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I did a quick look over the removal commons: same: sunlance arrest narcolepsy bone splinters nameless inversion burst lightning fiery fall tribal flames mana leak shifted down: gut shot uncommons: same: electrolyze savage twister vengeful rebirth shifted up: agony warp lightning bolt pillory of the sleepless oblivion ring wrecking ball spread the sickness I'm mostly looking at the expensive single target removal and savage twister at the same rarity. Sunlance seems kind of standout among the common list imo. Zoness fucked around with this message at 16:53 on May 8, 2015 |
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"What's that rare red creature from Zendikar? The one that everyone plays in modern decks? I was just thinking that would make a great reprint in the new Modern Masters set, but now I can't remember which one it was. The one that everyone wants...a red creature that is rare...and played over all eternal formats..." "...oh you mean Hellkite Charger?" "THANK YOU FOR REMINDING ME!" 
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Looks like a pretty cool limited environment. Also, lol at complaints about reprints, seriously guys the first set was missing loads of crucial cards why did you expect this to be any different
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May 8, 2015 16:55
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Ciprian Maricon posted:Looks like a pretty cool limited environment. I hope one day they release "expensive cards:the set" and everyone will see that it does not drive prices down as much when it sucks to draft so we can finally shut up about this.
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Zoness posted:I'm mostly looking at the expensive single target removal and savage twister at the same rarity. An uncommon sweeper (even if it is in a tricky colour combination) certainly seems like it's relevant to the format. It's probably a card you'll want to think about playing around if your opponent appears to be "flooding out"...
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Starving Autist posted:I hope one day they release "expensive cards:the set" and everyone will see that it does not drive prices down as much when it sucks to draft so we can finally shut up about this. I want to have literally one draft format (aside from Cube) where everyone can do ridiculous things and the typical stale draft tropes don't apply.
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So the color combination themes seem to be: UW: Artifacts (goddamn there are a lot of cards for this deck and this deck only). UB: -1/-1 counters/ proliferate/you draw cards and your opponents discard cards? This combination looks like just U/B good stuff BR: Bloodthirst GR: 5 color (uncommon Worldheart Phoenix goddamn) GW: Tokens/convoke, and the pumping of said tokens UR: Elemental Tribal (with uncommon Incandescent Soulstoke) RW: Equipment/ doublestrike guys (like, there are a LOT of guys with double strike) WB: Spirit tribal BG: tokens/sacking creatures GU: +1/+1 counters/Proliferate Lets Pickle fucked around with this message at 17:16 on May 8, 2015 |
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tentative list for FTV: Goblins Goblin Recruiter Goblin Matron Goblin Ringleader Siege-Gang Commander Goblin Grenade Clickslither Patriarch's Bidding Gempalm Incinerator Goblin Lackey Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker Zo-Zu, the Punisher Ben-Ben, Akki Hermit Thalia, Guardian of Thraben Aether Vial Goblin Game Facevaulter Marsh Flitter (and of course the entry from zendikar:) Warren Instigator But joking aside it's hilarious if you think goblin guide would have been anything but mythic.
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May 8, 2015 17:14
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Goblin Guide would make zero sense at mythic.
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mr. mephistopheles posted:Goblin Guide would make zero sense in a draft set. 
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Boco_T posted:TCG Mid on Serum Visions is $7.75 right now, so I figure it'll get to $10 soon enough.
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So based on some rough calculations, assuming big ticket cards don't drop hugely and counting bulk rares no one actually wants as being worth $0, your average value for a pack's rare is about 6 or 7 bucks, but your median case is in the dollar-bin. Mythic is stacked, but there's only about 8/53 rares worth more than the price of the pack. You have a decent chance of opening money and an excellent chance of opening bulk. The set is really polarized in value. Your average case is probably a little better value than your usual block set pack, it's just that the buy in price is higher. I.e. it's still true that you don't crack packs for value. As has been true for every set always, ever, and will continue to be true for every set in the future. This should not be a surprise. Of course I'm not accounting for foils at all, or money uncommons like Remand. Looks super fun to draft though. I can't wait to play with Proliferate again.
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To be fair Serum Visions only spiked in 2014, by which point they'd probably already finished making the set.
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Aren't all sets a draft set?
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Irony Be My Shield posted:To be fair Serum Visions only spiked in 2014, by which point they'd probably already finished making the set. I mean that's essentially also true for goblin guide for July 2014 if you think $10 was reasonable. Sickening posted:Aren't all sets a draft set? Can you really call AVR a draft set tho
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Entropic posted:Mythic is stacked, but there's only about 8/53 rares worth more than the price of the pack. I count Twin, Cryptic, Noble, Fulminator, Wilt-Leaf, Leyline, and Spellskite. What's the last one? Edit: All is Dust and Daybreak Coronet are both over $10 I see. I guess that makes 9. Edit: There really should be some comical sad music that plays every time someone opens a Mythic in MM15 and it's Comet Storm. qbert fucked around with this message at 17:36 on May 8, 2015 |
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May 8, 2015 17:29
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qbert posted:I count Twin, Cryptic, Noble, Fulminator, Wilt-Leaf, Leyline, and Spellskite. What's the last one?
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qbert posted:I count Twin, Cryptic, Noble, Fulminator, Wilt-Leaf, and Spellskite. What are the other two? Creakwood is >$10. Blinkmoth, hierarch, Coronet, Hurkyl's are all at 10 or above. The only cards I'm really sad about are Visions, Mindcensor, Probe, and Path. Edit: ok fine Inquisition, Blood Moon, Helix, Vial, Crucible, Bridge, Auriok Champion and Glimpse.
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qbert posted:Edit: There really should be some comical sad music that plays every time someone opens a Mythic in MM15 and it's Comet Storm.
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DAD LOST MY IPOD posted:Creakwood is >$10. Blinkmoth, hierarch, Coronet, Hurkyl's are all at 10 or above. Hurkyl's is only $10 for 10E or AQ, 5E Hurkyl's is like $5.
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qbert posted:I count Twin, Cryptic, Noble, Fulminator, Wilt-Leaf, Leyline, and Spellskite. What's the last one? They need a packaged together speaker-card which plays the Price Is Right's "You Fail" horns whenever you open one. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ytCEuuW2_A
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Yawgmoth posted:sadtrombone.midi https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJxCdh1Ps48
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Zoness posted:Hurkyl's is only $10 for 10E or AQ, 5E Hurkyl's is like $5. Hurkyl's on MTGO is up there I think.
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Yawgmoth posted:sadtrombone.midi That's exactly what I was thinking of. Is there seriously no 2nd Mythic level Red money card in Modern? Edit: Could they have reprinted Blood Moon or Magus of the Moon or Through the Breech? qbert fucked around with this message at 17:44 on May 8, 2015 |
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May 8, 2015 17:41
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They should have had Lightning Bolt at both Uncommon and Mythic.
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I hope that people's disappointment doesn't slow down preregistration at GPLV  I want them to hit 9k so I can be activated!
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qbert posted:That's exactly what I was thinking of. What they should have done is either a) switch Splinter Twin with Comet Storm to reduce the feel-bad, or b) omit Comet Storm entirely and put Koth in his spot since its much less of a feel bad to open a Planeswalker than it is to open a loving Comet Storm. I mean, the third option is print better red cards, but red's color identity has been burn and burn harder for a long time. Angry Grimace fucked around with this message at 17:48 on May 8, 2015 |
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Goblin Guide may show up in Battle For Zendikar right?
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Someone make a gallery of new art TIA.
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If you're drafting this set you should probably avoid playing Black like the plague since it looks like total garbage. It really looks unplayable. Angry Grimace fucked around with this message at 18:26 on May 8, 2015 |
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Dohaeris posted:Goblin Guide may show up in Battle For Zendikar right? Yes 100% chance no problem will happen for sure place your preorders now
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All the talk about box EV right now is pointless. Yes a spellskite is $18 today or whatever but the buylist on them will be at most $4-5 come release time.
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Starving Autist posted:I hope one day they release "expensive cards:the set" and everyone will see that it does not drive prices down as much when it sucks to draft so we can finally shut up about this. Putting Serum Visions or Koth or Damnation in this set instead of whatever other absolute jank would truly be the dagger in the back of having a fun set to draft. I guess that's not literally what you said but I'm tired of people excluding the middle when it comes to things like this.
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Also PAX party is in the annex this year instead of the club it's usually at  Feeling less bad I wasn't around for the millisecond that tickets were available.
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JerryLee posted:Putting Serum Visions or Koth or Damnation in this set instead of whatever other absolute jank would truly be the dagger in the back of having a fun set to draft. I'd be more sympathetic to the "draft environment!" claim if there was more than like 1 week of being able to draft it, with 95% of the players just playing the Tarmogoyf lottery to begin with.
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Goblin guide isn't in the set cuz he's about to get banned you heard it here first. 
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Fuzzy Mammal posted:Goblin guide isn't in the set cuz he's about to get banned you heard it here first. This but serum visions
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Zoness posted:This but serum visions This but Deceiver Exarch/Pestermite.
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JerryLee posted:Putting Serum Visions or Koth or Damnation in this set instead of whatever other absolute jank would truly be the dagger in the back of having a fun set to draft. The middle isn't excluded, it's what we're getting. A set with some expensive reprints, a lot of cheap crap, and it's probably fun to draft. I dunno about you but in a high powered limited format i'm not that excited about putting Goblin Guide in my draft set and I'm glad they're prioritizing limited over just making the set just be the 250 most expensive modern cards.
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