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rabidsquid posted:I can't think of a third outcome so I agree that I will also not be surprised if it is real or fake. half of it is real, the other half is fake
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Frozen_flame posted:The Chandra isn't real, the copyright years are also different. Its actually pretty hard to see and looks just like Heretical Healer when upsized.
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May 5, 2015 01:12
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forbidden lesbian posted:half of it is real, the other half is fake That would be a risky card to play in a tournament, I like it
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May 5, 2015 01:14
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It's a splashy effect, but 4 mana is a lot for a counterspell and UUU is very restrictive. You can counter a spell or bounce things for 1U if that's what you want, so I can't imagine this being played much outside of gimmick decks.
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May 5, 2015 01:16
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Irony Be My Shield posted:It's a splashy effect, but 4 mana is a lot for a counterspell and UUU is very restrictive. You can counter a spell or bounce things for 1U if that's what you want, so I can't imagine this being played much outside of gimmick decks. User name/post combo - 10/10, would read again.
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May 5, 2015 01:17
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I hope that Chandra is real but I doubt it. If she is that is one incredibly strong walker but the hoops you have to jump through may be too restrictive.
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May 5, 2015 01:29
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Irony Be My Shield posted:It's a splashy effect, but 4 mana is a lot for a counterspell and UUU is very restrictive. You can counter a spell or bounce things for 1U if that's what you want, so I can't imagine this being played much outside of gimmick decks. It's clearly Wizards trying to 'fix' Ojutai's Command.
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May 5, 2015 01:31
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Fuzzy Mammal posted:IQ is terrible as poo poo, but it seems to be new art. Who knows if it's legit. This is the Spoiler Stadium tho  Frozen_flame posted:The Chandra isn't real, the copyright years are also different. 
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May 5, 2015 01:35
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Christ the hoops you have to jump through consist of have a single instant speed burn spell for their blocker or cast two red spells on turn 4. What loving world do you live in where those are tricky? Like that's the plan of every red deck ever.
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May 5, 2015 01:38
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My plan doesn't actually involve playing a grey ogre that does nothing the turn it comes down.
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May 5, 2015 01:40
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If that Chandra is fake then we're two for two on very convincing Chandra fakes. 
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May 5, 2015 01:41
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Sigma-X posted:Christ the hoops you have to jump through consist of have a single instant speed burn spell for their blocker or cast two red spells on turn 4. What loving world do you live in where those are tricky? No man, swinging in with 4 mana open is so restrictive because Red never ever does that. Friendly reminder that you can have both Chandra, Roaring Flame AND Fire of Kaladesh on the board at the same time. I really, really hope this is her card. these are also the only walkers that get wrecked by Ratchet Bomb on 0, how humorous.
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May 5, 2015 01:41
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Sigma-X posted:Christ the hoops you have to jump through consist of have a single instant speed burn spell for their blocker or cast two red spells on turn 4. What loving world do you live in where those are tricky? In this brave new world of casting a thousand dumb permanents the red mage has forgotten his ancestry
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May 5, 2015 01:45
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Eidolon costs 1 less and will probably do your opponent more damage.
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May 5, 2015 01:53
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Irony Be My Shield posted:Eidolon costs 1 less and will probably do your opponent more damage. You're not wrong, but I never understood the concept of "Why would you ever use this card over another that will inevitably not be Standard legal at the same time???"
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May 5, 2015 01:58
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The hoops I'm referring to are playing an aggressive Red deck that doesn't mind taking Turn 3 off to cast a Grey Ogre that gives no value if removed anytime before your next untap step, then taking turn 4 to not develop your board at all and instead cast two spells to trigger an effect that is cancelled by any instant speed removal in the set.
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May 5, 2015 02:11
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DAD LOST MY IPOD posted:The hoops I'm referring to are playing an aggressive Red deck that doesn't mind taking Turn 3 off to cast a Grey Ogre that gives no value if removed anytime before your next untap step, then taking turn 4 to not develop your board at all and instead cast two spells to trigger an effect that is cancelled by any instant speed removal in the set. While this might not be the case forever, per my last point, but casting Chandra now at least gives Foundry Street Denizen a boost. The situation you described is otherwise no different from casting Goblin Rabblemaster, to be fair.
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May 5, 2015 02:16
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bhsman posted:While this might not be the case forever, per my last point, but casting Chandra now at least gives Foundry Street Denizen a boost. The situation you described is otherwise no different from casting Goblin Rabblemaster, to be fair. goblin rabblemaster does one damage the turn you play it and pumps foundry street denizen up to a 3/1
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May 5, 2015 02:18
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A big flaming stink posted:goblin rabblemaster does one damage the turn you play it and pumps foundry street denizen up to a 3/1 It also wins the game 3 turns later if unanswered. This card doesn't.
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May 5, 2015 02:26
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A big flaming stink posted:goblin rabblemaster does one damage the turn you play it and pumps foundry street denizen up to a 3/1 "End of your first main step, Ultimate Price."
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May 5, 2015 02:27
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bhsman posted:"End of your first main step, Ultimate Price." The fake Chandra dies that too.
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May 5, 2015 02:33
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If you can catch them tapped out with a rabblemaster you get value. With this fake card they could just untap and then kill it.
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May 5, 2015 02:38
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I dont think that Card is absolutely nuts but not every deck that plays red cards is going to be red deck wins and there are in fact strong cards that aren't just the most powerful drop on curve.
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May 5, 2015 02:38
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I can't imagine any other deck that would care more about face damage.
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May 5, 2015 02:39
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mcmagic posted:The fake Chandra dies that too. Exactly?
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May 5, 2015 02:41
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"Every rare/mythic is made with competitive play in mind." - 90% of this thread.
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May 5, 2015 02:45
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Count Bleck posted:"Every rare/mythic is made with competitive play in mind." - 90% of this thread. Oh sorry I'll bring up the appropriate post: This will go great in my Mono-red Shamans EDH deck.
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May 5, 2015 02:49
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we have already established the card isn't real can we at least have this argument when the actual card is spoiled
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May 5, 2015 02:50
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Orange Fluffy Sheep posted:Oh sorry I'll bring up the appropriate post: Also I am sad that card isn't real, it's sweet. forbidden lesbian posted:we have already established the card isn't real can we at least have this argument when the actual card is spoiled
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May 5, 2015 02:50
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Ya'll are acting like she's Tibalt and she's more like Venser. She's not JaceTMS but her transformation is something you can naturally do. I don't give a gently caress about standard but people told me the most recent 2/2 for 3 phoneix was playable and this card certainly does more than most of those.
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May 5, 2015 02:50
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Sigma-X posted:Ya'll are acting like she's Tibalt and she's more like Venser. She's not JaceTMS but her transformation is something you can naturally do. I don't give a gently caress about standard but people told me the most recent 2/2 for 3 phoneix was playable and this card certainly does more than most of those. Flamewake is fringe playable.
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May 5, 2015 02:52
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MM2 is looking pretty terrible so far.
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May 5, 2015 02:53
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Spiderdrake posted:Is it any worse than any other spoiler season argument? yes, actually, yes it is
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Irony Be My Shield posted:I can't imagine any other deck that would care more about face damage. There are whispers from long ago, that there were decks called "Jund" and "Naya" but I don't put stock into rumors from soothsayers. Do you? forbidden lesbian posted:yes, actually, yes it is This isn't a challenge to prove me wrong, please, but I can't think of anything more useless than arguing about fake cards so I agree with this
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May 5, 2015 02:53
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Sigh, not going to that lgs for Monday night standard anymore. Takes 40 minutes to get there, normally 5 rounds. Today it was four. Lost round one, asked the coordinator about prize support. Even if I stayed for all three hours and won everything, I'd get three packs. Did not seem worth it, especially after a guy's weird homebrew deck destroyed my red deck due to utterly lovely draws and mana screw two games in a row. Hour and a half of driving isn'tworth that.
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May 5, 2015 02:55
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rabidsquid posted:This isn't a challenge to prove me wrong, please, but I can't think of anything more useless than arguing about fake cards so I agree with this An argument about a fake card where half the people misread the fake card in the first place, to boot.
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May 5, 2015 02:57
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rabidsquid posted:There are whispers from long ago, that there were decks called "Jund" and "Naya" but I don't put stock into rumors from soothsayers. Do you?
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May 5, 2015 02:58
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After hearing about all the MM1 hype I figured that it would probably be worth my while to buy 6 boxes of MM2 but yeah, right now I'm not that excited by it. I've already paid for them though so I'm pot committed.
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May 5, 2015 03:01
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Irony Be My Shield posted:Oh I see, the card with a heavily red mana cost and which cares about casting red spells will do better in a deck that runs less red. I can't believe that my joke was so handily disarmed. My shame is eternal you win a prize for being the 10,000 person to sincerely argue with a joke I made though.
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bhsman posted:Decks that don't have blockers out early or don't run many creatures at all? Those decks, in place of the creatures they're not running, usually run creature removal.
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