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Bizarro Kanyon posted:If Rubio pulls in the nomination, Julian Castro will be the VP choice in a heartbeat. Maybe? He's likely on Hillary's short list already, but I think you vastly overestimate how many Latinos would vote for a Republican just because he's also Latino, that wouldn't have been pretty likely to vote for a generic Republican candidate already.
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Cubey posted:e: whatever, I'm going to drop this derail and I apologize for starting it. Truth hurts, doesn't it? Seriously you're pretty dang ignorant of actual European politics as opposed to like idealized 70s European politics.
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Do Not Resuscitate posted:lol...all this sturm und drang from a dude who has been "paying attention" to politics for all of five days. Go get 'em, champ. It's almost like you didn't read the rest of my post. Good job, 'champ'. I voted every chance I got from the first time I was eligible to vote until I threw my hands up when Obama did gently caress-all that I elected him for in his first term. I'm not new to politics at all, I just have a reinvigorated interest in them now that there's a politician who, while unlikely to win, at least might stir up some kind of conversations that lead to change. DEEP STATE PLOT fucked around with this message at 02:22 on May 5, 2015 |
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AARP LARPer fucked around with this message at 03:44 on Jan 22, 2016 |
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Do Not Resuscitate posted:But I did? Dang, you're really worked up. Like the previous poster said, just relax and enjoy the spectacle--it is what it is. I'd enjoy the spectacle a lot more if it wasn't just a bunch of out-of-touch rich assholes pissing the future of this country down their legs. The debates will probably be humorous though, I guess? It'll be interesting to see how they try and spin Hillary into winning debates with Sanders, provided he lasts into them.
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May 5, 2015 02:31
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Cubey posted:Because I started paying attention to politics after Sanders announced his candidacy, and when I did so I started reading a shitton of Clinton supporters talking about how great she is and it just pisses me off seeing people rally around such a phony. I stopped paying attention to politics after Obama's first term was such a wet fart because it pissed me off too much. I prolly shouldn't get so worked up, but it's hard not to when I so badly want things to get better and it seems there is no hope of that happening at all. Get the anxiety meds that look like offbrand sudafed, because you need them. No. Seriously, even a few once a month can level you off. Now, i dont want to talk about "real America", but Bernie Sanders is uniquely unqualified for the Executive. He wanted gays to serve openly as test cases, thereby opening them up to sabotage and bad press like the Tuskegee airmen. He may be a good person, but he sucks at politics.
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Cubey posted:It's almost like you didn't read the rest of my post. Good job, 'champ'. I voted every chance I got from the first time I was eligible to vote until I threw my hands up when Obama did gently caress-all that I elected him for in his first term. I'm not new to politics at all, I just have a reinvigorated interest in them now that there's a politician who, while unlikely to win, at least might stir up some kind of conversations that lead to change. The 111th Congress and Obama actually got a whole lot done. You just can't be bothered to actually pay attention, apparently.
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Rygar201 posted:The 111th Congress and Obama actually got a whole lot done. You just can't be bothered to actually pay attention, apparently. Yes, and I'm definitely looking forward to us losing millions of more jobs when Obama signs the Trans Pacific Partnership.
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Cubey posted:Yes, and I'm definitely looking forward to us losing millions of more jobs when Obama signs the Trans Pacific Partnership. I too believe things on no basis whatsoever. Did you hear it also creates vampires?
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May 5, 2015 03:08
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Nintendo Kid posted:I too believe things on no basis whatsoever. Did you hear it also creates vampires? I've been looking for a reason to stock up on wooden stakes and crucifixes.
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Bizarro Kanyon posted:If Rubio pulls in the nomination, Julian Castro will be the VP choice in a heartbeat. Yes, I mean, two years in a high-profile post like HUD Secretary, that definitely provides the kind of weighty experience that makes him a shoo-in for a presidential ticket This forum's boner for the Castro brothers seems kind of ridiculous sometimes. They're definitely up and comers, but people seem to expect them to assume the throne of America in the next year or two. They have plenty of time. TheScott2K posted:Is it not obvious that Rubio is running for the next cycle's frontrunner? Not really? I'm sure he has his mind on the long term, but he has a real shot at winning this year and it's not like he's going to turn it down if he gets it.
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VanSandman posted:Was somebody really defending accelerationism again? Not truthfully, I was just pissing about because I'm unhappy with how this country is run.
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Hey Cubey if you want to make a difference every post in the Bernie Sanders thread gets him like a few cents: http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3712639
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MrKatharsis posted:Hey Cubey if you want to make a difference every post in the Bernie Sanders thread gets him like a few cents: http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3712639 Man I've already got several pages of posts in that bitch. More importantly I have signed up to volunteer for his campaign and when I get some spare cash I will also donate to it because I'm a firm believer of putting your money where your mouth is.
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Bob Ojeda posted:Yes, I mean, two years in a high-profile post like HUD Secretary, that definitely provides the kind of weighty experience that makes him a shoo-in for a presidential ticket It's not like you need that many skills to be VP. I mean yeah ideally maybe you'd want someone with lots of Senate experience but Hillary already has that.
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Bob Ojeda posted:Yes, I mean, two years in a high-profile post like HUD Secretary, that definitely provides the kind of weighty experience that makes him a shoo-in for a presidential ticket  They're handsome.
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May 5, 2015 03:25
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TheScott2K posted:Is it not obvious that Rubio is running for the next cycle's frontrunner? Not at all, it's much easier to win when you aren't running against an incumbent President.
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If only the United States could elect a socialist president like Bernie, rather than a center-left pol like Clinton. Then, we might undergo economic growth like that of those socialist countries of Western Europe. The US could have a median income of $33k, like France, rather than the $44k we suffer under now. We'd be much better off then.
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nrook posted:If only the United States could elect a socialist president like Bernie, rather than a center-left pol like Clinton. Then, we might undergo economic growth like that of those socialist countries of Western Europe. The US could have a median income of $33k, like France, rather than the $44k we suffer under now. We'd be much better off then. I care a lot more about fighting poverty, of which right now the US has a rate over twice that of France.
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Correct me if i'm wrong, but it seems like maybe measuring income by dividing gross domestic product by the midyear population might not be a super accurate method during a time when widespread income inequality is causing the middle class to implode in america. edit: also I think a couple of us might have tens of thousands of dollars in student loan debt. Ignite Memories fucked around with this message at 03:52 on May 5, 2015 |
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Ignite Memories posted:Correct me if i'm wrong, but it seems like maybe measuring income by dividing gross domestic product by the midyear population might not be a super accurate method during a time when widespread income inequality is causing the middle class to implode in america. You're right, I should use a better measure, like median income. Oh wait, I did! If you can find 20th percentile income somewhere please tell me, I tried looking for it but couldn't find anything.
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Ignite Memories posted:edit: also I think a couple of us might have tens of thousands of dollars in student loan debt. Whaddup crippling student debt bro  
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Oh ok, I thought the chart represented the information written above it. Carry on.
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Ignite Memories posted:Oh ok, I thought the chart represented the information written above it. Carry on. Ah, no numbers then. Oh well.
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Last night, I woke up in a cold sweat when I realized we're still 18 months away from the election. I don't know if I have the fortitude to make it.
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nrook posted:You're right, I should use a better measure, like median income. Well, France has roughly a third the poverty rate of the US, 5-8% vs 15-20%, depending on the year. My understanding from piecing together a few sources is that France's poverty level is defined as being below half the median income, so $16k, while in the US, the federal poverty level is $11k. So it appears a significantly larger percentage of people are below $11k in income in the US than are below $16k in France. That doesn't paint a rosy picture.
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Is there any chance of Sanders putting up a believable primary challenge against Clinton? Not even winning, just the outcome being perceived as in doubt to a reasonable person.
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nrook posted:If only the United States could elect a socialist president like Bernie, rather than a center-left pol like Clinton. Then, we might undergo economic growth like that of those socialist countries of Western Europe. The US could have a median income of $33k, like France, rather than the $44k we suffer under now. We'd be much better off then. Yeah, because there are no other fundamental differences between the US and French economies besides their "socialism."
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eternalname posted:Is there any chance of Sanders putting up a believable primary challenge against Clinton? Not even winning, just the outcome being perceived as in doubt to a reasonable person. No.
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eternalname posted:Is there any chance of Sanders putting up a believable primary challenge against Clinton? Not even winning, just the outcome being perceived as in doubt to a reasonable person. While I'd love to say yes, realistically probably not. However, Obama came from absolutely nowhere to win, so who the hell knows. I do know with certainty that he definitely won't win if people don't throw support his way, so throw some support his way! At the very least, I hope he can bring some conversations that matter into politics.
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eternalname posted:Is there any chance of Sanders putting up a believable primary challenge against Clinton? Not even winning, just the outcome being perceived as in doubt to a reasonable person. I'd say his campaign will be realistically over by Super Tuesday if not much sooner.
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Nintendo Kid posted:I'd say his campaign will be realistically over by Super Tuesday if not much sooner. I'm glad you weighed in by saying baseless speculation with authority.
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Cubey posted:However, Obama came from absolutely nowhere to win you really did just start paying attention to politics in the last week, didn't you?
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Theoretically, Sanders would need to win Iowa to have a shot at the nomination. The Iowa caucus has a strong progressive streak, and that's the only early state he could really compete in. NH, SC, and NV are less friendly ground for a socialist. Winning Iowa seems pretty drat unlikely to me.
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