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Riso posted:How should I know? I am not going to pay 9$ for an ebook. Sorry but I got the impression you'd read it, since that's an odd one to single out, its hardly the worst example of epricing GW have pulled recently. Plus you can get a paperback for £6, or you could if it wasn't out of stock again.
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Years back when I was overseas my mother and her husband sent me one of the larger Ipods which had a ton of stuff on it including the audiobook of Atlas Shrugged. Not being an uneducated rube I had read summaries of Rand's work before, and was less than impressed. That being said my mother said it was the greatest book she ever read, and I agreed to give it a shot. To my credit I managed to go for almost two hours before turning it off. Anyway, as far as books go I'd say 40K authors seem to go out of their way to introduce many strong female characters. Women operating in roles traditionally associated with men are the hallmarks of progressive societies, and I think we can agree that the Imperium is not that. Doctrinally, groups like the Imperial Guard and Inquisition don't have rules against women, but they are going to be recruiting largely from backwards and superstitious populations, and thusly you still wouldn't expect to find a lot of women in prominent positions. Despite this the books are simply full of female generals, warriors, politicians, etc. I don't mind it at all, and in books like Brotherhood of the Snake it is nice to have the female governor as a supporting character...she doesn't die horribly, and is critical to the plot. Hell, her backstory is entirely about a woman breaking the glass ceiling of her homeworld's culture. In a setting literally dominated and revolving around superMEN I'd say the Black Library does a pretty good job giving us interesting female characters. Zephyrine did you even read The Emperor's Gift or Night Lords series by the same author who wrote Betrayer? Hell, of all the authors in the Black Library ADB is the most guilty of filling his key roles with women. It takes some weird mental gymnastics to then think that there is some deep-rooted hatred against women at play when some of them die messily in a setting where drat near everyone dies messily.
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Zephyrine posted:As female characters go there's ... Off the top of my head, there's...
This is just off the top of my head. 40k has a lot of female badasses. Zephyrine posted:Or she falls to the ground and cracks her skull open when an enemy shot hits the ship. Dying when the ship you command is damaged in battle is demeaning somehow how? What?
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Guys, you're arguing with an Objectivist Feminist. Do you see where this is going?
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Zephyrine posted:I live in Sweden and we pay about 50% in tax here to cover our vast welfare system that makes is so that education and medical care is free and no person ever has to be without food or somewhere to live.  Zephyrine posted:Angrons ship Captain has been a fantastic character so far. She even shot a space marine in the face. My money is still on her getting killed of in some demeaning way. Like a space marine caving her face in with a backhand. Or she falls to the ground and cracks her skull open when an enemy shot hits the ship. Immanentized posted:You also have Roboute's governess from Know No Fear who stood up to Kurze (and I think Alpha Legionnaires). The lead astropath in Damnation of Pythos (yes the book was dumb, I know) manages to in the face of daemons still meet the expectations the Iron Hands place on her. Dalia Cytheria is the protagonist of the Mechanicum novel. The Magos she serves under, Koriel Zeth is female too. Vengeful Spirit has a female princeps in an Imperator Titan. And these are just examples from the Horus Heresy series. There are plenty more good examples in 40k; Shira Calpurnia, Faith & Fire and Hammer & Anvil - books about the Sisters of Battle that I thought pretty good, characters from the Priests/Lords/Gods of Mars trilogy, Eisenhorn, Double Eagle, Storm of Iron, and so on. But yes, while there are quite a few examples, a good female character in 'hams is still rare enough to be noteworthy. As for the earlier discussion on how much what books you put in your shelves matter, this is how much I care what others think:  My Heresy shelf.  E: \/\/\/\/\/ Ikea only had them in wood or white. 
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Arquinsiel posted:Guys, you're arguing with an Objectivist Feminist. Do you see where this is going? That just because someone is feminist doesn't exclude the possibility of being a hypocritical delusional bitch? I'm just guessing. Groetgaffel posted:As for the earlier discussion on how much what books you put in your shelves matter, this is how much I care what others think: Not enough skulls and Chaos marks.
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Nice use of a gender specific insult because feminism was brought up. Very classy.
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Groetgaffel posted:As for the earlier discussion on how much what books you put in your shelves matter, this is how much I care what others think: Good, now squeeze Ivan's War by Catherine Merridale into that ugly empty spot and you have at least one good book in there. And in a twisted and round-about fashion, it's even relevant!
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Libluini posted:Good, now squeeze Ivan's War by Catherine Merridale into that ugly empty spot and you have at least one good book in there. And in a twisted and round-about fashion, it's even relevant! Ivan's War made me realize most WH40K authors are only playing at grim dark.
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A Thousand Sons also has the two women remembrancers who don't do a heck of a lot beyond one of them dying to demonstrate to the civilian cast of the book just how far gone the Thousand Sons are and that it's time to leave Prospero. The other is even a lesbian, and her girlfriend chooses to abandon Prospero for the sake of love and saves the day for the remembrancers and Magnus' scribe guy fleeing the planet before the Space Wolves arrive.
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Annointed posted:That just because someone is feminist doesn't exclude the possibility of being a hypocritical delusional bitch? I'm just guessing.
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Groetgaffel posted:Last I checked I payed more like a third, not half. A third is taken when you receive your pay and then 25% is taken in VAT on the remainder when you use the money. Unless you spend it on fuel then it's 60%. It actually rounds out to somewhere around 52% in taxes. It's almost silly how we take VAT for granted. Zephyrine fucked around with this message at 06:01 on May 5, 2015 |
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Mechafunkzilla posted:You shouldn't be ashamed of having 40k or genre stuff in your bookshelf, but you should definitely be ashamed of having only 40k or genre stuff on your bookshelf because it means you only read one kind of book. poo poo, it's basically all fantasy/sci-fi.  
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Zephyrine posted:A third is taken when you receive your pay and then 25% is taken in VAT on the remainder when you use the money. Unless you spend it on fuel then it's 60%. It actually rounds out to somewhere around 52% in taxes. Oh well, I still have plenty to buy dumb books about spacemans. I always bring a book with me to work in case I have some waiting time to fill. In those cases generic bolterporn is perfect; I can just put it down whenever. Demiurge4 posted:poo poo, it's basically all fantasy/sci-fi. Nice touch having Richard Dawkins next to the Quran though. 
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Demiurge4 posted:poo poo, it's basically all fantasy/sci-fi.  You have an EVE online book. Just as lovely as the game.
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PRESIDENT GOKU posted:
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Demiurge4 posted:That book is my greatest shame, but I'll live with it Couldn't you've at least bought the EVE-books with nice art? (EVE: Source and The Art of New Eden are both fine books.)
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Libluini posted:Couldn't you've at least bought the EVE-books with nice art? (EVE: Source and The Art of New Eden are both fine books.) I bought it when I was into the RP scene (I'm just making this worse), it's the one about Sarum and the quasy psychic bullshit is what really killed EVE's formerly pure sci-fi and got me to quit the first time.
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Demiurge4 posted:poo poo, it's basically all fantasy/sci-fi. What's the Conan Anthology? Is it all the originals or does it have the add-ons too?
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It looks like the collected Robert E Howard stories (none of the L Sprague de Camp or other writers material) that was published a few years back. http://www.amazon.co.uk/Complete-Ch...robert+e+howard
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Immanentized posted:What's the Conan Anthology? Is it all the originals or does it have the add-ons too? The Complete Chronicles, I'll admit I only read halfway and haven't touched it in years. I think I bought it when Age of Conan was coming out. Dan Abnett's Warmaster comes out next month but the next Ravenor vs Eisenhorn book, Penitent, hasn't showed up on Amazon yet, is there a rough estimate for that ones release?
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Demiurge4 posted:
Thank goodness, feels like ages since Unremembered Empire...NEED MORE ADBNETT/ADB.
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So with all these detailed void wars in the books I'm surprised that they haven't been added to the board games yet. Like a parallel map where each sides ships can fight each other for positions to offer various support roles to the ground armies like orbital bombardments. Roll a 2 or more for successful transition into the warp You rolled a 1. Gamma field breach. Your space marines went insane and ate the human crew.
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Demiurge4 posted:Dan Abnett's Warmaster comes out next month Hooray, another book that I won't read because gently caress GW and $25 per ebook.
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Zephyrine posted:So with all these detailed void wars in the books I'm surprised that they haven't been added to the board games yet. Like a parallel map where each sides ships can fight each other for positions to offer various support roles to the ground armies like orbital bombardments. Planetary Empires was a thing and died a quick death.
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Immanentized posted:Planetary Empires was a thing and died a quick death. Let me guess. A battle barge cost $1500.
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Zephyrine posted:Let me guess. A battle barge cost $1500. Nah, it's hex tiles for campaign rules where you do stuff like capture factories or space ports to get bonuses in game. I don't think it gained much traction.
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Improbable Lobster posted:Nah, it's hex tiles for campaign rules where you do stuff like capture factories or space ports to get bonuses in game. I don't think it gained much traction.
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The main problem is that most planetary landings are not "opposed" in the 40k universe, in that you're not trying to run up Omaha Beach so much as slowly wiping out the orbital assets before a bombardment and then a deployment into cleared areas. The Sabbat Worlds book is great for hinting at how a planetary campaign works in macroscale, and there are actually rules for the various fighter/lander/troopship craft from BFG in Epic Armageddon so you can actually land your dudes on planet and then play the ground fight if you really really want to. There'd have to be at least *some* form of time disjoint though.
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Also, it was a campaign tracker - how many 40K players do you see actually playing a narrative campaign?
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I've seen a lot started, but they all turn into regular old leagues sooner or later.
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berzerkmonkey posted:Also, it was a campaign tracker - how many 40K players do you see actually playing a narrative campaign?
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SRM posted:My club's done 2 narrative campaigns that were really well put together, but unfortunately they kind of fizzled out right near the end. Personally I'd love to be part of another. I'm going to try and help one we're starting up here in Florida, and trying to branch out to other areas. I'll post about it when more info is concrete.
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MasterSlowPoke posted:I'm going to try and help one we're starting up here in Florida, and trying to branch out to other areas. I'll post about it when more info is concrete. What part of fl
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berzerkmonkey posted:Also, it was a campaign tracker - how many 40K players do you see actually playing a narrative campaign? I play narrative campaign games exclusively. Same goes for almost all of the people I play with.
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Waroduce posted:What part of fl Its base is in Miami and and I'll work on the Tampa/St. Pete side. What part of Florida are you in?
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I live in Fort Lauderdale, work out of an office in Miami, and the state is my territory, so thats pretty cool. Would totes play if you guys need/want another, but my only experience is dnd 3.5 and the scrunt play by post game. E: except for tampa, they got a bunch of federal poo poo I dont touch Waroduce fucked around with this message at 23:38 on May 6, 2015 |
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Demiurge4 posted:Dan Abnett's Warmaster comes out next month loving finally.
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