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Araki just phoned me to tell me it's now 101% canon. 36 Kars and they're all on Mars (and one of them has Killer Queen). Jokes aside, poo poo sounds like an experience if nothing else and the snippet I've read of Buddy Waters' in progress translation describing how DIO survived was weird.
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Nessus posted:Wasn't the lira still a thing during the period of Vento Aureo? A yen/lira comparison isn't too inaccurate... Yeah it was still lira.
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May 5, 2015 14:11
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MonsterEnvy posted:Well Dio coming back as Jesus is not a bad theory given that his body was likely locked away with the Corpse. Begemot posted:No, see, it's gonna be Johnny's head on alternate Dio's body, and he'll have the World + spin powers. Diego's body was run over by a train, and Alt DIO's was obliterated from coming into contact with Diego's head. It'd be cool if he came back, but there really want much of him left at the end. Kaiser Mazoku posted:I don't know why everyone always seems to forget that the coffin had a false bottom. Nah that part makes sense, the weird part is the bottom apprantely had a giant coffin with a pimping DIO lock.
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May 5, 2015 16:43
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If it was true it'd be funny because then Johnny was just whispering to a Diego-Jesus to please help him
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May 5, 2015 17:35
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Honestly I think that bringing back Mr. Brando in some incarnation or another again would be one time too many. He is the main villain of two arcs, the final boss of a third, and is directly responsible for the plot of part 6. Araki can be way more original than relying on Dio again. Bringing back Diego with The World for the final leg of the race through Brooklyn wasn't necessary for the plot, which as people have said was already pretty much resolved by killing Funny Valentine, but it was awesome as gently caress so I don't care. Since we're fighting rock people now, maybe the villain will be a reworking of Cars.
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Liquid Dinosaur posted:Honestly I think that bringing back Mr. Brando in some incarnation or another again would be one time too many. He is the main villain of two arcs, the final boss of a third, and is directly responsible for the plot of part 6. Araki can be way more original than relying on Dio again. Bringing back Diego with The World for the final leg of the race through Brooklyn wasn't necessary for the plot, which as people have said was already pretty much resolved by killing Funny Valentine, but it was awesome as gently caress so I don't care. I mean, isn’t DIO indirectly responsible for every part so far (with the exception of Part 8)? His meddling with the stone mask wound up waking up the pillar men, him collecting the arrows wound up bringing them to Morioh and Italy, and Part 6 and 7 are pretty obvious. I may be misremembering how the arrows got to Morioh / Diavolo though. Same with the Pillarmen.
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May 5, 2015 18:45
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how is Dio responsible for part 7?
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May 5, 2015 18:46
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He's responsible for the universe resetting at the end of Part 6. If that reset universe is the same as the SBR universe, then I guess his ambitions led to the universe being reset and then SBR happened there? Edit: I don't think you can hold him accountable for the Pillar Men waking up again though, they were prophesied to return in 1938 regardless of Dio's vampire shenanigans 50 years prior. ChaosArgate fucked around with this message at 18:53 on May 5, 2015 |
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May 5, 2015 18:50
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Butt Ghost posted:how is Dio responsible for part 7? Didn't he help Valentine close in on Lucy Steel?
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May 5, 2015 18:52
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Butt Ghost posted:how is Dio responsible for part 7? he turned into a dinosaur and made fun of johnny for not eating rocks
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May 5, 2015 19:07
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and made a really bad joke about snakes
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May 5, 2015 19:08
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Butt Ghost posted:how is Dio responsible for part 7? Yes, let's talk about how the Irene universe is the SBR universe 
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May 5, 2015 19:09
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Diavolo was in Egypt and dug up the arrows, and then sold them to Enya. And I think Araki has said that the SBR Universe is NOT the universe created at the end of Stone Ocean. That couldn't be the case because there's no direct 1:1 genetic Jotaro equivalent in the SBR-verse, who would need to exist to be Irene's dad. In SBR I was initially confused about why Johnny had light hair when he should have theoretically been identical to Jonathan. Then I quickly stopped after I realized I was thinking about it too hard, Speedwagon already had an oil company by 1890, and Avdol, Enya and Stroheim were born decades too early. Liquid Dinosaur fucked around with this message at 19:17 on May 5, 2015 |
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May 5, 2015 19:10
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One way or another, Dio has left his imprint on everything pre-Part 8. He was the villain of Parts 1 and 3, and directly influenced the events of Part 6. He was underwater for Part 2, but one of his lingering minions killed Joseph's father. In Part 4, Okuyasu's dad turns out to be another of his minions, and one of Enya's arrows winds up in Kira's possession. In Part 5 we get his son. In Part 7 we get Diego. The overarching malignant presence in Jojo has always been Dio. It's almost unifying in a way, which is what makes Part 8 such a huge break. For the first time in the series, there's the possibility that Dio may have nothing to do with this.
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May 5, 2015 19:39
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At the start of Part 1, the narrator says "This is the tale of two youths, a stone mask and the ties that bind them. " or something like that. It's fun to think about how this story that's currently about a guy with four balls started with a real jerk of a kid trying on a stone mask.
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May 5, 2015 19:43
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Kabanaw posted:Yes, let's talk about how the Irene universe is the SBR universe The "Irene-verse is not SBR-verse" Araki quote is supposed to be somewhere in this image. 
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Bad Seafood posted:One way or another, Dio has left his imprint on everything pre-Part 8. He was the villain of Parts 1 and 3, and directly influenced the events of Part 6. He was underwater for Part 2, but one of his lingering minions killed Joseph's father. In Part 4, Okuyasu's dad turns out to be another of his minions, and one of Enya's arrows winds up in Kira's possession. In Part 5 we get his son. In Part 7 we get Diego. This is a much more accurate version of what I was trying to say
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May 5, 2015 20:25
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Vento Aureo's good do-over has had some pretty nice progress over the past month. 4 new chapters. 469: http://bato.to/read/_/312031/jojos-bizarre-adventure-part-5-vento-aureo_v50_ch469_by_jojos-colored-adventure 470: http://bato.to/read/_/313910/jojos-bizarre-adventure-part-5-vento-aureo_v50_ch470_by_anonymous 471: http://bato.to/read/_/313912/jojos-bizarre-adventure-part-5-vento-aureo_v50_ch471_by_anonymous 472: http://bato.to/read/_/313914/jojos-bizarre-adventure-part-5-vento-aureo_v50_ch472_by_anonymous
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May 5, 2015 20:27
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Aurain posted:The "Irene-verse is not SBR-verse" Araki quote is supposed to be somewhere in this image. I don't see anything about that. He mostly talks about the game and says something about parts 4 and 8 being set in the same town but in different universes. I haven't read it carefully because I'm not that fluent with Japanese, so maybe I missed the part where he says that, though.
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May 5, 2015 21:35
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I defer that to your better judgement. I only saved it because someone said that it did say that
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May 5, 2015 22:24
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What does Dio meddling with the mask have to do with the pillar men waking up?
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May 5, 2015 22:31
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Broseph Brostar posted:What does Dio meddling with the mask have to do with the pillar men waking up? Didn't it result in the archaeological dig that found Santana? Although it seems unrelated to the Nazis finding the other three Pillar Men.
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May 5, 2015 22:41
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Well, if it weren't for Dio, the pillar men probably would have ended up conquering humanity, so there's that.
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Broseph Brostar posted:What does Dio meddling with the mask have to do with the pillar men waking up? When a bunch of masks are recovered in Mexico, Dio is everyone's point of reference for what they want to avoid. When the connection between the Pillar Men and the mask is made clear, we understand immediately and intimately how terrible the Pillar Men must be by using Dio as an immediate measuring stick, understanding now that the Pillar Men are a good degree greater in threat.
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May 5, 2015 22:57
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Jojo, these guys are like, at least five Dios! If Dio is used as a unit of measurement, then how many Dios is DIO?
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Waffleman_ posted:Jojo, these guys are like, at least five Dios! DIO is equal to ten Dios times the number of seconds The World can stop time, minus a third of a Dio for forgetting that laser eyes Are A Thing.
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May 5, 2015 23:01
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Why didn't DIO just stab Jotaro while time was stopped?
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Waffleman_ posted:Jojo, these guys are like, at least five Dios! cmykjester posted:Why didn't DIO just stab Jotaro while time was stopped? Bad Seafood fucked around with this message at 23:30 on May 5, 2015 |
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cmykjester posted:Why didn't DIO just stab Jotaro while time was stopped? He did, a bunch.
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The Dio influence theory is fine, but personally I feel like everything with the Arrows and SBR (which is unrelated to Pt6) are outside of his influence. The Ｇｒａｖｉｔｙ that draws Stand users together would've ensured that the Arrows got where they needed to be and created what users were created. Like with Part 4 I give him credit for Mr. Nijimura and Crazy Diamond, but most of the other events didn't need him at all. At the very least, an alt-Morioh would only be as different as the SBR parallel universes.
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It's not about whether he's needed or central to the conflict of the part, it's just that he's always "There" in some form or fashion. Even after his defeat, the aftereffects of his evil still linger on in the world of the story. Usually in this kind of thing, you defeat the bad guy and that's it, the world is saved. Forever. By contrast, I like how even long after Dio is dead and gone, a footnote in history, the Joestars are still running into things distantly connected with him because the man's actions outlived the man. What SBR presents is a chance to nip Dio's evil in the bud before it can blossom, which is exactly what happens.
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hoobajoo posted:DIO is equal to ten Dios times the number of seconds The World can stop time, minus a third of a Dio for forgetting that laser eyes Are A Thing. Eye lasers proved to be unable to handle glass and freezing his body failed to lighting your hand on fire. Dio was smart to ditch that part 1 stuff.
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Speaking of Diego http://www.theguardian.com/science/...MP=share_btn_fb
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Bad Seafood posted:It's not about whether he's needed or central to the conflict of the part, it's just that he's always "There" in some form or fashion. Even after his defeat, the aftereffects of his evil still linger on in the world of the story. Usually in this kind of thing, you defeat the bad guy and that's it, the world is saved. Forever. By contrast, I like how even long after Dio is dead and gone, a footnote in history, the Joestars are still running into things distantly connected with him because the man's actions outlived the man. You might say his conflict with Jonathan created. . . . ripples. And all of JoJo through part 6 at least is following the effects of those ripples.
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Aurain posted:Vento Aureo's good do-over has had some pretty nice progress over the past month. 4 new chapters. I can't speak for those scans since I don't care to read them, but jojo project's "do-over" is not related to them and it was less than ideal. Maybe those are less bad, who knows. Except for the recolored scans, gently caress those even if the TL isn't bad. Uznare fucked around with this message at 01:19 on May 6, 2015 |
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Kaiser Mazoku posted:Speaking of Diego There's no way you can't convince me the title isn't a Jojo's reference.
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Kuroyama posted:There's no way you can't convince me the title isn't a Jojo's reference. The word "bizarre" comes from one of the scientists quoted in the article, but I do wonder if the reporter chose it for the title on purpose.
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You two know that word is fairly common right?
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Try convincing them
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