|
boom boom boom posted:Then explain the bandages Looks like those are not bandages but are there to keep the tentacles from swinging all over the place. Seems like it would gently caress with your aim if they were all flexible rather than being locked in place.
|
# ? May 6, 2015 06:03 |
|
|
# ? Jun 7, 2024 09:56 |
|
kingcom posted:Do something like this cause it looks cool and I don't feel ashamed if a non-piece of poo poo human being sees it. why isn't that in the imperial assault game
|
# ? May 6, 2015 06:05 |
|
Chill la Chill posted:why isn't that in the imperial assault game Cause they already used that up for their rpg. FFG just has loads of non lovely art which is great. kingcom fucked around with this message at 06:24 on May 6, 2015 |
# ? May 6, 2015 06:07 |
|
Chill la Chill posted:why isn't that in the imperial assault game Say what you will about FFG's laissez faire approach to clear rules and overuse of tokens but they have some pretty spectacular art direction going on.
|
# ? May 6, 2015 06:10 |
|
They prob wanted the ATST to be fearsome in the base game before badass rebel chick blows 'em up easy.
|
# ? May 6, 2015 06:21 |
|
As a goon I can't tell if those pics are of women unless they're showing nips or dicks (the best kind of women). They have long hair but it could go either way
|
# ? May 6, 2015 06:23 |
|
Between X-Wang and lately ImpAss and their RPGs tugging at me Fantasy Flight has managed to make me legit interested in Star Wars again after a decade, which I didn't think was going to happen any time soon.
|
# ? May 6, 2015 06:26 |
|
Doctor Borris posted:You should ask your SO if the models offend her before making those calls . Except phrase it as asking if she likes them. That's some good advice. 90 posts back I remembered my girlfriends stance on sexy miniatures (she doesn't like them) or me getting involved in pointless miniature sexism discussions (not a fan of that). I just want my female Bolt not to have hair sticking out of the helmet. It was stupid when Star Lord did it in the GoG movie, it's still stupid with nameless, faceless commandos in spess. A bitch to assemble and paint, too. As an aside, i keep dreaming about getting good enough at Blender to 3D model girlfriend as an Infinity mini when I realized that's there's really no way to model her like ALEPH trooper since, paintjob aside, most non-alium, non-Ariadnan armor looks about the same.
|
# ? May 6, 2015 06:39 |
|
Kai Tave posted:tl;dr I think that things like virtually every female figure in every wargame having to have big ol' tits bolted on to their armor (or sometimes skipping the armor altogether) are emblematic of lazy and unoriginal artistic habits being pandered to and if I'm going to pay premium prices for stuff I have to hand assemble and paint before I can even think of starting to game with then I expect more than yet another rehash of "no don't you get it it's HEAVY METAL!!!!!1" or "you don't understand it's supposed to be stupid." That is a high-quality fuckin' rant right there Kai Tave. My wife is an artist and I can tell you that lazy-rear end artists that can't or won't accept direction (or criticism) are not at all confined to the games industry. Actually-good artists have to learn that if you're going to take commissions, you're going to have to do what the customer wants. If you're worth a drat, you can inject your personal style without having to override the customer's requirements. In fact, if you're worth a drat, your personal style is part of what attracted the customer to your work in the first place! A really, truly top-notch artist goes beyond taking direction and becomes a collaborator, working hand-in-hand with the customer to offer ideas and options they hadn't even considered, all while staying true to the customer's basic requirements, and without ever trying to step on the customer's ultimate prerogative - to get what they're paying for.
|
# ? May 6, 2015 06:40 |
|
Leperflesh posted:That is a high-quality fuckin' rant right there Kai Tave. It completely blew my mind when Stephen Lea Sheppard was telling everybody about the Exalted artist that puts heart panties on everything and how, when they were told to knock it off, kept doing it anyway. A bunch of people in the thread, myself included, pointed out that this was essentially a commissioned artist failing to provide what the client wanted, in other words a paid employee telling the person paying them "I'm not gonna listen to you and just do my own thing," and that maybe they should, y'know, find an artist who could actually take direction. His response? "Well you know artists. What can you do?" It was the dumbest loving thing, this guy saying that artists are all special snowflakes and you just have to tolerate their "foibles" because I guess actual art direction is just too hard or something. And Exalted, as much fun gets made of it, isn't some obscure little indie game toiling in obscurity, by elfgame standards it was (at least at one point) kind of a big deal. And the people at the wheel can't be bothered to put their foot down about telling their paid professional artists, not just some schlub from Deviantart they conned into doing free pictures for them, to stop putting panty shots on every drat thing. Just unbelievable.
|
# ? May 6, 2015 06:50 |
|
At the same time, this is exactly why Exalted gets made fun of as much as it does.
|
# ? May 6, 2015 06:52 |
|
I don't know the circumstances but I do know that it's possible due to scheduling to feel committed to someone whose work you're becoming very dissatisfied with. If it would add another two months to your release schedule to dump someone and find a new option, you may have to just suck it up and try your best to make it work.
|
# ? May 6, 2015 06:56 |
|
Kai Tave posted:It completely blew my mind when Stephen Lea Sheppard was telling everybody about the Exalted artist that puts heart panties on everything and how, when they were told to knock it off, kept doing it anyway. A bunch of people in the thread, myself included, pointed out that this was essentially a commissioned artist failing to provide what the client wanted, in other words a paid employee telling the person paying them "I'm not gonna listen to you and just do my own thing," and that maybe they should, y'know, find an artist who could actually take direction. I know that when deadlines are looming the engineering company I work for has to accept my designs even when they tell me to stop bolting giant metal titties onto the front of literally everything. You know engineers though. EDIT: I am now really tempted to make everything I design look like it fell off an Ork Stompa.
|
# ? May 6, 2015 06:59 |
|
Leperflesh posted:I don't know the circumstances but I do know that it's possible due to scheduling to feel committed to someone whose work you're becoming very dissatisfied with. If it would add another two months to your release schedule to dump someone and find a new option, you may have to just suck it up and try your best to make it work. It's funny because there was an example of this exact thing happening during the Exalted 3E Kickstarter. They asked Melissa Uran who is one of Exalted's signature artists from the 1E days to whip them up a picture they could post as an update to the Kickstarter teasing new Infernals stuff because they wanted to keep churning interest as often as possible and the picture they got was this: And maybe you're thinking okay, that's not so bad maybe even though it's literally a busty babe in a metal bikini and wispy silks with thigh high boots, not compared to this other terrible thing over here, though it didn't loving help matters that the background Holden conjured up for her was "oh yeah she's a total seductress who uses sex to get what she wants sexily and also she's not very bright," but you also have to bear in mind that 2nd edition Infernals is infamously awful even by Exalted standards, it is literally a book that opens with someone's underage rape impregnation fetish fiction, and this is how they decided to tease a potential 3E Infernals revival, cheesecake armor and sexy sex sex. And when I talked to Holden about it (back when we were on speaking terms) he told me that Melissa Uran literally drew the picture for them in a day for free while suffering from a severe migraine and that he felt like it would be a jerk move on his part to send it back and go "nope, can you do it over?" So believe it or not I can actually understand where he was coming from there, though the stupid backstory was all on him as far as I know. So that? Kind of understandable. Heart panties artist going "gently caress you dad, I do what I want" and remaining gainfully employed? Not even a little understandable.
|
# ? May 6, 2015 07:17 |
|
Kai Tave posted:but you also have to bear in mind that 2nd edition Infernals is infamously awful even by Exalted standards, it is literally a book that opens with someone's underage rape impregnation fetish fiction
|
# ? May 6, 2015 07:20 |
|
sounds hot
|
# ? May 6, 2015 07:22 |
|
2E Infernals is basically the quintessential example of Exalted's lack of editorial oversight, following in the grand tradition of White Wolf games as a whole. The bulk of the mechanics were written by a guy named Michael Goodwin who is basically one of the closest people Exalted ever had to a Guy Who Really Knows poo poo, but a huge chunk of the fiction was written by some other dude who decided that it would be totally HEAVY METAL to have, as part of the background for Infernals, a young girl named Lillun whose fate was to be perma-pregnant by demon rape or something. I'm not actually exaggerating for effect, it's incredibly gross and loving awful in every way. So not only was there absolutely no communication or coordination between the different people working on the book (as I imagine Michael Goodwin would have had a few things to say about having his name in the credits of a book containing something like that) but the line developer for Exalted okayed this to go to press (the linedev at the time, John Chambers, was notorious for not giving the slightest gently caress about anything) and wound up being published in a for real book that you could literally hold in your hands and read on the bus.
|
# ? May 6, 2015 07:26 |
|
Hmm instead of terrifying underage rape. Lets have cool jedis
|
# ? May 6, 2015 07:29 |
|
Umh excuse me, but I'm pretty sure the plural of Jedi is Jedi.
|
# ? May 6, 2015 07:34 |
|
Jedii.
|
# ? May 6, 2015 07:38 |
|
Galaga Galaxian posted:Umh excuse me, but I'm pretty sure the plural of Jedi is Jedi. No it's just that the singular of Jedi is Jed.
|
# ? May 6, 2015 08:18 |
|
Kai Tave posted:Jedii. Jedipodes.
|
# ? May 6, 2015 09:52 |
|
What if modest and sensible outfits are my fetish? Your move, designers.
|
# ? May 6, 2015 11:09 |
|
kingcom posted:Do something like this cause it looks cool and I don't feel ashamed if a non-piece of poo poo human being sees it. The Best Twi'lek. Naked slavegirl? Nah, son. I'mma gently caress you up. I want a mini of her.
|
# ? May 6, 2015 11:45 |
|
JcDent posted:I just want my female Bolt not to have hair sticking out of the helmet. It was stupid when Star Lord did it in the GoG movie, it's still stupid with nameless, faceless commandos in spess. Or just go the Celestial Guard route of them being easily removable. Don't want animu ponytails? snip snip, file file, done.
|
# ? May 6, 2015 11:51 |
|
That guy has pec shaped chest armor. Get the gently caress out of here with that poo poo
|
# ? May 6, 2015 14:04 |
|
kingcom posted:Do something like this cause it looks cool and I don't feel ashamed if a non-piece of poo poo human being sees it. She looks a lot like a mass effect asari commando which is cool!
|
# ? May 6, 2015 14:38 |
|
lol at the bad thread and attacking Moola when he's actually been posting content and trying to spark discussion.
|
# ? May 6, 2015 18:36 |
|
bad thread doesnt want to be friends with me at all
|
# ? May 6, 2015 18:41 |
|
Kai Tave posted:a young girl named Lillun whose fate was to be perma-pregnant by demon rape or something Hey, I remember that from WTF, DnD?! And while I'd argue that you don't have a fetish to write stuff like that - for example, for me it's gross and disgusting, so, well done on making Infernals gross and disgusting? - the way they savor it reeks of cheep western porn comics, also known as the worst kind of porn comics. I will agree that the writer was doing his work with one hand. I'm also surprised to hear that Exalted, being Kung-Fu Movies On Crack, even has panties as a thing. Did they leave the art? How does it look? Pierzak posted:Or just go the Celestial Guard route of them being easily removable. Don't want animu ponytails? snip snip, file file, done. Blacklight helmets and hair don't mesh.
|
# ? May 6, 2015 18:54 |
|
Moola posted:
It's okay Moola we still love you.
|
# ? May 6, 2015 19:13 |
|
Seriously Moolah. it's like someone nuked the Dwarven hold underneath GW HQ in some bizarre apocalypse and you're the warped AI trying to to make sense of it all. I hope you don't need me to say more here. This is the end of the line.
|
# ? May 6, 2015 19:17 |
|
Regardless of whether the issue is something serious like social justice or something dumb like nerdgames, it's always a mix of magical and infuriating to see the people whose biggest problem with how hosed up something is, is that they have agitators reminding them of it. I JUST WANT TO PRETEND THAT THE EMPEROR HAS CLOTHES, GO AWAY AND STOP making GBS threads ON MY PARADE
|
# ? May 6, 2015 19:24 |
|
Saalkin posted:lol at the bad thread and attacking Moola when he's actually been posting content and trying to spark discussion. I enjoy that they have finally started admitting that the game is poo poo, yet still say that they can have fun playing it. Yup this car sure is busted as hell, but I can still drive it. No reverse, the headlights don't work and the repair bills are killing me, but she still drives! Why not get one of the dozens of better cars around? Do you know how much I've sunk into this car? I will never give it up! Didn't you hear me say it still drives? What do you want a nice car with smooth steering, brakes don't screech and a radio that works? No thank you.
|
# ? May 6, 2015 19:52 |
|
Weird analogy since at least that car is useful for taking you places - and works.
|
# ? May 6, 2015 19:56 |
|
Chill la Chill posted:Weird analogy since at least that car is useful for taking you places - and works. You have never owned a real poo poo-box car have you? They don't take you much of any place due to break downs and don't truly work.
|
# ? May 6, 2015 19:58 |
|
It's more like having a classic car that you refuse to properly restore because you'd have to use parts that weren't made by the official manufacturer, because they stopped giving a poo poo about you and your car years ago.
|
# ? May 6, 2015 20:10 |
|
its more like that episode of friends where joey pretends to have a porche But its really just a pile of boxes under a tarp Also the boxes HATE you
|
# ? May 6, 2015 20:17 |
|
I bought a box of dwarfs today at full retail
|
# ? May 6, 2015 20:34 |
|
|
# ? Jun 7, 2024 09:56 |
|
Please tell me what I think is fun
|
# ? May 6, 2015 20:35 |