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Snooze Cruise
Feb 16, 2013

hey look,
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I wonder when the netflix series is going to introduce Mike, it was a little weird to not see Matt's twin brother in all the flashbacks, but he is a very important character.

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Shageletic
Jul 25, 2007

BottledBodhisvata posted:

That's the one where Karen gets AIDS, right?

loving Kevin Smith

EDIT: Here's what we may have to look forward due to this douche

quote:

Matt is visited by Karen, who reveals that she apparently has HIV from her time as a porn star, just as his partner Foggy Nelson is accused of murdering a wealthy divorcee he was having an affair with after she seemingly turned into a demon. Rosalynd Sharpe who is their boss and Foggy's mother fires Foggy to avoid having his arrest affect the financial future of their law firm and her cold-hearted devotion to her career causes Matt to quit the firm out of disgust. Daredevil asks for assistance from the Black Widow, but then attacks her, apparently convinced of Macabes's tale. Although he contemplates throwing the baby off a roof, he stops himself from killing the child.

EDIT 2: Sorry Deadpool, didn't see your post.

Shageletic fucked around with this message at 16:04 on May 5, 2015

Snak
Oct 10, 2005

I myself will carry you to the Gates of Valhalla...
You will ride eternal,
shiny and chrome.
Grimey Drawer

Shageletic posted:

loving Kevin Smith

EDIT: Here's what we may have to look forward due to this douche

quote:

Matt is visited by Karen, who reveals that she apparently has HIV from her time as a porn star, just as his partner Foggy Nelson is accused of murdering a wealthy divorcee he was having an affair with after she seemingly turned into a demon. Rosalynd Sharpe who is their boss and Foggy's mother fires Foggy to avoid having his arrest affect the financial future of their law firm and her cold-hearted devotion to her career causes Matt to quit the firm out of disgust. Daredevil asks for assistance from the Black Widow, but then attacks her, apparently convinced of Macabes's tale. Although he contemplates throwing the baby off a roof, he stops himself from killing the child.

EDIT 2: Sorry Deadpool, didn't see your post.

Well we shouldn't have to worry about the bolded part, since they don't work for Foggy's mother in this continuity. She wanted him to be a butcher. I think she just liked the idea of free ham.

dj_clawson
Jan 12, 2004

We are all sinners in the eyes of these popsicle sticks.
Am I the only one who was 90% sure Luke Cage was the a Mortal Combat villain before reading this thread?
(or maybe Street Fighter. I get them mixed up in my old age of 33)

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

That's Johnny Cage.

counterfeitsaint
Feb 26, 2010

I'm a girl, and you're
gnomes, and it's like
what? Yikes.

dj_clawson posted:

Am I the only one who was 90% sure Luke Cage was the a Mortal Combat villain before reading this thread?
(or maybe Street Fighter. I get them mixed up in my old age of 33)

Nope, every time someone talks about this Luke Cage dude, I think "Why are we suddenly talking about Mortal Combat?" as well.

bobkatt013
Oct 8, 2006

You’re telling me Peter Parker is ...... Spider-man!?
Luke Cage is the reason why Nicolas Coppola chose the name Cage

Snak
Oct 10, 2005

I myself will carry you to the Gates of Valhalla...
You will ride eternal,
shiny and chrome.
Grimey Drawer

bobkatt013 posted:

Luke Cage is the reason why Nicolas Coppola chose the name Cage

Nick Cage is such a nerd. He really should be allowed to be in the MCU just a little bit. it's too bad his comic book movies were so terrible...

BottledBodhisvata
Jul 26, 2013

by Lowtax

Snak posted:

Nick Cage is such a nerd. He really should be allowed to be in the MCU just a little bit. it's too bad his comic book movies were so terrible...

The second Ghost Rider was cool.

Snak
Oct 10, 2005

I myself will carry you to the Gates of Valhalla...
You will ride eternal,
shiny and chrome.
Grimey Drawer

BottledBodhisvata posted:

The second Ghost Rider was cool.

I mean, there were parts of it that looked cool. It was still dumb as gently caress. What was that weird part at the end where any time Ghost Rider killed someone it was like a Fatality from Mortal Kombat. Even though it was daytime, he would walk up to a dude and then it would be pitch black with just the other guy standing in a spotlight. It was bizarre as gently caress, and I assume it was supposed to look cool in 3d.

Jedit
Dec 10, 2011

Proudly supporting vanilla legends 1994-2014

BottledBodhisvata posted:

It's a classic ninja move. You can't punch somebody who is on fire!

Unless you're Scottish, in which case you don't just punch people who are on fire, you kick them in the testicles so hard that you break your foot.

Snak
Oct 10, 2005

I myself will carry you to the Gates of Valhalla...
You will ride eternal,
shiny and chrome.
Grimey Drawer
Actually while rewatching it to double-check the source of the sparks, I noticed that Matt actually punches Nobu in the face while he's on fire. At least I think that's supposed to be what happens. It's a very fake looking stunt punch, because the other stunt guy is on fire, but there's a sound effect and clotheslines Nobu. The first time i saw that scene, I though Nobu just like, fell over from being on fire and exhausting himself kicking.

dj_clawson
Jan 12, 2004

We are all sinners in the eyes of these popsicle sticks.

Snak posted:

Nick Cage is such a nerd. He really should be allowed to be in the MCU just a little bit. it's too bad his comic book movies were so terrible...

This movie, from what I understand, explains why Nick Cage shouldn't be in Superhero movies. Or maybe it doesn't. It's not actually playing anywhere near me.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2753778/

Snak
Oct 10, 2005

I myself will carry you to the Gates of Valhalla...
You will ride eternal,
shiny and chrome.
Grimey Drawer
okay, but Nick Cage didn't really have a lot of creative input on Superman Lives, did he?

dj_clawson
Jan 12, 2004

We are all sinners in the eyes of these popsicle sticks.

Snak posted:

okay, but Nick Cage didn't really have a lot of creative input on Superman Lives, did he?

We won't know until the movie goes up on Netflix, I guess. And as we learned from Kevin Smith, comics superfan doesn't equal good writer.

terrez
Mar 20, 2012
Hello, I just started watching Daredevil and I'm on ep. 5. This is the most brutal burn and cringey awkward moment I have ever witnessed on television



I am so sorry Foggy :smith:x100

I had to take a 5 minute break because I felt so bad for him :(

Snak
Oct 10, 2005

I myself will carry you to the Gates of Valhalla...
You will ride eternal,
shiny and chrome.
Grimey Drawer
what if he had just punched her in the nose. Would have laughed my rear end off.

I don't actually dislike Karen, though.

Slow News Day
Jul 4, 2007

Snak posted:

I don't actually dislike Karen, though.

You can't. She's awesome in literally every way.

Woll actually dates a guy who has choroideremia IRL.

dj_clawson
Jan 12, 2004

We are all sinners in the eyes of these popsicle sticks.

Snak posted:

what if he had just punched her in the nose. Would have laughed my rear end off.

I don't actually dislike Karen, though.

I hate her but I also like her, so... yeah.

cosmic gumbo
Mar 26, 2005

IMA
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Small touch I liked was that "The Power Broker" was the only visible book when Fisk was speaking with Urich. Speaks very well to Fisk's ambitions with re-designing NYC.

mikeraskol
May 3, 2006

Oh yeah. I was killing you.

Christ Pseudoscientist posted:

Small touch I liked was that "The Power Broker" was the only visible book when Fisk was speaking with Urich. Speaks very well to Fisk's ambitions with re-designing NYC.

I didn't notice that, that's amazing.

Fisk wasn't nearly as evil as Robert Moses though.

nelson
Apr 12, 2009
College Slice
Just finished watching the series. I thought it was awesome overall. There were a few nit picks though.

The Nobu fight was great except when Nobu was on fire. It looked survivable but apparently they don't teach "stop, drop and roll" in ninja school.

I liked the street clothes better than the suit (well, the suit itself was fine except the mask part which looked really silly).

DD should have dodged more of Fisk's blows in the last episode. Fisk is supposed to be super strong and DD is supposed to be super agile. If Fisk connects it's supposed to be a short fight and living because you can dodge comes across as more believable than living because your jaw is made of granite.

Other than those small annoyances (and the slow episode of sad angry Foggy, which was believable but not fun to watch) the series was the best thing on TV. Also the spoiler policy I thought worked well. I could read the first few pages without worry. Thanks for whoever came up with that policy.

Frostwerks
Sep 24, 2007

by Lowtax

nelson posted:

Just finished watching the series. I thought it was awesome overall. There were a few nit picks though.

The Nobu fight was great except when Nobu was on fire. It looked survivable but apparently they don't teach "stop, drop and roll" in ninja school.

I liked the street clothes better than the suit (well, the suit itself was fine except the mask part which looked really silly).

DD should have dodged more of Fisk's blows in the last episode. Fisk is supposed to be super strong and DD is supposed to be super agile. If Fisk connects it's supposed to be a short fight and living because you can dodge comes across as more believable than living because your jaw is made of granite.

Other than those small annoyances (and the slow episode of sad angry Foggy, which was believable but not fun to watch) the series was the best thing on TV. Also the spoiler policy I thought worked well. I could read the first few pages without worry. Thanks for whoever came up with that policy.

I thought him being on fire was the only cool part of the ninja fight after all.

NecroMonster
Jan 4, 2009

Nobu was in deep poo poo with "his people" because of the loss of The Black Sky. He almost certainly expected to die, and knew Fisk was setting him up.

I mean, even if he did kill Matt and also managed to escape from Fisk, he was more than likely a dead man anyway.

nelson
Apr 12, 2009
College Slice

Frostwerks posted:

I thought him being on fire was the only cool part of the ninja fight after all.

To be clear, him being on fire was okay. Him dying from it wasn't (yes, his clothes were on fire, that doesn't mean his body has ignited). Maybe he IS still alive from the way they said "let him burn" as opposed to "make sure he's dead" (plus the talk about slowing the heartbeat at the beginning of the fight). If Nobu was just pretending to be dead then I'm fine with it.

nelson fucked around with this message at 04:31 on May 7, 2015

Stugazi
Mar 1, 2004

Who me, Bitter?
Awesome series.

I don't like the suit. His street clothes look better. I hope they tweak it.

So many great characters. Wesley was one of the best. Really bummed he ate it.

Early episodes DD was super agile bad rear end with pre cognitive fighting and still took a beating. It was good action and believable edge of your seat stuff. Last couple episodes he got hit by a fat rear end kingpin, an old lady and roughed up by street punks. That was disappointing/lame. I hope they keep him on the edge of super human vs just a dude in long johns who can do spin kicks given enough room.

Snak
Oct 10, 2005

I myself will carry you to the Gates of Valhalla...
You will ride eternal,
shiny and chrome.
Grimey Drawer
Concerning the upcoming Iron Fist series, someone earlier in this thread speculated that they might reuse sets from Marco Polo. I was thinking about that and then I remembered that Netflix is also producing a Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon sequel. Michelle Yeoh is returning and Donnie Yen is costarring, so it will probably have the budget for some decent sets. There's no information at all about where they are planning to shoot Iron Fist though, so it's all speculation at this point.

I just read vol 1 of Iron Fist: The Living Weapon, which is the most recent 12 issue series, and the first few issues of The Immortal Iron Fist vol 1. They both seem pretty awesome to me. I dig martial arts movies, but the fight scenes in Daredevil gave me a reason to get excited about a martial arts tv series. I have never see fight choreography this constantly good in a show.

Also, holy poo poo I did not realize that Daredevil's stunt double is the same guy who was Chris Evan's stunt double in The Winter Soldier.

dj_clawson
Jan 12, 2004

We are all sinners in the eyes of these popsicle sticks.

Stugazi posted:

Awesome series.

I don't like the suit. His street clothes look better. I hope they tweak it.

So many great characters. Wesley was one of the best. Really bummed he ate it.

Early episodes DD was super agile bad rear end with pre cognitive fighting and still took a beating. It was good action and believable edge of your seat stuff. Last couple episodes he got hit by a fat rear end kingpin, an old lady and roughed up by street punks. That was disappointing/lame. I hope they keep him on the edge of super human vs just a dude in long johns who can do spin kicks given enough room.

Daredevil is really just becoming Daredevil. He never finished his ninja training, and he's basically been out of training since he was what, 9? So the arc of the season shows how he gets better at fighting, or at least what to wear and what weapons to show up with. Also, seeing an old Jewish investment banker take him down with a taser was pretty fantastic.

tsob
Sep 26, 2006

Chalalala~

Stugazi posted:

Early episodes DD was super agile bad rear end with pre cognitive fighting and still took a beating. It was good action and believable edge of your seat stuff. Last couple episodes he got hit by a fat rear end kingpin, an old lady and roughed up by street punks. That was disappointing/lame.

The old lady was more than likely the head of a clan of mystical ninja from another dimension and could probably kick the rear end of both Stick and Matt at the same time even on their best day without breaking a sweat. Even if you're just talking about the visual image, devoid of any in-universe context she just gave him a slap when he wasn't really expecting it and then disappeared. It's not exactly the end of the world given that it happened in the span of seconds and was far from the linchpin of even the scene it takes place in, never mind the episode. The fat rear end kingpin had also been built up pretty well by watching him no-sell and then beat a Russian mobster to death among other things. He was hardly a lightweight in the punch department. The world's strongest men contenders are almost always rather tubby looking fuckers too, so it's hardly unrealistic that Fisk could be hiding a lot of strength under that suit and doughy image.

BiggerBoat
Sep 26, 2007

Don't you tell me my business again.

dj_clawson posted:

Daredevil is really just becoming Daredevil. He never finished his ninja training, and he's basically been out of training since he was what, 9?

Where'd you get that from? I got the impression he trained a lot.

Burning_Monk
Jan 11, 2005
Mad, Bad, and Dangerous to know

BiggerBoat posted:

Where'd you get that from? I got the impression he trained a lot.

That is when Stick left. He probably did keep up training but he wasn't learning anything new.

surc
Aug 17, 2004

Stugazi posted:

Early episodes DD was super agile bad rear end with pre cognitive fighting and still took a beating. It was good action and believable edge of your seat stuff. Last couple episodes he got hit by a fat rear end kingpin, an old lady and roughed up by street punks. That was disappointing/lame. I hope they keep him on the edge of super human vs just a dude in long johns who can do spin kicks given enough room.

Those were both supervillians though, same rules apply as to superheroes. Otherwise the argument is that Fisk is fat so he shouldn't be able to fight a blind guy. Fisk is just less obviously super-powered than the dude who is blind and can still see.

Also, see mystical extra-dimensional ninjas for Madam Gao slapping him.

nelson
Apr 12, 2009
College Slice
To me, fighting Fisk would be a lot like fighting Mike Tyson in Mike Tyson's Punch Out. He's not invincible but if he hits you, you're screwed. If you can keep dodging and counter punching you have a chance. This is what the (last episode) fight should have been.

nelson fucked around with this message at 20:42 on May 7, 2015

mikeraskol
May 3, 2006

Oh yeah. I was killing you.
Matt was recovering from being at death's door roughly 10 minutes before that fight

nelson
Apr 12, 2009
College Slice

mikeraskol posted:

Matt was recovering from being at death's door roughly 10 minutes before that fight

I meant the last episode fight, not the one after he fought Nobu.

mikeraskol
May 3, 2006

Oh yeah. I was killing you.

nelson posted:

I meant the last episode fight, not the one after he fought Nobu.

I was referring to that fight as well and exaggerating regarding the 10 minutes thing. You don't recover from almost dying to being fully in fight shape within a day or two.

Stugazi
Mar 1, 2004

Who me, Bitter?
In the early part of the season, specifically the shipping container scene, he was a wholly different character than he was the last couple episodes when anyone he encountered put hands on him without much trouble (extra dimensional ninjas and super powered fatasses aside).

It's a great show and I am sperging out about these details. I hope for next season DD maintains a certain baseline and if he's gonna get stomped on the competition is overwhelming in number, has an unfair advantage or has their own explicitly defined super powers.

AbsolutelySane
Jul 2, 2012

Stugazi posted:

In the early part of the season, specifically the shipping container scene, he was a wholly different character than he was the last couple episodes when anyone he encountered put hands on him without much trouble (extra dimensional ninjas and super powered fatasses aside).

It's a great show and I am sperging out about these details. I hope for next season DD maintains a certain baseline and if he's gonna get stomped on the competition is overwhelming in number, has an unfair advantage or has their own explicitly defined super powers.

He was increasingly injured as the show went on, so, naturally, he'd be slower and get hit more. The shipping container scene is pretty much the only scene where he's uninjured. They make it a point to show his collection of new scars, unhealed wounds, and stitches throughout the season. That he doesn't just shrug them off and magically fight at 100% all the time makes a lot of sense and is clearly set up.

mikeraskol
May 3, 2006

Oh yeah. I was killing you.

Stugazi posted:

In the early part of the season, specifically the shipping container scene, he was a wholly different character than he was the last couple episodes when anyone he encountered put hands on him without much trouble (extra dimensional ninjas and super powered fatasses aside).

It's a great show and I am sperging out about these details. I hope for next season DD maintains a certain baseline and if he's gonna get stomped on the competition is overwhelming in number, has an unfair advantage or has their own explicitly defined super powers.

Sperg out on the correct details then such as the increasing amount of injuries and scars and the fact that Nobu almost loving killed him just a few days before that last fight with Kingpin. Meditation healing only gets you so far.

These complaints are so weird.

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dj_clawson
Jan 12, 2004

We are all sinners in the eyes of these popsicle sticks.

mikeraskol posted:

Sperg out on the correct details then such as the increasing amount of injuries and scars and the fact that Nobu almost loving killed him just a few days before that last fight with Kingpin. Meditation healing only gets you so far.

These complaints are so weird.

I guess it speaks to the realism the show is trying to invoke that we're having conversations about this. I saw Age of Ultron yesterday and everyone in it took at least one hit that should have shattered all of their bones and they were all just fine.

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