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http://www.reddit.com/r/simracing/comments/354818/project_cars_and_its_physics/ Reddit is a low hanging fruit but you can get a good sample of the usual arguments here, a few choice examples: quote:I've been only playing it for about an hour now so I don't really have that much to say yet. quote:I'll probably get downvoted for this, but Project Cars is anything but a simulator, as far as handling is concerned - you don't feel "connected" to the road. Its somewhat fun to drive, but i also don't like the fact that the tracks aren't accurate with the real ones. I'd say its arcade with slight feeling of simulator, pretty much what Grid Autosport was supposed to be. quote:It's a great game, and going to be a real treat for console owners accustomed to GT and Forza, but it does not achieve the feeling of realism offered by games like Assetto Corsa, iRacing, or Rfactor. quote:Regardless of how different the game is supposed to be from Shift 2, (a game I actually enjoyed for what it was, and played the hell out of) there is a certain woodenness to the cars that reminds me quite a bit of Shift 2's physics. I have a very hard time believing that pCars' physics were not built, at least partially, upon the original code written for Shift 2. quote:I pretty much own every racing game and this is the first one I've actually given away in disgust (I was a development donator so I gave my key away)
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The first two are hilarious. Simulation is true to life, somehow disappointed. And tracks not accurate. Jesus gently caress, the community nearly drove the track artists to group suicide with their nitpicking, but apparently it wasn't enough. --edit: My wheel doesn't work anymore in Windows 10. 
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May 7, 2015 14:35
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GutBomb posted:I've been reading the forums some more and apparently "btw in terms of surface bumps etc the forces are there, theyre the z parameter, try messing w/ it and/or the master spindle setting" Thanks, I'll have a look now, I've just 'finished work' ha ha
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May 7, 2015 14:45
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Bloody Hedgehog posted:Since the WMD forums are hidden and don't allow new users, is there anywhere that's compiled the best wheel settings and recommendations for the game? They are launching a community forum and it's being set up now. I believe yesterday their eta was "a couple days". People complaining that there is too much grip and then saying they play iRacing makes me laugh. These cars are built to be grippy and as easy to drive as possible that's how racing cars are. I've read a lot of the feedback from Ben Collins, Nic Hamilton, Oli Webb and if they are happy with how things feel then so am I. I'll believe them before I believe some random armchair racing driver who complains about too much grip. I also think people think they are entitled to laser scanned tracks in every game now and that's just stupid. advion fucked around with this message at 15:10 on May 7, 2015 |
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May 7, 2015 15:00
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The guys asking about my wheel settings. The only thing I've messed with outside of calibration stuff are my pedal deadzones. I can feel all the curbs, and things like when I'm on the edge of my grip. Is it the wheel weight that bothers you? I tend to go a bit lighter with my wheel, so the defaults feel nice for me.
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OK so this is a lot better now, Ginetta Junior on Laguna Seca, I have put the force feedback to max and also put the Buttkicker on and that helps a lot, rumble strips are a million times better now I can feel them in my rear end. Having a lot of fun, I have put my toys back in my pram and cheered up a lot.
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May 7, 2015 15:11
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Yeah. Butt kicker adds a lot to the game. I forgot I saw you posting about having one in the elite thread.
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May 7, 2015 15:18
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The dependability of this game's bugs is pretty funny. Go on any track in practice mode. Full throttle, turn right or left hard, don't let off. Watch now as your computer completely comes apart. The other fun stuff of "And sometimes when you switch what direction you're turning to, your character will just disagree and continue to turn in the wrong direction!" is pretty neat too. Super realistic, that, my hands just going the wrong way. Ho ho ho. quaunaut fucked around with this message at 15:29 on May 7, 2015 |
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May 7, 2015 15:24
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There's something hosed with your setup my friend.
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Norns posted:There's something hosed with your setup my friend. Control setup or in terms of bugs? For the former, I'm now on my 6th attempt at having controls that Will Make the Game Better™, and even got it in defaults. In terms of bugs, well, I've got a brand new 970, 16gb RAM, and an i5-3570k, with the settings turned down a bit from high. So if it's with my setup, then that's pretty awful considering how much I overpower these settings. Edit: It should be said, I've seen others complain of these bugs in some of the reddit threads too. Yaaaaay. quaunaut fucked around with this message at 15:44 on May 7, 2015 |
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May 7, 2015 15:38
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I'm on a I5 2500k @4.4 and a 780Ti with almost everything maxed out except AA and I'm not seeing anything like that. In only playing at 1080 right now though.
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May 7, 2015 15:42
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quaunaut posted:The other fun stuff of "And sometimes when you switch what direction you're turning to, your character will just disagree and continue to turn in the wrong direction!" is pretty neat too. Super realistic, that, my hands just going the wrong way. Ho ho ho. I have that problem when carts get stuck on my rear bumper.
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Anyone tried to drift? I'm hoping for forza levels of fun/realism so I can have a nice fun time with my friends.
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May 7, 2015 15:46
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Anyone got any good suggestions on the config for a 360 pad such as sensitivity and such? I'd use my wheel but its in storage and I'm trying to find a config that isn't so twitchy.
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May 7, 2015 15:47
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Shadowlz posted:I have that problem when carts get stuck on my rear bumper. I get it when even alone on a practice track(where I've spent 80% of my time now). And even with someone pushing against you, it shouldn't make your hands actually physically be turning the wrong direction.
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cheesetriangles posted:I think that is actually a real tree? Turns out the Snetterton scary tree is a thing yeah. As awesome as that is the damned thing totally cost me a race.  Suffering through Caterham Sevens in rain now, fun has plummeted. I miss Karts so much.
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Norns posted:I'm on a I5 2500k @4.4 and a 780Ti with almost everything maxed out except AA and I'm not seeing anything like that. Same setup for the most part but I'm at 4.2ghz and running at 3440x1440. Haven't had any issues for the last 20 dev builds.
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Everything has clicked into place for me and this is a loving blast now, totally sold on it. It's good in the Rift as well, but I haven't had much time to mess with it, the key for me has been get in a low powered car and rev the poo poo out of it in a controlled way. The graphics are just something else and the weather just changed mid race, it blew me away to be honest how convincing it was.
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May 7, 2015 15:56
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Thunderstorms at night on a track like Imola is terrifying. I did a few laps in a lotus 49 that way. Highly recommend.
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Illuminated Rodent posted:Suffering through Caterham Sevens in rain now, fun has plummeted. I miss Karts so much. Going back and forth between the Sevens and Karts for those two invitationals is a little jarring, they couldn't possibly handle any more differently from each other.
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May 7, 2015 16:08
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Bape Culture posted:Anyone tried to drift? I'm hoping for forza levels of fun/realism so I can have a nice fun time with my friends. Drifting around Sonoma with the Mercedes hatchback in the rain was great fun last night.
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May 7, 2015 16:11
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Do we still not have a Steam group for this game? Do I really have to make it? I'll probably be the least active, and when I will be active, I'll be in last place.
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I tried out Kart. If you guys think that is bad, just try game stock car. I couldn't even make myself spin out. You guys are bad. Sorry I'm about ready to call this the best racing game of all time
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So I managed to jump into the top 100 on the community event while my buddy landed himself in the top 40. The problem I am having with a controller is not the degree of control I have with all the assists off, its the complete lack of feedback. The rumble feature for Forza 5 let me know the EXACT moment I lost traction. In this game, you might as well turn it off because it just rumbles for no god drat apparent reason. I seriously thought my hands were going numb. I'd say though, that this isn't as hardcore simulation as I thought it was. I really thought I was going to have to buy a wheel and pedals in order to have a chance at running fast. I'm glad to see I was wrong, as this is probably my preferred level of realism (just under simulation) and its graphically beautiful. --Does anyone know why my car seems to stick to a dude if we rub sides and slow you both down dramatically? Its pretty annoying to have battles in the turns and constantly slow down because I lightly tapped or was tapped. Is there a way to turn it off? --What shifts faster? Clutch or no clutch. I could give a gently caress about clutching unless your shift time is shorter --To you controller players, what speed sense are you finding works for you?
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ethanol posted:I tried out Kart. If you guys think that is bad, just try game stock car. I couldn't even make myself spin out. You guys are bad. Sorry Pft, Burnout 3: Takedown best racer, man.
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Endbuster posted:So I managed to jump into the top 100 on the community event while my buddy landed himself in the top 40. The problem I am having with a controller is not the degree of control I have with all the assists off, its the complete lack of feedback. The rumble feature for Forza 5 let me know the EXACT moment I lost traction. In this game, you might as well turn it off because it just rumbles for no god drat apparent reason. I seriously thought my hands were going numb. The FFB is weird. It's definitely not right on the controller. I can't blame the game too much though, microsoft's drivers are simply inadequate.
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Superkarts at hockenheim tonight fuckyall when i get home.
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ethanol posted:The FFB is weird. It's definitely not right on the controller. I can't blame the game too much though, microsoft's drivers are simply inadequate. I seem to recall a gaming platform made by this M$ company you speak of. I think they developed the controller I am playing the game on. Oh wait, OOHGOD THEY DID!? But it in all seriousness, thanks for the insight... makes sense.
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Endbuster posted:I seem to recall a gaming platform made by this M$ company you speak of. I think they developed the controller I am playing the game on. Oh wait, OOHGOD THEY DID!?
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Illuminated Rodent posted:Turns out the Snetterton scary tree is a thing yeah. As awesome as that is the damned thing totally cost me a race. 
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The worst part of the controller issues is they had the xbox one rumble triggers working for pc at one point. They demoed the controller on PCs first. 
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I find it hilarious you guys are blaming MS for this game's lovely controller handling, when I've literally not had a single problem with any other of a dozen games with my One controller, it's just this, in a game that you already acknowledge has serious control issues in other regards
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Wallrod posted:From Snetterton's own twitter: Alright I cave, Snatterton is the best racetrack.
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quaunaut posted:I find it hilarious you guys are blaming MS for this game's lovely controller handling, when I've literally not had a single problem with any other of a dozen games with my One controller, it's just this, in a game that you already acknowledge has serious control issues in other regards I find it halarious that you keep blaming the controlls. I was just talking about the FFB. And so was everyone else.
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quaunaut posted:I find it hilarious you guys are blaming MS for this game's lovely controller handling, when I've literally not had a single problem with any other of a dozen games with my One controller, it's just this, in a game that you already acknowledge has serious control issues in other regards Handling and FFB are two very different things, chief and it's pretty important for racing games compared to diablo 3 or whatever
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I have a question for all yous guys who have already purchased the game. Is there any kind of system in place (like iRacing's SR) to keep the online racing clean and wreck free? If not, what is there to keep me from making GBS threads up race servers with bumper car action?
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Wallrod posted:From Snetterton's own twitter: That fuckin tree makes me laugh everytime it comes into view to such an extent that I nearly crash
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ethanol posted:Handling and FFB are two very different things, chief and it's pretty important for racing games compared to diablo 3 or whatever Yeah, and zero issues with Corza, Elite, DiRT Rally, GTA 5, etc etc etc. If it were nothing but losing grip at random rear end times I'd say fine, maybe I'm just bad(even though I've been at this awhile without issue), but when I have repeated instances of not updating turn direction, throttle bugginess(once again, as your car drives out to begin qualifying, just hold down throttle and watch it freak out the moment you've got manual control) and just plain feeling awful because of terrible defaults, that's just poo poo on the developer's side.
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quaunaut posted:Yeah, and zero issues with Corza, Elite, DiRT Rally, GTA 5, etc etc etc. you're just being ignorant then, nobody said games were unplayable, but the ffb is 100x better on xbox one if you ever try it
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