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triplexpac posted:Check out this cozy little abode in Toronto, perfect for a new married couple! That's a pretty expensive shed. They must have a lot of stuff that needs stowing away.
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# ? May 5, 2015 14:25 |
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Unless you have some really high paying job that only exists in Toronto or Vancouver I don't understand why people stay there, specially if they have any dreams of owning a home. If you make enough money to even be tempted by home ownership why don't you take CI's advise and just move somewhere better where you can probably get paid more AND buy a house.??
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# ? May 5, 2015 16:04 |
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- Living close to your friends and family in Toronto or Vancouver - Not having a crippling mortgage - Owning a house Choose two.
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# ? May 5, 2015 16:11 |
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Canadian dream is owning a $600k mortgage in Barrie and commuting to a $50k job in Toronto.
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# ? May 5, 2015 16:38 |
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Baronjutter posted:Unless you have some really high paying job that only exists in Toronto or Vancouver I don't understand why people stay there, specially if they have any dreams of owning a home. If you make enough money to even be tempted by home ownership why don't you take CI's advise and just move somewhere better where you can probably get paid more AND buy a house.?? Are there jobs outside of major metro areas like Toronto or Vancouver? I just assumed that houses were cheap elsewhere because no one made any money.
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# ? May 5, 2015 16:51 |
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triplexpac posted:Are there jobs outside of major metro areas like Toronto or Vancouver? I just assumed that houses were cheap elsewhere because no one made any money. It's not the jobs per se, it's the social amenties of living in a "world class city" Excuse my while I go laugh myself silly out back.
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# ? May 5, 2015 17:08 |
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http://www.theprovince.com/news/Daughter+mysterious+developer+president+Liberal+party/11028325/story.htmlquote:
Haha this is so awesome.
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# ? May 5, 2015 17:21 |
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Reverse Centaur posted:So glad I bought a shoebox condo so I can get on the equity ladder and make that easy step up to real home ownership. God loving dammit West Vancouver is poo poo, the West End is way better.
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# ? May 5, 2015 17:21 |
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with some exceptions it is way more difficult to find work in smaller cities because their economies are usually focused on 1-2 sectors and the turnover is low so unless you work in those specific sectors, like technology in waterloo or government in ottawa, you're going to have trouble finding work. even then, people with good paying jobs in a smaller city aren't going to give those up very often. there's not the same lateral movement you would get in a big city
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# ? May 5, 2015 17:26 |
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cowofwar posted:Canadian dream is owning a $600k mortgage in Barrie for the privledge of commuting to a $50k job in Toronto. Ftfy, this is seriously our country right now. It sucks real bad.
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RBC posted:with some exceptions it is way more difficult to find work in smaller cities because their economies are usually focused on 1-2 sectors and the turnover is low Interestingly, the unemployment rate is 7.3 in Toronto, 7.2 in Ottawa, 6.7 in Kingston, 5.5 in Waterloo, 5.1 in Peterborough and 4.8 in Guelph. Actually, yes please stay in the big cities, we're crowded enough out here as it is.
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Ikantski posted:Interestingly, the unemployment rate is 7.3 in Toronto, 7.2 in Ottawa, 6.7 in Kingston, 5.5 in Waterloo, 5.1 in Peterborough and 4.8 in Guelph. Actually, yes please stay in the big cities, we're crowded enough out here as it is. unemployment rates aren't usually all that accurate i moved to toronto from peterborough for work and jesus christ the situation is night and day. that city is hosed
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Gorau posted:West Vancouver is poo poo, the West End is way better. West Van is pretty amazing, c'mon. At least it has something tangible to justify high prices (nice beaches/amazing views), unlike a neighbourhood like Shaughnessy, which is "rich people live here because rich people live here."
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# ? May 5, 2015 19:04 |
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The most scenic bike ride in Vancouver is along marine drive to horseshoe bay. But gently caress living there. We need to toll the gently caress out of the lions gate or whatever they replace it with.
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Baronjutter posted:Unless you have some really high paying job that only exists in Toronto or Vancouver I don't understand why people stay there, specially if they have any dreams of owning a home. If you make enough money to even be tempted by home ownership why don't you take CI's advise and just move somewhere better where you can probably get paid more AND buy a house.?? For a lot of second generation Vancouverites, eventual inheritance is keeping us from uprooting. My wife's friend just got $550,000 from her parent's Kitsilano home sale, so she can now afford something herself. I truly wonder about people who have no hope though. I think someone on the goon meet thread said a lot of friends are seriously just planning suicide when the being a starving ex-student thing gets unbearable.
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Reverse Centaur posted:I think someone on the goon meet thread said a lot of friends are seriously just planning suicide when the being a starving ex-student thing gets unbearable. The bubble will burst when the last bear throws in the towel.
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Reverse Centaur posted:For a lot of second generation Vancouverites, eventual inheritance is keeping us from uprooting. My wife's friend just got $550,000 from her parent's Kitsilano home sale, so she can now afford something herself. Its funny me and my wife are both only-children and I have all my extended family here but I've pretty much never though in inheritance. I just assume boomers will some how spend everything and grandparents will require expensive care. I could have over a million, or nothing, coming. I guess I should start thinking about this, assume I'm getting everything and their houses will go up in value and go out and get me a mortgage that absolutely depends on this. People should really bank less on inheritance. Sometimes the will is a surprise and that 50% share you thought you'd' get turns out to be 25%. Sometimes your "rich parents" turn out to have a poo poo ton of debt they were too proud to ever tell anyone about. Sometimes in the last few years of her life mom suddenly becomes a gambling addict and blows through over a million in a couple years and ends up homeless and in debt and still in denial about her gambling addiction. Sometimes your parents just never die but become more and more expensive. People banking and planning their finances around inheritance seem morbidly greedy, plus really stupid.
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# ? May 5, 2015 19:39 |
Not greedy and stupid, just the only option. And yeah even though my parents have done alright I don't expect them to have anything left. It's my father in law's real estate dealings that have me feeling relatively OK with staying here. But of course that can end with a divorce. If it was up to me alone we would have moved to Calgary back in 2005ish. Very reluctantly.
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# ? May 5, 2015 19:52 |
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That's the problem with most of Canada, it's actually not a great place to live. There's not a lot of options even if money isn't a huge issue, and if you actually want a job you have to deal with having a good job in an ok but insanely expensive city, a bad job in an ok city, or a good job in a garbage city.
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# ? May 5, 2015 19:54 |
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Boomers are going to live a long time. I think longer than people expect. There's going to be a multi decade gap between when older Millenials are having kids and looking around for a larger place (i.e. now) and when their inheritance arrives. Waiting for an inheritance isn't a real plan and people can't tread water that long. If people are lucky I guess their parents will cosign a mortgage for them or just loan them money? That's really the only possible way I can see how anyone could buy a house at this point.
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RBC posted:unemployment rates aren't usually all that accurate Please explain. Is it that there's less unemployment in peterborough but the jobs that are there can't really be lived on?
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cowofwar posted:Canadian dream is owning a $600k mortgage in Barrie and commuting to a $50k job in Toronto. This is pretty much the case for most of my coworkers. Everyone who works here comes from Brampton, Barrie, Innisfil, Aliston and Newmarket. We got a few people who own property up in Coburg and Belleville where they stay for weekends and then rent out an apartment here for the weekdays.
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# ? May 5, 2015 22:59 |
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http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/social-housing-to-have-separate-entrance-to-vancouver-high-rise-1.3061196 Holy loving poo poo this thread. Vancouverites are loving assholes of the nth degree
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Cultural Imperial posted:http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/social-housing-to-have-separate-entrance-to-vancouver-high-rise-1.3061196 They did the same thing in NYC.
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Cultural Imperial posted:http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/social-housing-to-have-separate-entrance-to-vancouver-high-rise-1.3061196 Really? You don't think they do this absolutely everywhere they build buildings with mixed standard and social housing? Newsflash: No one in the entire world generally wants to mix with those of a significantly lower income bracket, particularly when said low income bracket is low enough where finding feces in the elevator is real concern.
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# ? May 6, 2015 01:15 |
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^ and this is why the dtes is allowed to exist. Gotta put those people somewhere
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# ? May 6, 2015 01:16 |
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Yeah don't want animals who make only $50k to $60k a year destroying the place.
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# ? May 6, 2015 01:28 |
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There is a rezone application for a new building with a poor door at 2nd and Main as well. There was some discussion about the plans on an urban planning blog (price tags maybe?) and it looks like the justification for the poor door is to separate out the amenities (gym space and roof top patios) from the other non-amenity units. The poor door units have no access to the amenities. The idea I guess is that the non-market units are cheaper because they're not paying for the amenities. I have no idea if this is a valid reason or just an excuse (it sounds like an excuse).
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Bloody Hedgehog posted:Really? You don't think they do this absolutely everywhere they build buildings with mixed standard and social housing? I know a guy who lives in Woodwards and is constantly complaining about the amount of poo poo he finds in the elevators, lobby, stairwell, etc. The funny thing is he's a pornographer and hosts massive cocaine fueled orgies regularly?
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Cultural Imperial posted:http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/social-housing-to-have-separate-entrance-to-vancouver-high-rise-1.3061196 lol http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/dog-poop-samples-demanded-by-burnaby-apartment-landlord-1.3061379
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etalian posted:lol gently caress urban dog owners.
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etalian posted:lol They should extend that to a national dog DNA registry, test any turds left in public areas, and take away these shitlords' dog ownership rights forever. Come on Justin, put that in your platform, I'll vote LPC.
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# ? May 6, 2015 02:11 |
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An incontrovertible fact about rear end in a top hat Vancouverites: they care more about dogs than poor people. This will have hilarious consequences when the crash comes. In 2009 the battersea animal shelter in London was at over capacity and couldn't gas cats and dogs fast enough.
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# ? May 6, 2015 02:50 |
Around this time of year is when I start getting about 10 complaints per day about dogs roasting to death in cars (they never are) and disgusting homeless people that need to be dealt with. Also I always think of this tweet when elevator talk comes up
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Baronjutter posted:That's the problem with most of Canada, it's actually not a great place to live. There's not a lot of options even if money isn't a huge issue, and if you actually want a job you have to deal with having a good job in an ok but insanely expensive city, a bad job in an ok city, or a good job in a garbage city. How does it compare to the US? Cause a lot of cities in Canada, like Vancouver and Toronto, seem pretty nice and much cheaper to live in than NYC or San Francisco.
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Ccs posted:How does it compare to the US? Cause a lot of cities in Canada, like Vancouver and Toronto, seem pretty nice and much cheaper to live in than NYC or San Francisco. There are better jobs in those places and there are cheaper cities with similar jobs.
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Ccs posted:How does it compare to the US? Cause a lot of cities in Canada, like Vancouver and Toronto, seem pretty nice and much cheaper to live in than NYC or San Francisco. What made you think they were much cheaper? Besides logic of course. You named maybe the only two cities in the US that are close to as expensive as Vancouver and Toronto. But jobs in SF and NY pay much better, and are more plentiful, and you have far lower taxes, and SF's real estate is downright cheap compared to Vancouver's. Manhattan is the only area more expensive than Vancouver. UnfortunateSexFart fucked around with this message at 03:34 on May 6, 2015 |
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Hmm alright. Well, at least you guys got the universal health care thing going. That makes some of the higher taxes worth it.
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Jan posted:They should extend that to a national dog DNA registry, test any turds left in public areas, and take away these shitlords' dog ownership rights forever. On a related note lol:
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Ccs posted:Hmm alright. Well, at least you guys got the universal health care thing going. That makes some of the higher taxes worth it. The taxes aren't actually substantively higher. When I lived in California, I paid about the same if not more taxes than I ever did in BC.
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