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YggdrasilTM posted:Deen VS Ufotable. Wow. I had heard that the Deen version was bad, but didn't realize it was this bad.
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The Deen version was 'good enough' before we got UFO because all we had previously was whoever did the original FSN
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May 6, 2015 12:33
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Pierson posted:The Deen version was 'good enough' before we got UFO because all we had previously was whoever did the original FSN The original mish-mashed FSN series was also DEEN, if I remember correctly. I like how Type-Moon handled their dealings with UFO. They gave them the Kara no Kyoukai movies, first, to see how they could handle the abstract story telling and animation quality. Then, they gave them the slightly more notable Fate/Zero (due to Urobuchi's noteriety). And after blowing both of those out of the water, they're on track to do/re-do basically every Type-Moon franchise. And it is glorious. 
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May 6, 2015 12:58
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If we got Tsukihime in anime form I might die. Shiki was loving nuts. And so was SHIKI. And also the person impersonating Shiki. Not to be confused with another Shiki in the Type-Moon universe.
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May 6, 2015 13:13
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I don't think ufotable is going to touch Tsukihime until/if the remake comes out.
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May 6, 2015 13:14
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But we already have a Tsukihime anime. 
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May 6, 2015 13:15
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I want UFOtable to only adapt the Hisui route. e: Or was it Kohaku's route that consisted solely of talking with a dude in a park
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That happens in Kohaku's route but it's far from the only thing that happens in Best Route. Any Tsukihime anime is probably either going to ape the manga and combine the Arc, Ciel, and Akiha routes or do "Satsuki Normal" to setup Melty Blood because for some reason nobody understands that Kohaku is superior.
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May 6, 2015 15:26
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HellCopter posted:e: Or was it Kohaku's route that consisted solely of talking with a dude in a park This unironically needs to be a whole episode.
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May 6, 2015 19:46
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Sakurazuka posted:But we already have a Tsukihime anime. 
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May 6, 2015 19:57
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this isnt the type moon thread???
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May 6, 2015 20:00
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Heh, Saber kept the ponytail. Archer is a butt, Lancer is the best.
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Compendium posted:Heh, Saber kept the ponytail. It looks good on her though.  In other news they revealed who archer actually is, though in a round about way. I quite liked how they showed his past and all, kinda explains why he turned into such a dick. Myurton fucked around with this message at 20:26 on May 9, 2015 |
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May 9, 2015 20:24
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A lot of weird translations these past few episodes. Felt like some scenes were cut or something.
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May 9, 2015 20:32
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Yeah, subs were kind of wonky. Maybe it's because of I'm watching on Hulu with ads on, but man is the pacing rough.
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May 9, 2015 20:33
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Was kinda hoping that the Rin/Saber oath scene would be a bit more dramatic, what we got felt rather rushed.
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May 9, 2015 21:30
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Compendium posted:Yeah, subs were kind of wonky. Maybe it's because of I'm watching on Hulu with ads on, but man is the pacing rough. Yeah, the Hulu ads threw off the pacing a lot. Episode kinda felt rushed, but at least the title drop was cool...
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May 9, 2015 21:38
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Paracelsus posted:Was kinda hoping that the Rin/Saber oath scene would be a bit more dramatic, what we got felt rather rushed. Agreed. Saber's stats are amazing with Rin as her Master and in the VN it described Saber having almost overwhelming power the moment she makes the pact. Here's it's just, "oh so that happened."
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May 9, 2015 21:47
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I was hoping for more Shirou vs. Archer in UBW, but it just ended very suddenly. Also, have there consistently been scenes after the end credits? I was surprised to see the temple scene with Gilgy.
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May 9, 2015 22:16
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Compendium posted:Yeah, subs were kind of wonky. Maybe it's because of I'm watching on Hulu with ads on, but man is the pacing rough. Apparently, it has less to do with wonky subs and more to do with Nasu having famously poor prose which Ufotable's scriptwriters were loath to alter overmuch. That doesn't give translators much wiggle-room.
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I thought the Saber/Rin bit was pretty cool, maybe not quite the swirling moment of extra dramatic triumph it could have been (that could be said for a lot of moments in this TV show), but seeing Archer get clobbered so unceremoniously was the first thing I've ever seen Saber do that made me think she actually was any good at anything other than taking verbal abuse.
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May 9, 2015 22:26
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Same here. I thought it was pretty cool.
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OnimaruXLR posted:seeing Archer get clobbered so unceremoniously was the first thing I've ever seen Saber do that made me think she actually was any good at anything other than taking verbal abuse. *the caveat being that she doesn't have any haxx like 12 extra lives, every Noble Phantasm that ever existed, or a weapon that flips causality; she's simply incredibly powerful and has no weaknesses.
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May 9, 2015 22:55
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I think it's all been pretty cool and I guess I'm glad I haven't read the vn yet since that seems to lead to some disappointment with the adaptation.
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May 9, 2015 22:58
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a kitten posted:I think it's all been pretty cool and I guess I'm glad I haven't read the vn yet since that seems to lead to some disappointment with the adaptation. Yeah, I think that's it since I read UBW so there's definitely some mild disappointment. The original material isn't the best ever, so I think I might have been hoping too much for the dialogue to be spruced up for this adaption.
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This might be my favourite episode of UBW, even with less action porn in favour of more dialogue. I was wondering how they were going to increase the intensity of the war after Caster's death and now I can see. Rin mastering Saber was unexpected but great. I completely forgot she tried to get her originally.
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a kitten posted:I think it's all been pretty cool and I guess I'm glad I haven't read the vn yet since that seems to lead to some disappointment with the adaptation.
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Shneak posted:This might be my favourite episode of UBW, even with less action porn in favour of more dialogue. I was wondering how they were going to increase the intensity of the war after Caster's death and now I can see.
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May 10, 2015 01:21
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So after having seen these past two episodes I'm kind of confused about pretty much everything that Archer has done. I already knew what was going on with him and Shirou because spoilers but why did he not just kill him at any given point in time and why did he do the entire double betrayal thing. Is he just acting on a whim all the time? I'm having a hard time pinning down his actual motivations. Is it that he has kind of given up and doesn't have a goal anymore? e: Maybe what I should be asking is if this will be addressed at some point. After thinking a bit longer I assume this will come up fairly soon? Absum fucked around with this message at 03:15 on May 10, 2015 |
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Absum posted:So after having seen these past two episodes I'm kind of confused about pretty much everything that Archer has done. Some of it I think is still to come, but I think he just can't kill any Shirou, but a Shirou closer to what he was, even coaxing him on the way, and possible bragging rights against Shirou by crushing his ideal
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May 10, 2015 03:24
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He basically just chopped Shirou down earlier when he saved him from Caster but Shirou was durable and managed to get to Saber. Archer was command sealed after that.
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May 10, 2015 03:33
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he was under a command seal from rin not to kill shirou. the betrayal let him escape that
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Absum posted:So after having seen these past two episodes I'm kind of confused about pretty much everything that Archer has done. Rin used a Command Seal on him to prevent Archer from attacking Shirou again after the whole Caster kidnapping thing and it's aftermath where he tried to kill him the first time. e:f;b
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Absum posted:So after having seen these past two episodes I'm kind of confused about pretty much everything that Archer has done. His double betrayal was to get him away from Rin's Command Seal to not go after Shirou, and the only way to do that was to get Caster to use Rule Breaker on him. Otherwise he would be hopelessly hamstrung from the effects of Rin's order to oppose Saber in any meaningful capacity if he tried to kill Shirou again. Turning against Caster was just dropping her like a bad habit after he knew she was in a bad situation and wouldn't be able to punish him for disobedience. He never was really loyal to Caster, anyway. He only needed her to break his bond with Rin.
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Cake Attack posted:he was under a command seal from rin not to kill shirou. the betrayal let him escape that Basically this.
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Darth Walrus posted:Apparently, it has less to do with wonky subs and more to do with Nasu having famously poor prose which Ufotable's scriptwriters were loath to alter overmuch. That doesn't give translators much wiggle-room. Dunno from what I've heard of moonspeakers his prose is actually pretty ok and even nice in japanese but also a bitch to translate. I vaguely recall something about it being quite flowery?
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May 10, 2015 05:24
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I can't believe I didn't figure out it Archer's connection to Shirou even after last week's "Trace on..."
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Every time I think "there can't be people who still haven't catched on to that" and someone proves me wrong. It's pretty amazing.
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Yeah, that's why I'm always unhappy with the VN readers who continuously complain that Ufotable is being too blatant. If anything, they're the ones being spoilers.
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ChronoReverse posted:Yeah, that's why I'm always unhappy with the VN readers who continuously complain that Ufotable is being too blatant. If anything, they're the ones being spoilers. I don't think I've seen a VN reader complain that ufotable is showing too much info in this anime, almost all the people that I come across who dislike this anime compared to the VN say that it's not presenting enough, especially Shirou's inner monologues or whatever particular part of text that they insist is absolutely vital to understanding a character's actions and mindset...
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