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SymmetryrtemmyS
Jul 13, 2013

I got super tired of seeing your avatar throwing those fuckin' glasses around in the astrology thread so I fixed it to a .jpg

Killsion posted:

I absolutely adore my Logitech Trackman Marble trackball. I can't even use anything else at this point since I've used it for upwards of 15 years now. Despite that, the lack of something like a wheel is endlessly frustrating, so I've been looking into higher quality "gaming" trackballs, but none of them really seem to have the feel of the Trackman Marble. I have seen this recommended in the past, but the shape really puts me off even trying it. It just does not look nearly as comfortable as the Trackman Marble to me. I just really wish Logitech would upgrade the basic design and give it more utility.

It's a bit larger than you might be imagining. My wrist rests on the curved bit. Unlike smaller trackballs, you don't grip this one at all.

I do have a scroll wheel solution, though. It's an auto hotkey script I dug up. I can post it later tonight. The way it works is you hold any button and move the cursor up or down, and it acts like a scroll wheel.

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Diddie
Sep 1, 2001

What the heck is going on in here???

Gwyrgyn Blood posted:

Yep that was pretty much my exact progression on the Avior as well. Naos is much better overall, but obviously only for right handers.

I found both of them pretty awkward to pick up, the Naos especially.

Megasabin
Sep 9, 2003

I get half!!
Is there a good replacement for the Logitech G9x yet or do I still need to pay 100+ dollars whenever I need a replacement

pr0zac
Jan 18, 2004

~*lukecagefan69*~


Pillbug

Megasabin posted:

Is there a good replacement for the Logitech G9x yet or do I still need to pay 100+ dollars whenever I need a replacement

The g302/303 is probably the closest assuming you're looking for something small for finger grip.

Killsion
Feb 16, 2011

Templars Rock.

SymmetryrtemmyS posted:

It's a bit larger than you might be imagining. My wrist rests on the curved bit. Unlike smaller trackballs, you don't grip this one at all.

I do have a scroll wheel solution, though. It's an auto hotkey script I dug up. I can post it later tonight. The way it works is you hold any button and move the cursor up or down, and it acts like a scroll wheel.

I think I tried using an auto hotkey script like that once but I had a lot of trouble getting it to work, I'd appreciate posting a guide of sorts to get it working though certainly. I'm just worried because I have no means of trying the CST out without pulling the trigger, and it's so drat expensive too.

SymmetryrtemmyS
Jul 13, 2013

I got super tired of seeing your avatar throwing those fuckin' glasses around in the astrology thread so I fixed it to a .jpg

Killsion posted:

I think I tried using an auto hotkey script like that once but I had a lot of trouble getting it to work, I'd appreciate posting a guide of sorts to get it working though certainly. I'm just worried because I have no means of trying the CST out without pulling the trigger, and it's so drat expensive too.

Sure, I'll post that script tonight. Just install AHK and any .ahk files will run like an exe file.

For what it's worth, the CST is on Massdrop right now. It's still not cheap, but it saves you a bit of money. Shipping time is pretty long, though. They make each trackball to order.

Woolie Wool
Jun 2, 2006


Shaocaholica posted:

Is there a wireless mouse that's similar in shape to the classic microsoft optical mouse?



Steelseries Sensei Wireless.

But its MSRP is $160. :shepspends:

SymmetryrtemmyS
Jul 13, 2013

I got super tired of seeing your avatar throwing those fuckin' glasses around in the astrology thread so I fixed it to a .jpg

Killsion posted:

I think I tried using an auto hotkey script like that once but I had a lot of trouble getting it to work, I'd appreciate posting a guide of sorts to get it working though certainly. I'm just worried because I have no means of trying the CST out without pulling the trigger, and it's so drat expensive too.

http://pastebin.com/zuc1380B

Copy that into an .AHK file, install AutoHotKey, and run it. It's bound to right mouse button, but if you look up AHK key codes, you can set that to any keypress. Just find and replace the entire file from RButton to whatever.

Shaocaholica
Oct 29, 2002

Fig. 5E

Woolie Wool posted:

Steelseries Sensei Wireless.

But its MSRP is $160. :shepspends:

Thanks!!! Money I got. Get ready to change the thread title.

Woolie Wool
Jun 2, 2006


You're...you're actually going to buy that thing, aren't you? :negative:

I mean they did a pretty good job cloning the Intellimouse Explorer's ergonomics with the Sensei but the price they ask for the wireless version is outrageous.

Shaocaholica
Oct 29, 2002

Fig. 5E

Woolie Wool posted:

You're...you're actually going to buy that thing, aren't you? :negative:

I mean they did a pretty good job cloning the Intellimouse Explorer's ergonomics with the Sensei but the price they ask for the wireless version is outrageous.

I found a few on ebay for $100.

Boris Galerkin
Dec 17, 2011

I don't understand why I can't harass people online. Seriously, somebody please explain why I shouldn't be allowed to stalk others on social media!
Just a quick update re: Logitech support. I just called the number that someone posted here and told them my mouse was double clicking and when I bought it. They just asked me a few troubleshooting questions (did you try plugging it into a different computer?) and then asked me to email them an order receipt. I sent it while still on the line and in a couple days they confirmed shipping of a new mouse and I got it the following week.

Seems pretty solid.

NihilCredo
Jun 6, 2011

iram omni possibili modo preme:
plus una illa te diffamabit, quam multæ virtutes commendabunt

Enjoy your viral marketing, Goo:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dap5lEuS5uM

brb buying compressed air

Goo
Aug 30, 2002

Hello Drippy

NihilCredo posted:

Enjoy your viral marketing, Goo:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dap5lEuS5uM

brb buying compressed air

Yeah it's fun. We tried it here and it sounds just like the video - It's not just a side effect of recording or whatever.

wolrah
May 8, 2006
what?

NihilCredo posted:

brb buying compressed air

Doing this with a G700S doesn't sound nearly as cool :(

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A13zNYxPOdM

Got to be those larger nubs on the wheel, I imagine the internals of the wheel mech are pretty similar.

I wonder how fast the wheel will actually track. It skipped around like hell when I put it over something scrollable at full speed, but I have no idea how one would actually measure that.

sports
Sep 1, 2012

Shaocaholica posted:

Is there a wireless mouse that's similar in shape to the classic microsoft optical mouse?



Steelseries Rival is $60 and is the largest mouse they've offered in a while. It's a facsimile of the Intellimouse 3.1 Explorer.

Aquila
Jan 24, 2003

El Scotch posted:

Mouse report: I grabbed a Mionix Avior 7000 on sale to test it out.

It has great buttons, a great sensor, the software is pretty good and I love the coating they have on the mouse.

Unfortunately I just don't find the shape as comfortable and as usable in fps's for me as my current FK1. I find the back end of the mouse too high and wide to pick up and toss around compared to the FK1.

If you can try the Avior 7000 I highly recommend giving it a go, because it's great hardware. It's ultimately a question of individual comfort though.

(related: wts barely used Avoir)

Oh hey, as a lefty I've been looking to try the Avoir.

Shaocaholica
Oct 29, 2002

Fig. 5E

Shaocaholica posted:

I found a few on ebay for $100.

Got one (Steelseries Sensei Wireless) for $80 used on ebay. Hope its exactly like the Intellimouse!

Gwyrgyn Blood
Dec 17, 2002

EVGA x5 is $20 after rebate from Fry's currently, for anyone who was looking at one of those: http://www.frys.com/product/8405998

Shaocaholica
Oct 29, 2002

Fig. 5E
Well I like the MS mice so much I ended up buying almost one of every model of steelseries. Decently cheap if you hunt around on ebay.

So are those 'Tiger Gaming' mouse feet any good(compared to the factory feet and other aftermarket feet)? The ones from China that come up in all my ebay searches for mice?

Shaocaholica
Oct 29, 2002

Fig. 5E
Who the gently caress thought it would be a good idea to map, by default, history-back and history-forward into side mouse buttons? Because the risk-utility ratio of that mapping is just super.

latinotwink1997
Jan 2, 2008

Taste my Ball of Hope, foul dragon!


Shaocaholica posted:

Who the gently caress thought it would be a good idea to map, by default, history-back and history-forward into side mouse buttons? Because the risk-utility ratio of that mapping is just super.

I'm honestly confused on your sentiments. Are you saying it's a bad idea? And if so why?

Josh Lyman
May 24, 2009


Shaocaholica posted:

Who the gently caress thought it would be a good idea to map, by default, history-back and history-forward into side mouse buttons? Because the risk-utility ratio of that mapping is just super.
I use back ALL the time, in both browsers and file explorer.

Shaocaholica
Oct 29, 2002

Fig. 5E

I Own Soulz posted:

I'm honestly confused on your sentiments. Are you saying it's a bad idea? And if so why?

Some mice or a lot of mice have really sensitive side buttons that can easily be bumped when either moving the mouse or grasping it after typing. Hitting back with an uncommitted form in a browser is pretty lovely. And you have to do those actions all the time. Take hand off mouse to type. When done typing, grasp the mouse again to move the cursor to some commit button. When grasping for your mouse there is a significant likelihood that you could grasp it incorrectly and hit the back button losing all your typing. This can be worse when you're at a computer that's not yours and with an unfamiliar mouse.

SymmetryrtemmyS
Jul 13, 2013

I got super tired of seeing your avatar throwing those fuckin' glasses around in the astrology thread so I fixed it to a .jpg

Shaocaholica posted:

Some mice or a lot of mice have really sensitive side buttons that can easily be bumped when either moving the mouse or grasping it after typing. Hitting back with an uncommitted form in a browser is pretty lovely. And you have to do those actions all the time. Take hand off mouse to type. When done typing, grasp the mouse again to move the cursor to some commit button. When grasping for your mouse there is a significant likelihood that you could grasp it incorrectly and hit the back button losing all your typing. This can be worse when you're at a computer that's not yours and with an unfamiliar mouse.

I've never personally used a mouse with buttons so sensitive that I frequently accidentally hit them, but if you have or regularly use one, Lazarus Form Recovery will solve this problem: Firefox / Chrome

Aphrodite
Jun 27, 2006

drat man stop looking at porn at work.

Cinara
Jul 15, 2007
Wow, I cannot say I have heard anyone complain about back/forward being bound to side buttons before. I consider it a requirement a mouse have side buttons and thought having back bound there was the best thing ever when I got my first Intellimouse. I guess if they were so sensitive the lightest touch would trigger them, but I have never seen a mouse like that.

kefkafloyd
Jun 8, 2006

What really knocked me out
Was her cheap sunglasses
It's been a default behavior since, what, 2001 when Microsoft introduced the first Optical Intellimouse (and Explorer)?

Shaocaholica
Oct 29, 2002

Fig. 5E

kefkafloyd posted:

It's been a default behavior since, what, 2001 when Microsoft introduced the first Optical Intellimouse (and Explorer)?

And its kinda been a pain since then. Yeah you can re-bind them but only after a bit of frustration and you can't do poo poo on a system that's not yours. I personally don't use the back action enough to warrant binding it to my mouse. Honestly I feel like they just bound it because there was a button there. I use left, right and middle click. Any more actions on my mouse are too clunky and risky since those would require my 'weak' fingers. I'd rather just use the KB at that point. Maybe if I was a hardcore gamer but those days are behind me.

wolrah
May 8, 2006
what?

Cinara posted:

Wow, I cannot say I have heard anyone complain about back/forward being bound to side buttons before. I consider it a requirement a mouse have side buttons and thought having back bound there was the best thing ever when I got my first Intellimouse. I guess if they were so sensitive the lightest touch would trigger them, but I have never seen a mouse like that.

Likewise. Back and forward, looking at you G5 v1... buttons are mandatory for me. I use them all the time in browsers and other similar apps to the point that I get annoyed if an app that has back/forward as concepts in its UI doesn't support them. They're also great for secondary combat functions in games, I usually end up with grenades on the forward button and melee on back.

Chillyrabbit
Oct 24, 2012

The only sword wielding rabbit on the internet



Ultra Carp

Cinara posted:

Wow, I cannot say I have heard anyone complain about back/forward being bound to side buttons before. I consider it a requirement a mouse have side buttons and thought having back bound there was the best thing ever when I got my first Intellimouse. I guess if they were so sensitive the lightest touch would trigger them, but I have never seen a mouse like that.


I'll admit I'm not a fan of that behavior, sometimes I squeeze a little oddly and accidentally press it and it annoys me, luckily my new snazzy G302 is a right handed mouse, and doesn't make me want to kill my hand like the Zowie ECA-2. Right now I'm working on fixing my grip so I don't use 2 fingers on the left click like some sort of barbarian.

BurnBlackJay
May 31, 2011

by Lowtax
Hi I wanna spend like 20-30 great british pound sterling max on a decent mouse this is the first time I've ever not had a 2 quid job from asda I wanna use it for video games and general use and I'd prefer wired because wireless seems a bit shonky and I don't really understand it and it'll probably increase the price I'd imagine any suggestions?

Woolie Wool
Jun 2, 2006


For a future second computer that will mostly be for multimedia but also some light gaming/modding, how good is the E-3lue Cobra if anyone has used it? It looks a lot like the Razer Diamondback, which is still the best mouse I've ever used and if it's a quality mouse I'd buy it in a heartbeat for that project.

Vag Assault Weapon
Aug 12, 2014

I got a Logitech MX Master to replace a 5 year old Performance Mouse MX and it's better in every way for me. Had to uninstall Setpoint because it didn't auto detect it but they have some new kind of logitech driver that's much less bloated than setpoint.

http://www.logitech.com/en-us/product/mx-master?crid=7&WT.ac=HPB1-CTA3-mxmaster

If I'm using their website right having this mouse also makes me a qualified architect so now I have a second career in the bag

Woolie Wool
Jun 2, 2006


BurnBlackJay posted:

Hi I wanna spend like 20-30 great british pound sterling max on a decent mouse this is the first time I've ever not had a 2 quid job from asda I wanna use it for video games and general use and I'd prefer wired because wireless seems a bit shonky and I don't really understand it and it'll probably increase the price I'd imagine any suggestions?

The Razer Krait runs around 30 USD and is a good mouse with a flawless sensor if you have small hands or a fingertip grip. It was too small for me though.

Vag Assault Weapon
Aug 12, 2014

Okay this switch from setpoint to "Logitech Options" for MX Master is pretty annoying. The default for the thumb button with Setpoint and my old Performance MX was this nice preview of all my open windows where I could shuffle them around, I don't know what it was even called but I can't seem to find its equivalent in Logitech Options, its default for the thumb button is just your standard Vista/7 alt+tab preview.

Any ideas?

Rexxed
May 1, 2010

Dis is amazing!
I gotta try dis!

Vag Assault Weapon posted:

Okay this switch from setpoint to "Logitech Options" for MX Master is pretty annoying. The default for the thumb button with Setpoint and my old Performance MX was this nice preview of all my open windows where I could shuffle them around, I don't know what it was even called but I can't seem to find its equivalent in Logitech Options, its default for the thumb button is just your standard Vista/7 alt+tab preview.

Any ideas?

Is it the 3d style windows key + tab combo that was added in Vista?

Vag Assault Weapon
Aug 12, 2014

No, it was basically like a TV's picture in picture where all the windows would fill up the screen at one time, made it super convenient for running multiple instances of video games and programs.

The button never did anything until I installed setpoint after every reformat so I don't think it was Windows related

Generic Monk
Oct 31, 2011

Vag Assault Weapon posted:

No, it was basically like a TV's picture in picture where all the windows would fill up the screen at one time, made it super convenient for running multiple instances of video games and programs.

The button never did anything until I installed setpoint after every reformat so I don't think it was Windows related

You mean like Expose in OS X? IDK how you can get whatever custom logitech implementation of that back but there are windows clones that people seem to like: http://www.betterdesktoptool.com

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Wasabi the J
Jan 23, 2008

MOM WAS RIGHT

Vag Assault Weapon posted:

No, it was basically like a TV's picture in picture where all the windows would fill up the screen at one time, made it super convenient for running multiple instances of video games and programs.

The button never did anything until I installed setpoint after every reformat so I don't think it was Windows related



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