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Buying early access is like buying something in the hopes it will become better but sometimes it doesn't and you get sad and/or angry about it. it is a complicated metaphor Lord Lambeth has a new favorite as of 17:29 on May 6, 2015 |
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May 6, 2015 16:55
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Lord Lambeth posted:Buy early access is like buying something in the hopes it will become better but sometimes it doesn't and you get sad and/or angry about it. I don't follow.
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May 6, 2015 16:57
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Lumberjack Bonanza posted:Buying early access and getting mad when the game is never finished is like yelling at a gas station clerk when you buy a losing scratch-off. It will be hilarious when some lawyer latches onto this analogy and tries to shut Steam down for running an online gambling parlor.
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May 6, 2015 16:59
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Someone a few pages back mentioned the collect-a-thon bullshit in DK64, but didn't mention the loving part where you couldn't finish the final world/dungeon/whatever and get to the final boss unless you had both the Nintendo and Rare coins, one of which required you to beat all four levels of the original Donkey Kong arcade game (twice, I think.) - the other required you to beat some other old arcade game but it wasn't nearly as hard.
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May 6, 2015 17:57
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Len posted:Looks like PT has an expiration date now too. http://kotaku.com/konami-might-have-cancelled-silent-hills-but-contrary-1702535395
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May 6, 2015 18:06
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Horrible Smutbeast posted:Double fine hasn't made any good games though. They've made a few good levels with quirky things in it and then failed to complete the rest of the game, resulting in their publisher having to do it themselves (remember Brutal Legends and how that went to poo poo so fast?). Hell, on Brutal Legends Tim took everyone working on it off for an entire month to make prototypes for other games to sell rather than, you know, finish the work they were being paid to do. Exactly. Doublefine is the ulimate troll game developer. They have interesting concepts but make garbage games. None of their games are actually fun to play. And yet they still have a good name.
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May 6, 2015 18:48
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Shwqa posted:Exactly. Doublefine is the ulimate troll game developer. They have interesting concepts but make garbage games. None of their games are actually fun to play. And yet they still have a good name. Psychonauts was pretty fun.
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May 6, 2015 18:54
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I also enjoyed Stacking
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May 6, 2015 18:58
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Shwqa posted:Exactly. Doublefine is the ulimate troll game developer. They have interesting concepts but make garbage games. None of their games are actually fun to play. And yet they still have a good name. Psychonauts is one of the best games I've ever played. ... That's the only Doublefine game I've ever played.
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May 6, 2015 19:13
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All of the FPS protag cameos in Duke Nukem 3D are a trend that carried on to Duke Nukem Forever too. For example: Duke usually made some quip about them (in this case, "Power armor is for pussies.") when you find them. You also find the corpse of the guy from Dead Space.
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May 6, 2015 19:14
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Oxyclean posted:Someone a few pages back mentioned the collect-a-thon bullshit in DK64, but didn't mention the loving part where you couldn't finish the final world/dungeon/whatever and get to the final boss unless you had both the Nintendo and Rare coins, one of which required you to beat all four levels of the original Donkey Kong arcade game (twice, I think.) - the other required you to beat some other old arcade game but it wasn't nearly as hard. I think they mentioned exactly what you just mentioned.
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May 6, 2015 19:30
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You shouldn't expect much from most EA games but its not unreasonable for people to be upset when developers completely give up on a project and run off with the money. I don't see what's so hard to understand about this.
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May 6, 2015 20:09
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Vic Boss posted:I think they mentioned exactly what you just mentioned. Oops, skimmed ahead and missed that part of the discussion. But that part is a load of poo poo.
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May 6, 2015 22:22
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The problem with early access is that you have hordes of nerds promising the world their craziest impossible fever dreams and then finding out that what they wanted to do was far harder than they anticipated or in fact actually impossible. Some guys go the "take the money and run" route but the other snag is that you can't make a $90,000,000 game on a $250,000 kickstarter budget.
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May 6, 2015 22:29
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Nighthand posted:All of the FPS protag cameos in Duke Nukem 3D are a trend that carried on to Duke Nukem Forever too. For example: DNF is one giant troll of a game. 14 years of development and it's the most average shooter I've ever played.
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May 6, 2015 22:31
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Amorphous Blob posted:DNF is one giant troll of a game. 14 years of development and it's the most average shooter I've ever played. Which would be fine if it didn't restrict you to a limited number of weapons! I was reasonable and willing to forgive a lot if it was fun to shoot poo poo with a ton of guns, but gently caress that game after realizing you could only carry 2 (now 4 with a patch) loving guns.
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May 7, 2015 00:38
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There's an achievement for beating the game while never dropping the starting golden pistol too. Specifically never dropping, not "having in your possession at the end of the game," which I found out because I accidentally dropped it in the last area. So I didn't get the cheevo.
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May 7, 2015 01:28
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DNF tried to mock a lot of modern FPS mechanics even thought it embraced pretty much all of them. Its kind of pitiful.
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May 7, 2015 01:59
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Gearbox is just one huge troll on everyone because they embezzle money from other projects that they screw over to siphon it in their own games, but even those games suck.
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May 7, 2015 02:11
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I have no idea how true or not Steam changing their EA policies in response to the Space Base situation I heard in passing from someone is or not. It would be funny if it was, but I doubt it. I'm just in the "Well, that's disappointing" camp but then I only got Steam EA and I didn't throw more money into a kickstarter like other people. Watching DF be poo poo at PR about the whole thing was at least entertaining.
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May 7, 2015 02:42
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Does developers trolling their former publishers count? Because I just came across this teaser for potential Mighty Number 9 DLC.... https://youtube.com/watch?v=2uYSlhC9zVI That's pretty much Zero exactly as he appears at the beginning of Mega Man Zero 2.
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May 7, 2015 02:44
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The product placements in Alan Wake tend to be practical, like Energizer batteries used for flashlights, to poorly executed, like this Verizon ad during a tense section in the game. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mo9Ek5AODhI
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May 7, 2015 10:45
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Internet Kraken posted:DNF tried to mock a lot of modern FPS mechanics even thought it embraced pretty much all of them. Its kind of pitiful. The game's writer had 14 years to pick up on the fact that the designers spent all that time on a treadmill of throwing out work to chase the latest trends, too.
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May 7, 2015 10:58
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Ryoshi posted:Does developers trolling their former publishers count? Because I just came across this teaser for potential Mighty Number 9 DLC.... It's MMBN Bass/MMZ zero/MMX zero.
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May 7, 2015 11:05
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HellCopter posted:No, you're getting at something here. Early access is like handing your cousin-by-marriage 20 bucks and telling him to go buy a pizza. But instead he returns with 3 slices and says "It's all they had." But he still spent the $20 somehow. Jesus Christ would you just let it go already? It was 2 years ago!
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May 7, 2015 11:31
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Tiberius Thyben posted:Jesus Christ would you just let it go already? It was 2 years ago! Where the gently caress did you go for HellCopter's pizza? Mongolia, on foot?
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May 7, 2015 12:07
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Someone from Kotaku has been reading this thread http://kotaku.com/the-worst-strategy-guide-ever-made-1702827492
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May 7, 2015 21:57
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Ryoshi posted:Does developers trolling their former publishers count? Because I just came across this teaser for potential Mighty Number 9 DLC.... I backed MN9 and I think it would be kind of hilarious if they got sued by Capcom like a month before release.
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May 7, 2015 22:09
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LawfulWaffle posted:Someone from Kotaku has been reading this thread That or Prima paid for a subtle ad.
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May 7, 2015 23:34
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I don't think I want to meet the person who would buy the hardcover reprint of a Prima strategy guide.
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May 8, 2015 00:32
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Len posted:I don't think I want to meet the person who would buy the hardcover reprint of a Prima strategy guide. The Library of Congress seems pretty cool.  
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May 8, 2015 00:55
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Half of the time I play 'Marvel: Puzzle Quest' it feels like a troll, "We'll tell you what level they are but not their abilities. Good luck in selecting your team while we proceed to spam the poo poo out of you. Then when you select a team to deal with it we won't give you the colours to handle it. Face it son, either way you're hosed no matter team you have. Also despite the fact you have fifty characters we'll constantly send you upgrades for the five characters you've already unlocked and maxed out. You have 30 tokens from four different missions? Who are those five people you've maxed out again? You must need more of them!" I still play this game as I appreciate the irony. "We've got all these things to unlock but here's your x hundredth unlock of a character you've already forgotten about[.
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May 8, 2015 01:34
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That was the sign I needed to quit playing.
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May 8, 2015 02:38
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Libraries that get free copies of all* printed matter (my home city has two I think) are cool because they have literally every porn magazine ever. *) In their country, of course.
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May 8, 2015 10:28
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Christ, I would love a real guide for FFIX. I would not however pay a hundred and thirty bucks for a hardcover prima guide, because I like good things, and not punching myself in the dick.
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May 8, 2015 11:46
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Rocket Baby Dolls posted:Half of the time I play 'Marvel: Puzzle Quest' it feels like a troll, "We'll tell you what level they are but not their abilities. Good luck in selecting your team while we proceed to spam the poo poo out of you. Then when you select a team to deal with it we won't give you the colours to handle it. Face it son, either way you're hosed no matter team you have. Also despite the fact you have fifty characters we'll constantly send you upgrades for the five characters you've already unlocked and maxed out. You have 30 tokens from four different missions? Who are those five people you've maxed out again? You must need more of them!" You for got to mention the AI making a single 3 tile match that cascades into a 15 hit combo with 5 criticals that auto-match followed by 4 special moves, often on the very first turn. It's also pretty obvious that the AI knows exactly what order the offscreen tiles are in. It'll make a match of colors that neither team uses because it'll drop a combo down that the player can't even see. At least they added dailies and lowered the Iso requirements for leveling 3 and 4 star characters. Otherwise, I probably would've stopped playing by now.
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May 8, 2015 12:40
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Lumberjack Bonanza posted:That or Prima paid for a subtle ad. But that would be unethical, and we all know about how important ethics are in games journalism
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May 8, 2015 13:42
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If it weren't for guide books I'd still be looking Riven with a massive question mark floating above my head
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May 8, 2015 14:34
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Flappy Bird
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LawfulWaffle posted:But that would be unethical, and we all know about how important ethics are in games journalism The nuance. The subtlety. 
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