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thehomemaster
Jul 16, 2014

by Ralp
Look, really it has to be a net positive because The Three-Body Problem will now win both the Nebula and the Hugo.

(If it doesn't I will burn down the establishment.)

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Ornamented Death
Jan 25, 2006

Pew pew!

If you really want to know everything about the situation surrounding the Hugos, Mike Glyer has kept an exhaustive archive of postings by various people involved on both sides.

Epoxy Bulletin
Sep 7, 2009

delikpate that thing!
I thought things were going really well until I started to shout "Malabar! It's Malabar!" and we ended up having to stop. Maybe I misunderstood "I love literature", or maybe I just don't get women.

anilEhilated
Feb 17, 2014

But I say fuck the rain.

Grimey Drawer

Ornamented Death posted:

If you really want to know everything about the situation surrounding the Hugos, Mike Glyer has kept an exhaustive archive of postings by various people involved on both sides.
I really had no idea that Wright was such a raging rear end in a top hat before this one.

H.P. Shivcraft
Mar 17, 2008

STAY UNRULY, YOU HEARTLESS MONSTERS!

anilEhilated posted:

I really had no idea that Wright was such a raging rear end in a top hat before this one.

I used to be an active reader/commenter on his LJ way back in high school. At some point he had a heart attack and a vision of the Virgin Mary, so literally overnight he switched from being an Ayn Randian hardcore atheist to a monarchist Catholic. Some sense had been trickling into my head for a while then, but it was at about this point that I fully checked out. A weird thing about the Hugos debacle is being reminded of that moment and realizing he's just been digging deeper and deeper for the subsequent decade.

Of course, I recall checking his blog one time since then, and the most recent post was insisting that The Last Airbender was the pinnacle of cinematic entertainment and all the bad press was just liberal Hollywood backlash against whitewashed casting. So I suppose I shouldn't be surprised.

MaggieTheCat
Nov 7, 2010
My husband and I started our own YouTube channel where we do sketches based on books, and other reader related issues. For example we did an episode on spoilers. I was inspired by Hey Ash, Whactcha Playin'?, but with books, and less SJW. We've only done nine episodes, about one a week so far. The first few we did are rough, but we've been buying better equipment, such as a new mic, and I think they've gotten better.

So far we've done Gone Girl, Wild, Dune, My Life in France, Mistborn, Promise of Blood, and the Dresden Files. Plus one on book hauls and spoilers.

Me and my husband have a lot of fun making these videos, and we want your thoughts on what books we should do next. No genre is off limits either.

cloudchamber
Aug 6, 2010

You know what the Ukraine is? It's a sitting duck. A road apple, Newman. The Ukraine is weak. It's feeble. I think it's time to put the hurt on the Ukraine
L'histoire d'O

Hieronymous Alloy
Jan 30, 2009


Why! Why!! Why must you refuse to accept that Dr. Hieronymous Alloy's Genetically Enhanced Cream Corn Is Superior to the Leading Brand on the Market!?!




Morbid Hound

cloudchamber posted:

L'histoire d'O

:golfclap:

I love this forum

edit: more seriously I have no idea what to suggest

Hieronymous Alloy fucked around with this message at 02:52 on May 5, 2015

Safety Biscuits
Oct 21, 2010

The Book of Going Forth By Day.

Walh Hara
May 11, 2012

MaggieTheCat posted:

My husband and I started our own YouTube channel where we do sketches based on books, and other reader related issues. For example we did an episode on spoilers. I was inspired by Hey Ash, Whactcha Playin'?, but with books, and less SJW. We've only done nine episodes, about one a week so far. The first few we did are rough, but we've been buying better equipment, such as a new mic, and I think they've gotten better.

So far we've done Gone Girl, Wild, Dune, My Life in France, Mistborn, Promise of Blood, and the Dresden Files. Plus one on book hauls and spoilers.

Me and my husband have a lot of fun making these videos, and we want your thoughts on what books we should do next. No genre is off limits either.

Some random titles:

The man who mistook his wife for a hat. One hundred years of solitude. Name of the Rose. Pride and Prejudice.

Wraith of J.O.I.
Jan 25, 2012


Lolita

Carthag Tuek
Oct 15, 2005

Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
slægt skal følge slægters gang



Timothy Zahn's Thrawn trilogy

Baby Babbeh
Aug 2, 2005

It's hard to soar with the eagles when you work with Turkeys!!



Justine

Carthag Tuek
Oct 15, 2005

Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
slægt skal følge slægters gang



Cormack McCarthy, Child of God

Fellwenner
Oct 21, 2005
Don't make me kill you.

Worm.

Also, give us a link to the channel.

MaggieTheCat
Nov 7, 2010
Thanks for the suggestions! https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCIMmo9BO4sbgS49FzVmoC7A/feed Here's a link to our channel. We're doing Stephen King's "The Stand"later this week. If you want to show some love, then please subscribe to your channel. Thanks!

MaggieTheCat fucked around with this message at 13:56 on May 7, 2015

supermikhail
Nov 17, 2012


"It's video games, Scully."
Video games?"
"He enlists the help of strangers to make his perfect video game. When he gets bored of an idea, he murders them and moves on to the next, learning nothing in the process."
"Hmm... interesting."
I took a gander, and I don't know how much this kind of feedback is worth, but your production could use some upgrades in the mic department, as well as perhaps a few musical jingles here and there, at the start and end, and in transitions; longer pauses and takes could also do some good. Additionally, the writing might use longer intros, such as in one of the recent videos about the chef god, some kind of "expanation"* for why the girl** immediately jumps to elves and dragons might be needed. Or it might be a problem with delivery, but you can't just tell someone to be a better actor (expecting an overnight result, anyway). Perhaps my earlier point about pauses is relevant.

*which is not the best word for what I have in mind - segue and lead-on have also occurred to me

**I also haven't caught whether the characters get names; even if they do, they might want to address each other more often by them

MaggieTheCat
Nov 7, 2010

supermikhail posted:

I took a gander, and I don't know how much this kind of feedback is worth, but your production could use some upgrades in the mic department, as well as perhaps a few musical jingles here and there, at the start and end, and in transitions; longer pauses and takes could also do some good. Additionally, the writing might use longer intros, such as in one of the recent videos about the chef god, some kind of "expanation"* for why the girl** immediately jumps to elves and dragons might be needed. Or it might be a problem with delivery, but you can't just tell someone to be a better actor (expecting an overnight result, anyway). Perhaps my earlier point about pauses is relevant.

*which is not the best word for what I have in mind - segue and lead-on have also occurred to me

**I also haven't caught whether the characters get names; even if they do, they might want to address each other more often by them

Thanks for the feedback! We just bought a new mic, so hopefully the videos will sound better. I agree about the pauses and segues, we will definitely work on those.

Thunder Moose
Mar 7, 2015

S.J.C.
I started Shogun at the behest of Hieronymous Alloy and several others a month back.

100 pages in - it is without a doubt the best book I have read since Dune. Good recommendation!

MaggieTheCat
Nov 7, 2010
We did "The Stand" by Stephen King! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rTb4lH2ENxU I took the feedback ya'll gave and added them to the new video.
Also thanks for the video suggestions!

Hedrigall
Mar 27, 2008

by vyelkin
What the gently caress is going on

supermikhail
Nov 17, 2012


"It's video games, Scully."
Video games?"
"He enlists the help of strangers to make his perfect video game. When he gets bored of an idea, he murders them and moves on to the next, learning nothing in the process."
"Hmm... interesting."
Okay. The main problem about the mic(s) is not the mic(s), but the reverb of the rooms, and that has obviously not changed. I'm not a sound engineer, and you should visit the Home Recording megathread in the Musicians' Lounge, I believe, but you perhaps might need to invest in a couple of clip-on mics, although those might be quite expensive. Unless you want to go overdubbing.

The other problem, and there's no getting around it anymore, is the acting. I'm not an actor myself, and there's probably a thread about it somewhere, too, but I'd suggest, with my limited experience, that you both work on your range. When you're speaking a high part, try to take it a little higher, and lower for a low part. If it's not clear, I'm speaking about the pitch of sounds. Or it could be put differently as "Exaggerate".

...Or perhaps it's the writing. I've just tried the first line in the new sketch, and it didn't come naturally (granted my limited acting abilities). Specifically, "Do you know anything about deadly superbugs". One, it doesn't segue naturally from "You read the news". "Is there anything about deadly superbugs?" might work. Two, "deadly superbugs". Perhaps with the right delivery (see previous paragraph), but right now far from natural. It sounds exactly like a setup for a joke, instead of something that a character would ask earnestly, if you see what I mean.

One final thing which may or may not be of consequence. Your clothes, with relation to the "running away screaming" scene. Maybe I haven't seen enough comedy, but I think the manner of that run is reserved for cartoon characters. Live characters run away normally (i.e. with arms at the sides). But it made me think. You know, you're people with certain dimensions, if I may, and in the current form it's a detrimental factor, highlighting the amateur quality. But perhaps you'd like to consider instead placing emphasis on your body shapes. With the right clothing it could actually turn the guy into a comical character that could run away flailing his arms without any problems, if you see what I mean. Unfortunately, I'm not a wardrobe specialist in any form, so that's the extent of my suggestion here.

Hedrigall
Mar 27, 2008

by vyelkin
Yeah, also it's bad

supermikhail
Nov 17, 2012


"It's video games, Scully."
Video games?"
"He enlists the help of strangers to make his perfect video game. When he gets bored of an idea, he murders them and moves on to the next, learning nothing in the process."
"Hmm... interesting."
As a man who regularly puts out stuff of objectionable quality, I can empathize.

Plus with a bit improved writing and a good dose of cartoony spunk, I feel like it could put a smile on the lips of a person less jaded by life than me.

SkaAndScreenplays
Dec 11, 2013

by Pragmatica
I'm trying to track down good post-human & post-apocalyptic fiction and didn't feel like this was a question worthy of a standalone thread.

Does such a thing exist? Or is it all as bad as I imagine it very well could be?

Hieronymous Alloy
Jan 30, 2009


Why! Why!! Why must you refuse to accept that Dr. Hieronymous Alloy's Genetically Enhanced Cream Corn Is Superior to the Leading Brand on the Market!?!




Morbid Hound

SkaAndScreenplays posted:

I'm trying to track down good post-human & post-apocalyptic fiction and didn't feel like this was a question worthy of a standalone thread.

Does such a thing exist? Or is it all as bad as I imagine it very well could be?

There's lots of great stuff. King of post-apoc is probably A Canticle for Liebowitz.

Post human might be harder to find.

SkaAndScreenplays
Dec 11, 2013

by Pragmatica

Hieronymous Alloy posted:

A Canticle for Liebowitz.

I was trying to remember the name of the one my 6th grade teacher lent me and you nailed it. Thank you sir.

Borneo Jimmy
Feb 27, 2007

by Smythe

SkaAndScreenplays posted:

I'm trying to track down good post-human & post-apocalyptic fiction and didn't feel like this was a question worthy of a standalone thread.

Does such a thing exist? Or is it all as bad as I imagine it very well could be?

David Alexander's Phoenix series is a personal favorite of mine, though I should say it's a very unique literary experience and probably not for everyone.

Safety Biscuits
Oct 21, 2010

supermikhail posted:

As a man who regularly puts out stuff of objectionable quality, I can empathize.

Plus with a bit improved writing and a good dose of cartoony spunk, I feel like it could put a smile on the lips of a person less jaded by life than me.

This is TBB, not ADTRW.

elbow
Jun 7, 2006

SkaAndScreenplays posted:

I'm trying to track down good post-human & post-apocalyptic fiction and didn't feel like this was a question worthy of a standalone thread.

Does such a thing exist? Or is it all as bad as I imagine it very well could be?

There actually is a whole thread devoted to it: http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3524363&perpage=40
And as the organizer of a post-apocalyptic book club, I can tell you there's a lot of good stuff out there. A lot of poo poo too, though.
Anyway, some personal recommendations: The Road, by Cormac McCarthy, The Dog Stars, by Peter Heller, and The Passage, by Justin Cronin.

SkaAndScreenplays
Dec 11, 2013

by Pragmatica

elbow posted:

There actually is a whole thread devoted to it: http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3524363&perpage=40
And as the organizer of a post-apocalyptic book club, I can tell you there's a lot of good stuff out there. A lot of poo poo too, though.
Anyway, some personal recommendations: The Road, by Cormac McCarthy, The Dog Stars, by Peter Heller, and The Passage, by Justin Cronin.

How did I overlook this?

Seriously all...thank you.

thehomemaster
Jul 16, 2014

by Ralp

SkaAndScreenplays posted:

I'm trying to track down good post-human & post-apocalyptic fiction and didn't feel like this was a question worthy of a standalone thread.

Does such a thing exist? Or is it all as bad as I imagine it very well could be?

This is good post-human stuff

http://www.amazon.com.au/LIVID-Francesco-Verso-ebook/dp/B00M1YXCQW/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1432021486&sr=8-1&keywords=Livid

boom boom boom
Jun 28, 2012

by Shine
I started reading The Flowers in the Attic. It's hilarious. Like, every loving page the girl says "It sure is a good thing that we won't be stuck in this room for very long! It would be terrible to be trapped in this room and attic for more than a couple days! Luckily it will only be a day or so before we can leave this room!"

I think they're gonna be stuck in there for awhile.

Kvlt!
May 19, 2012



Couldn't find a better thread to post this in, thought I'd ask around.

I'm looking for the name of a book that an old friend of mine (who I can't contact and ask anymore) was reading that I read the first few chapters of. It was very well written, about basically this overweight neckbeard fat disgusting dude. It was written very complexly, sophisticated maybe is the word? I remember there being a scene where he goes out to a mall or supermarket or maybe clothes shopping in the first few chapters? Sorry I don't have much to go on.

Juanito
Jan 20, 2004

I wasn't paying attention
to what you just said.

Can you repeat yourself
in a more interesting way?
Hell Gem

Kvlt! posted:

Couldn't find a better thread to post this in, thought I'd ask around.

I'm looking for the name of a book that an old friend of mine (who I can't contact and ask anymore) was reading that I read the first few chapters of. It was very well written, about basically this overweight neckbeard fat disgusting dude. It was written very complexly, sophisticated maybe is the word? I remember there being a scene where he goes out to a mall or supermarket or maybe clothes shopping in the first few chapters? Sorry I don't have much to go on.
A Confederacy of Dunces?

Kvlt!
May 19, 2012



Juanito posted:

A Confederacy of Dunces?

That was it! Thank you!

boom boom boom
Jun 28, 2012

by Shine
The Flowers in the Attic is a gross book.

Mr. Squishy
Mar 22, 2010

A country where you can always get richer.
Have the kids started loving yet?

boom boom boom
Jun 28, 2012

by Shine

Mr. Squishy posted:

Have the kids started loving yet?

They only did it once, but that is one time too many.

That's a gross family.

I guess the grandma was right about them all along.

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supermikhail
Nov 17, 2012


"It's video games, Scully."
Video games?"
"He enlists the help of strangers to make his perfect video game. When he gets bored of an idea, he murders them and moves on to the next, learning nothing in the process."
"Hmm... interesting."
So, I've been meaning to ask but didn't know how to frame the question so it doesn't sound condescending. Maybe disclaiming any condescension will suffice?

Anyway, what is the appeal of this book? Wikipedia says it was extremely popular back in the day, and as far as I understand it's about constant misery of a group of children. I can understand starting it, perhaps based on its popularity, but I don't think I'd be motivated to finish. Or maybe that's because I've spoiled myself on the plot also on Wikipedia.

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