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blacksun posted:As do I, which is why you should join the Greens a try to get their stance on this changed. change from within
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# ? May 7, 2015 11:52 |
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dr_rat posted:Honestly if the budget goes south its probably more likely Abbott and hockey will get the toss. Abbott tied to close to Hockey and a bad budget will condemns them both. I agree. If Hockey goes, Abbott goes by the end of June. It should be a gentle budget. Should.I just don't know if Hockey is clever/tough enough to fight off more stupid proposals that somehow get traction in the party room that a Treasurer would normally bullet - or quit. The 2014 budget was the personification of Hockey. Clumsy, blundering, thoughtless and smug. One of our worst Treasurers I can recall.
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# ? May 7, 2015 11:53 |
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Tokamak posted:change from within Except the party in question isn't run by a bunch of neo-liberal lite poo poo-lords who won't ever allow anything to change from their trajectory towards the centre.
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# ? May 7, 2015 12:08 |
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# ? May 7, 2015 12:14 |
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Anidav posted:It's not like Mario Kart, no Bullet Bill is going to put you in first place again I think you mean spiky turtle shell, m8
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# ? May 7, 2015 12:15 |
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"Electoral Milk" Sensing a new avatar for Anidav.
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# ? May 7, 2015 12:20 |
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Apparently Tracy Grimshaw fell unconscious after she got thrown from a horse today. She's probably hallucinating Lebanese building workers and kitchen germs right now.
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# ? May 7, 2015 12:21 |
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Graic Gabtar posted:"Electoral Milk" This is the best thing Ciarg has ever posted.
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# ? May 7, 2015 12:24 |
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No thanks.
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# ? May 7, 2015 12:31 |
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blacksun posted:As do I, which is why you should join the Greens a try to get their stance on this changed. hahahahahahahahahahahahaahhahahahahahahahaahahahahahhahajahshajashksdfjdafkhjkjha
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# ? May 7, 2015 12:32 |
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blacksun posted:Except the party in question isn't run by a bunch of neo-liberal lite poo poo-lords who won't ever allow anything to change from their trajectory towards the centre. no, it's run by people with intelligence
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# ? May 7, 2015 12:33 |
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If we do go to an early election I wonder what Coalition policies will be. After they went back on most of their 2013 promises we'll probably just see them talking about vaguely needing to fix mess, and boasting about boats and the carbon tax. If they do go with a specific big policy I think it will be a gamble by putting an unpopular policy forward, like increasing the GST.
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# ? May 7, 2015 12:36 |
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Hockey getting the boot would be all my Christmases come at once. I want to see those fat, sweaty tears.
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# ? May 7, 2015 12:43 |
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Anidav posted:No thanks. C'mon! There's a glass and a half in every Senate bill block!
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# ? May 7, 2015 12:43 |
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Senor Tron posted:If we do go to an early election I wonder what Coalition policies will be. After they went back on most of their 2013 promises we'll probably just see them talking about vaguely needing to fix mess, and boasting about boats and the carbon tax. Well they conveniently made it so the pension increases that were mentioned today don't happen until 2017. Sneaky that.
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# ? May 7, 2015 13:01 |
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Green street cred: just went and voted Green in the UK election even though I'm coming back to Australia in a few months.
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# ? May 7, 2015 13:39 |
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BlitzkriegOfColour posted:I think you mean spiky turtle shell, m8 Nope, the Bullet Bill autopilots you ahead at a breakneck pace. The spiky shell just nukes the guy in first. Bullet Bill is the more accurate item to refer to here.
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Cleretic posted:Nope, the Bullet Bill autopilots you ahead at a breakneck pace. The spiky shell just nukes the guy in first. Bullet Bill is the more accurate item to refer to here. Mariowned.
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# ? May 7, 2015 14:08 |
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Are we still talking about nuclear power in australia seriously? what?
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# ? May 7, 2015 14:39 |
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Matthew Beet posted:Are we still talking about nuclear power in australia seriously? what? No, but, you see, despite the fact that Australia has no existing nuclear plants and that it would be prohibitively expensive and take absolutely years to construct them nuclear power makes perfect sense because...
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# ? May 7, 2015 14:45 |
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Matthew Beet posted:Are we still talking about nuclear power in australia seriously? what? But how else are we going to become a modern, forward looking, cyberpunk, dystopia? gently caress, if our future isn't destined to be at least somewhat similar to Mad Max, why the hell are we still living here?
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# ? May 7, 2015 14:56 |
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freebooter posted:Green street cred: just went and voted Green in the UK election even though I'm coming back to Australia in a few months. quote:Here’s a rare case of a candidate who doesn’t want any votes – and may not even mark an X next to his own name. James Parker, the Green candidate for the south London marginal of Eltham, has told his supporters they should give their votes to Labour, Jessica Elgot reports. as gently caress.
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# ? May 7, 2015 14:58 |
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Labour Left had some pretty good spies, I guess.
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# ? May 7, 2015 15:01 |
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doesn't the uk have fptp
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# ? May 7, 2015 15:04 |
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Seagull posted:doesn't the uk have fptp actively rejected preferential voting at a referendum a few years back
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# ? May 7, 2015 15:04 |
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Anidav posted:as gently caress. First past the post system. Unlike our objectively superior preferential system the most votes there alone = winner. Bo one wants to be Ralph Nader.
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# ? May 7, 2015 15:05 |
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Quantum Mechanic posted:actively rejected preferential voting at a referendum a few years back Thank you Rik Mayal and the Tories for that. One of John Howard's finest moments when asked about how complex this preference system was when he was over in England was his reaction of essentially 'are you all stupid?'
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# ? May 7, 2015 15:09 |
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http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-12974935
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# ? May 7, 2015 15:10 |
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Lid posted:Thank you Rik Mayal and the Tories for that. You make it sound like those are separate groups.
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# ? May 7, 2015 17:03 |
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Yeah, it's really eye-opening to come here and realise just how hosed their voting system is - not just FPTP, but an unelected upper house. At least in Australia if you live in a safe seat your Senate vote counts for something. The media is always banging on about why The Youth are so apathetic and disconnected, and all I can think is - why wouldn't they be? edit - although it's worth mentioning that as far as FPTP is concerned, the UK isn't behind the curve, Australia is well ahead of it. This might blow your collective minds but Australia is actually a really good and progressive country in a lot of ways.
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# ? May 7, 2015 18:02 |
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Matthew Beet posted:Are we still talking about nuclear power in australia seriously? what? I still think thorium would be excellent. Especially for side benefits like harvesting rare earth metal byproducts, or using up existing nuclear waste. But no one ever seems to mean that when they talk nuclear - they just assume more of the same old same old uranium junk, and that can get stuffed.
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# ? May 7, 2015 21:12 |
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FYI, D&D already solved our future energy sourcing needs: http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3713507
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# ? May 7, 2015 22:16 |
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Bifauxnen posted:I still think thorium would be excellent. Especially for side benefits like harvesting rare earth metal byproducts, or using up existing nuclear waste. But no one ever seems to mean that when they talk nuclear - they just assume more of the same old same old uranium junk, and that can get stuffed. This short video should hopefully help us with the discussion: http://youtu.be/AcS3NOQnsQM
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Birdstrike posted:FYI, D&D already solved our future energy sourcing needs: http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3713507 Composting shitposts could provide all the energy we ever need!
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UN calls for independent monitor at Nauru detention centre http://www.9news.com.au/national/2015/05/07/23/05/un-calls-for-monitor-on-nauru quote:The United Nations has reportedly called for an independent mechanism to monitor Australia's detention centre on Nauru.
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# ? May 8, 2015 00:12 |
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Wasnt the first batch of eager new cambodians due last week or the week before?
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# ? May 8, 2015 00:29 |
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Bifauxnen posted:I still think thorium would be excellent. Especially for side benefits like harvesting rare earth metal byproducts, or using up existing nuclear waste. But no one ever seems to mean that when they talk nuclear - they just assume more of the same old same old uranium junk, and that can get stuffed. Moving towards renewables immediately and then later including small modular reactors (whether they be thorium which would be preferable or later gen uranium) would be suitable. It's the same points I've brought up previously. Critical infrastructure such as hospitals and government facilities, ultra remote locations that are not feasible be connected to the renewable grid, the shipping industry etc are all examples of where the renewable grid simply isn't suitable to service. In Australia at least, there's no real need for a nuclear industry for baseload generation or to form any core component of general capacity, though I'm also not against it if public opinion shifts, as it will as those born during the Cold War die out. Have the Greens policies regarding Lucas Heights and medical reactors changed? Because this is a much larger concern to me.
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# ? May 8, 2015 00:43 |
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blacksun posted:Have the Greens policies regarding Lucas Heights and medical reactors changed? Because this is a much larger concern to me. This is a great question. I believe this is something that the NSW Greens put as policy and should have a very good look in to.
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UKPol, but still quote:First figures put Conservatives on 316 seats and Labour on 239, with the night looking to shape up badly for Labour in Glasgow, Nigel Farage in South Thanet while the Lib Dems insist they will end up with more than 10 seats
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