yuchan I always thought Chang should have declared himself Caliph. Maybe this time.
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May 4, 2015 07:15
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Mantis42 posted:Skip ahead a century or two and ##Advise Chang Yuchan I'll throw my support behind ##Advising Chang Yuchan. A glorious Eurasian spanning Chinese empire awaits!
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May 4, 2015 07:19
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##Advise Henry IV Salian to reunite East and West!
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May 4, 2015 11:37
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Let's go right to the source, true CKII style. ##Advise Alexios Komnenos: Murder your children, siblings, and extended family. Grant independence to all vassals, smallest first. Destroy all titles you can. Raise all your levies and park them in a high attrition province during a severe winter. Assassinate the leaders of your neighbors until you die or Rome does.
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May 4, 2015 13:02
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Advise Malik-Shah Seljuk, because the possibility of beating Chang Yuchun's rear end and making him humble is too good to pass up
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May 4, 2015 13:29
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##Advise Chang Yuchun Stick to your orders. Don't go to Europe. Especially don't go on a boat trip to Iberia.
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May 4, 2015 13:34
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AJ_Impy posted:Let's go right to the source, true CKII style. Oooh, or be Alexios but install one of those Vampire mods so that he's there for the whole game. Alexiad Eterna!
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May 4, 2015 13:37
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AJ_Impy posted:##Advise Chang Yuchun
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May 4, 2015 13:59
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Luhood posted:Everybody knows Islam is the true religion of Byzantium. Changing my older vote. ##Advice Zheng He! Take your navy to Europe, and assist Chang Yuchun in his quest to end the Mongol threat. I've heard Somalia is beautiful this time of the year.
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May 4, 2015 16:47
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##Advise Suleyman Seljuk
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May 4, 2015 17:14
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##advise Suleyman Seljuk
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May 4, 2015 17:25
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May 4, 2015 18:03
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##Advise the Count of Chuy
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May 4, 2015 18:22
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##Advise Suleyman Selçuklu
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May 4, 2015 19:23
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Rincewind posted:##Advise Zheng He, who will also not be born for like a zillion years. Also CK2 barely has naval mechanics. And also most of his voyages weren't even on the CK2 map. Good grief. Fine, fine! I know when a vote is not wanted! ##Advice Malik-Shah, true lord of all Turks Luhood fucked around with this message at 20:03 on May 4, 2015 |
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May 4, 2015 19:48
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##Advise Malik-Shah Selçuklu
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May 4, 2015 19:53
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##Advise Zheng He, who will also not be born for like a zillion years. Also CK2 barely has naval mechanics. And also most of his voyages weren't even on the CK2 map. Good grief. Hey, massively out of place Chinese invasions are a staple of this LP.
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May 4, 2015 19:56
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Rincewind posted:2.) I felt like the outcome of a Rum game might end up very similar to AzeriLP to the point of being redundant. Fortunately, as the Byzantines, we dodged that bullet, so we never became a revolutionary republic with a tricolor flag using a policy of tolerance to knit together a diverse population of Muslims and Christians in Anatolia in Victoria 2. If you actually survive you could make a point of focusing on the ~*real prize*~ of Persia rather than the infidel-stuffed backwater of Greece. I have had a successful Rum campaign but I started at whichever start date has the most provinces, which helps, and it was like 10 major patches ago
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May 4, 2015 20:04
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##Advise whomever can be converted to Buddhism or Hinduism first.
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May 4, 2015 21:52
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I am changing my vote from Malik-Shah to: ##Advise the Count of Chuy, the last Manichean ruler left in 1081, and therefore probably extremely popular in modern Transoxiana
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