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oda does it again
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May 9, 2015 05:58
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so I'll bite: what am i supposed to see in the intense darkness?
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May 9, 2015 05:59
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dogsicle posted:so I'll bite: what am i supposed to see in the intense darkness? Bow and arrow.
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May 9, 2015 06:00
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The bow and arrow.
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May 9, 2015 06:00
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i think some people are disappointed that a glimpse of pucci wasn't shown hanging around or something, but that would be a hell of a reference and the bow and arrow are definitely 'safer' to use because an arc 4 anime is much more likely than an arc 6 one at the moment.
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May 9, 2015 06:02
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Pucci being around wouldn't really make sense, though, would it? I mean, he seems like the kind of guy who would've gladly helped DIO fight against the Joestars.
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May 9, 2015 06:04
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Hobgoblin2099 posted:Pucci being around wouldn't really make sense, though, would it? I mean, he seems like the kind of guy who would've gladly helped DIO fight against the Joestars. When do you propose Pucci visited Dio in the 80s?
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May 9, 2015 06:09
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Maybe he visited him back before they reached Egypt. When they were still early on in their journey, perhaps?
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May 9, 2015 06:12
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Can't wait for Jotaro to find a book in Dio's mansion and wonder why it's just the words "rhinoceros beetle" over and over
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May 9, 2015 06:28
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Jotaro finds a scribbled note with Dio's handwriting: "How does it work????"
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May 9, 2015 07:55
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Ekusukariba posted:So did anyone point out what is on Dio's wall yet? Ｙｅｓ！ Ｙｅｓ！ Ｙｅｓ！ Ｏｈ Ｍｙ Ｇｏｄ！
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May 9, 2015 07:56
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Davinci posted:I bet Holly's stand would be really cool if she had the fighting spirit to bend it to her will. Enourmo posted:Y'all are crazy if you don't think her stand would be called Ｈｏｌｌｙｗｏｏｄ Ｒｏｓｅ No you fools. It would clearly be「 Ｂｕｄｄｉｎｇ Ｈｏｌｌｙ」
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May 9, 2015 09:15
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Kurtofan posted:Jotaro finds a scribbled note with Dio's handwriting: "How does it work????" Nah, that should be 「Ｉｔ ｊｕｓｔ ｗｏｒｋｓ」
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May 9, 2015 15:32
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DIO's notes on how to attain Heaven were clearly a prank scavenger hunt or some form of bizarre friendship ritual he had planned for Pucci that was meant to be more symbolic than anything. Pucci just somehow managed to get it to actually work. Probably because of gravity. Blueberry Pancakes fucked around with this message at 15:58 on May 9, 2015 |
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May 9, 2015 15:53
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I hope the words of heaven are written on The World.
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May 9, 2015 16:08
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Waffleman_ posted:I hope the words of heaven are written on The World. Originally I wanted Pucci to make a ~2 second cameo but I would actually prefer this. It's just subtle enough, like the birthmarks on Jonathan and Joseph and the bow and arrow.
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May 9, 2015 19:47
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Furious that I've finally caught up with the JoJo anime. Once this series over I don't feel like I have much choice but to start reading the fan translations of Part 4 onwards. How good are they compared to the official anime translations? Just want to know what I'm in for. Are there multiple fan translations and is one of them clearly the best?
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May 9, 2015 21:01
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Duwang is the best. It's all you'll ever need.
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May 9, 2015 21:06
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All of Part 4 has been retranslated and it's fine. You don't have to read Duwang. No one does anymore.
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May 9, 2015 21:08
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Part 4 has two well known translations. The Duwang translations, which are terrible, but also beloved by many who have read them. They still manage to perfectly convey the Jojo spirit, and are also really funny at times. You can expect many, many people to post Duwang quotes when the anime gets to part 4. Not only is this translated badly, but it also looks bad. It uses low resolution black and white scans with shoddy ms paint drawn rectangles over the speech bubbles to write in. There's also the new translation, I haven't read this one but I think it only uses colored scans and puts a decent amount of effort into making it look nice. This is an actually well done translation, and it even keeps some of the more iconic Duwang lines. Basically if it looks bad and reads bad, you're reading Duwang, and if it looks and reads good you're reading the new one. Also don't read part 4 until part 3 finishes, as it has major spoilers for part 3 in it. Davinci fucked around with this message at 21:17 on May 9, 2015 |
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May 9, 2015 21:14
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The official anime translations are pretty middling even at their best, so if you're concerned about a drop in quality, it's not an issue. The good translation of 4 is black and white and the colour one is in progress. Batoto has what you need for anything that isn't legally available already.
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May 9, 2015 21:23
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Thanks for the information! Has Duwang continued until where the manga is currently up until Part 8? I can see myself blazing through a lot of these as I'm a fast reader.
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May 9, 2015 21:32
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Duwang is only part 4. Part 5 has a translation that looks and reads better, but is actually worse because it outright makes poo poo up, and its retranslation is slow. From then on, the translations are at the least acceptable.
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May 9, 2015 21:39
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DUWANG is just for part 4. Basically it goes like this: Part 4 has a good translation, as does the the first third or so of Part 5, then it becomes poo poo. Part 6 is fine and then parts 7&8 are good again.
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May 9, 2015 21:40
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The good part 4 translation is by the invincible trio
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May 9, 2015 21:58
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Calling the new translations the "good" translations is a bit misleading. Sure, they have better scans and editing, and are written in fluent English, but that just distracts people from the fact that the translation isn't actually very good. Also, the first few volumes just copy the script straight out of Duwang, except they edited it into proper English.
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May 9, 2015 22:25
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What's wrong with that? The problem with Duwang wasn't the accuracy, it was the awful grammar. Its not like the Part V translation where they just make random poo poo up.
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May 9, 2015 22:28
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Broseph Brostar posted:What's wrong with that? The problem with Duwang wasn't the accuracy, it was the awful grammar. Its not like the Part V translation where they just make random poo poo up. Duwang's somewhat funny when you look at a collection of all the silly lines, but do not actually read Duwang because it's still bad and The Invincible Trio did a good job with fixing up that dumpster fire.
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May 9, 2015 23:06
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My favorite part of the part 5 translaton was when there was a two page aside trying to explain king crimson and does the worst job I have ever seen doing so.
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May 9, 2015 23:34
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Yeah, the best comparison I can think of for Duwang is HK subs. They're basically accurate (aside from cocking up names all the time) but the grammar is completely awful.
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May 9, 2015 23:46
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If you want to get an idea of how hilariously terrible Duwang subs are this is the classic collage of panels. I'd warn you about spoilers but looking over it, it's so non-sensical you honestly won't be able to get spoiled on anything from looking at it.
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May 10, 2015 00:19
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"Get a feeling so complicated" is a miracle of the english language, and I will stand by that to the death.
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May 10, 2015 00:52
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Broseph Brostar posted:What's wrong with that? The problem with Duwang wasn't the accuracy, it was the awful grammar. Its not like the Part V translation where they just make random poo poo up. I can think of quite a few things wrong with the Duwang translation: - You don't get the random Emphasis that Araki inserts into his Dialogue. - The gangster doesn't diss Josuke's hair by comparing him to Astro Boy - Josuke doesn't go, "What was that again? Didja say my hair looked like Sazae-san's?" when he's punching him. That's skimming the first chapter, but I could probably find more if I had nothing better to do in the afternoon. Anyway, trusting that Duwang is a good translation means having faith that the guys who translated Jojo into Chinese, as well as the guy who translated the Chinese translation into English, managed to do their jobs without loving anything up. Given the Duwang guy struggles to even form a proper sentence, I think we can agree that even if he managed to translate the general meaning of the text, you're still only getting a hazy image of the original at best. Although it is better than what we have for Vento Aureo, I'll give you that. Moltrey posted:Duwang's somewhat funny when you look at a collection of all the silly lines, but do not actually read Duwang because it's still bad and The Invincible Trio did a good job with fixing up that dumpster fire. I don't want to get too deep into this, but there are times where they completely miss the meaning of the text where Duwang actually did decently, like so: 
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May 10, 2015 02:05
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I'm pretty sure the translation with the colored scans brings those back, at least. e: the disses aren't specific but they're basically the same meaning, and honestly cutting the Sazae-san reference is probably a good move since that series is pretty much a footnote outside Japan. WeedlordGoku69 fucked around with this message at 02:09 on May 10, 2015 |
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May 10, 2015 02:06
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That's cuz the colored scans for the final two volumes of Part 4 are done by someone else to celebrate Araki's birthday. 
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May 10, 2015 03:08
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I unironically love the "I feel you" line and feel like it perfectly suits Okuyasu in its weird, stilted earnestness.
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May 10, 2015 05:05
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Zero_Tactility posted:I unironically love the "I feel you" line and feel like it perfectly suits Okuyasu in its weird, stilted earnestness. I've only read the newer translation of Part 4, and I didn't even realize on my readthrough that that was one of the old Duwang lines; it just kind of fit.
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May 10, 2015 05:31
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Crunchyroll better not be loving with me, staff doing location scouting for part iv?: http://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-news/2015/05/09-1/jojos-bizarre-adventure-part-iv-diamond-is-unbreakable-anime-teased
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May 10, 2015 07:08
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CJ posted:If you want to get an idea of how hilariously terrible Duwang subs are this is the classic collage of panels. I'd warn you about spoilers but looking over it, it's so non-sensical you honestly won't be able to get spoiled on anything from looking at it. The "My Mom!" Line further enables my belief that Part 4 is just Regular Show and in my head Okuyasu sounds like Muscle Man.
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