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Kanine posted:
From one of the comments to that entry/ 17 MG-34s for anti air
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Imagine the noise.
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# ? May 10, 2015 22:30 |
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Fangz posted:Imagine the noise. DAKKA DAKKA DAKKA DAKKA DAKKA DAKKA DAKKA DAKKA DAKKA DAKKA DAKKA DAKKA DAKKA DAKKA DAKKA
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# ? May 10, 2015 22:32 |
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Fangz posted:Imagine the noise. Imagine reloading it after the operator just barely looked at the trigger.
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# ? May 10, 2015 22:37 |
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Meanwhile, in the Thirty Years' War, things go on much as they usually do:quote:Although my father in law, who was near to death, was laid on a bed and everyone saw how bloody and battered he was, he was nevertheless dragged here and there. One of the soldiers said to his comrade: Go and make the peasant (he meant my father in law) completely dead. He went, came back quickly, and had my father in law's pants and jacket in his arms and said to my wife: Your father's done. HEY GUNS fucked around with this message at 02:24 on May 11, 2015 |
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Ask Us About Military History: Go and make the peasant completely dead.
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HEY GAL posted:I brought this up to my advisor and he said that peasants are really duplicitous in this period, as are courtiers. So it's not the 17th century, it's the subculture. Are peasants just lying shits to soldiers because they're trying to protect their stuff, or even amongst themselves? It kind of amuses me how peasants get such a bad rap in general.
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Pornographic Memory posted:Are peasants just lying shits to soldiers because they're trying to protect their stuff, or even amongst themselves? It kind of amuses me how peasants get such a bad rap in general.
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HEY GAL posted:Among themselves. I imagine it's the usual small town bullshit, but now I'm wondering why soldiers are so terrible at it. Maybe it's because they're 100% surrounded by people willing to enforce social norms with death at all times?
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Bacarruda posted:
Still one of the batshit craziest assignments of World War II.
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Eej posted:From one of the comments to that entry/ Holy loving poo poo. This is the greatest picture ever.
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# ? May 11, 2015 03:03 |
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Ahaha why is this a thing
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Saint Celestine posted:Holy loving poo poo. This is the greatest picture ever. Incorrect, sir. Ear-noculars used for hearing distant aircraft in World War One.
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Epitaph for Mariana Gryphia, The Poet's Brother Paul's Little Daughter Born on the run / slain by sword and fire / Fair smothered in smoke / my mother's bitter collateral / My father's greatest fear / dragged into the light / As the wrathful flames devoured my homeland. I looked upon this world and left it quickly: Because all the anguish of this world in one day met me. If you count the days, I disappeared when I was young / Very old though, if you think about / what fear I felt. Grabschrifft Marianae Gryphiae seines Brudern Pauli Töchterlein Gebohren in der Flucht / umbringt mit Schwerd und Brand / Schir in dem Rauch erstückt / der Mutter herbes Pfand / Des Vatern höchste Furcht / die an das Licht gedrungen / Als die ergrimmte Glut mein Vaterland verschlungen. Ich habe dise Welt beschawt und bald gesegnet: Weil mir auff einen Tag all Angst der Welt begegnet. Wo ihr die Tage zehlt; so bin ich jung verschwunden / Sehr alt; wofern ihr schätzt / was ich für Angst empfunden. Andreas Gryphius, 1637 (Mariana was born when her mother was fleeing Freystadt, which burnt to the ground the day before. She died four weeks later.) HEY GUNS fucked around with this message at 20:32 on May 11, 2015 |
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Fangz posted:If you are into WWII and also guns, Rock Paper Shotgun has a promo code to unlock a bunch of WWII guns on World of Guns. Did I mention guns? Guns. I downloaded that and got the pack. Things I have learned: * The Sten Gun is wonderful for when you want to completely memorize the schematics of a gun. I can fully disassemble it from memory in a little over 2 minutes in the game because of how few parts it has. * The P38 actually has 10 more parts than the Luger. Its relative simplicity comes from replacing the godawful toggle lock (I pity anyone fixing one) with a regular slide and tilting locking block. Most of the extra components come from small things, like the safety having a plunger and spring instead of just a little plate and the double-action mechanism in the hammer (three pins, a lever, and a spring). * The Russians took a lot from prior weapons for what replaced them. The AK still has noticeable elements of the PPSh-41, SKS, and DP-27. * German overengineering is not just a myth. * Unit armorers who were given an MG 34 to fix likely let out a long, sustained scream upon seeing it. chitoryu12 fucked around with this message at 05:29 on May 11, 2015 |
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Chamale posted:Incorrect, sir. Japanese War Tuba.
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# ? May 11, 2015 06:55 |
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Countermeasure devised.
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Saint Celestine posted:Holy loving poo poo. This is the greatest picture ever.
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Pornographic Memory posted:Are peasants just lying shits to soldiers because they're trying to protect their stuff, or even amongst themselves? It kind of amuses me how peasants get such a bad rap in general. Ever see the Seven Samurai?
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chitoryu12 posted:I downloaded that and got the pack. Things I have learned: [Virtual gun chat] I have one of the starter packs and I've worked my way up the mp5. So many tiny springs just waiting to break, so many. The m16a1 really takes the cake though, 156 parts and you have to remove the foregrip to field strip it. [/virtual gun chat]
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100 Years Ago What's that, you say? A Western empire is invading Iraq and suffering badly from mission creep? That's unpossible! Yes, General Nixon is setting in motion plans to advance yet further up the Tigris (and eventually to Baghdad), ignoring the inconvenient lack of any approval for this course of action from anyone. Second Artois continues unabated, but for once the Brains Trust is going to pause and reconsider instead of just throwing men at the brick wall. The Friendly Feldwebel arrives at Jaslo on the Eastern Front (and Major Eger is highly dissatisfied with the sleeping arrangement), and Herbert Sulzbach has got home for a couple of days' leave. (Also, today's advert concerns itself with foreigners. I'm sorry.)
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Klaus88 posted:I have one of the starter packs and I've worked my way up the mp5. So many tiny springs just waiting to break, so many. H&K firearms are 50% steel, 25% plastic, and 25% Kraut Space Magic. An accurate representation of the first time I field stripped my VP9:
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the Vågsø raid described earlier is very prominent in the Norwegian national mythos of the war, because it was the first major success of the Milorg, the Norwegian "official" militant resistance Milorg was directed by the London government, and this particular group consisted of Norwegian exiles organised in the so-called Kompani Linge, named after their commander, one Martin Linge, who was one of the casualties of this raid Linge was originally a (rather mediocre) stage actor who fled the German occupation and basically built Milorg off his own initiative and organisational drive, and he became a huge martyr figure for the Norwegian resistance. after the war, he and the rest of Milorg were lionised at the expense of the other two resistance groups, Saborg, a communist-dominated terrorist group, and Sivorg, the civilian passive-resistance group which was, if not dominated by, then significantly influenced by the communists saborg is getting theirs these days, having recently got a monument in Oslo approved, though not without its controversy (the controversy is that the aesthetic is somewhat, uh, unsubtle): http://www.osloby.no/nyheter/Osvald-monumentet-skal-avdukes-1-mai-7997403.html
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The only people offended by that monument might be a little suspect. I for one, think it is quite fitting and awesome.
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SeanBeansShako posted:The only people offended by that monument might be a little suspect. I for one, think it is quite fitting and awesome. It is so gaudy and talentless that only a literal Hitler can like it.
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Nenonen posted:It is so gaudy and talentless that only a literal Hitler can like it. I'm the gayest black Hitler then.
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Yeah, it looks like a second-grade political cartoon. Sorry.
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Could be improved by the addition of a bare-chested representative of the brave Workers wielding the hammer. Also seems kinda small, make it ten times the size please.
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And 'DEBT'.
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# ? May 11, 2015 16:13 |
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I think the callback to cold war brutalism is intentional, as a sort of recognition of why on earth this enormously important part of the resistance didn't got a monument much sooner. i think it's best seen as a piece of political art, to be honest, and in that context i think it works really well
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Smashing Nazi stuff also quite frankly rules. On a more serious note, I am super pumped for the next edition of Bacarruda presents special forces of WW2!
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Trin Tragula posted:100 Years Ago quote:Lunch on own rations and tea. Lead ration supplied by Turks. I like how Kenneth Best writes.
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V. Illych L. posted:(the controversy is that the aesthetic is somewhat, uh, unsubtle): Think on the bright side - future archaeologists combing through the ruins of Norway should have no trouble at all figuring out what exactly the symbolism meant, which should cut down on the future squabbling over the meaning of the statute by, like at least 30%. (For that matter, imagine what a headache most modern art is going to be to future archaeologists.)
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midnightclimax posted:Yeah, it looks like a second-grade political cartoon. Sorry. Funnily enough, "a thing happened" is literally the point of a memorial.
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Hey errybody, So I just finished Killer Angels by Michael Shaara (Civil War Novel - focused on battle of Gettysburg and had some questions. Was there really no other plausible option for Lee but to attack the center as the last ditch effort of the Gettysburg Battle? Apparently Longstreet was strongly against an assault in the middle and heavily favored defensive warfare. Was it really too late to back up to a better position and let the Union make an attack? Or would the Union even attack at all because of General Meade's passiveness at the time. Thanks for any insight. A really absorbing book that taught me a lot about that battle but left me with many Q's!
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I was learning about a deceased relative's experiences (via a history expert Uncle who spoke to him) during World War II as a U.S. Army infantryman. The relative had been in the Battle of the Bulge and post-war was an MP in the massive German POW camps in France. The relative had two sets of stories he would tell, light-hearted and dark-hearted. An example of a light-hearted story was that during a German artillery bombardment they were taking cover behind a massive piles of produce on a farm. A close shell impact led a U.S. soldier to be covered in red goo, and he briefly panicked before realizing it was pumpkin (or something) guts. A less comical story was near the very end of the war when they had to fight an SS detachment on a (different) farm. The US troops weren't happy as the war was obviously over, but they had a hard fight before managing to capture the SS troops. My relative's lieutenant spoke to one of the SS officers and was baffled that the man spoke English with an American accent. Apparently the SS officer had spent years in Chicago before the war. The U.S. officer then took the SS officer behind a barn and shot him, then said something about him not going back to Chicago anymore. My relative also reported that a major priority in the POW camps for Germans was sorting the troops out between regular army and SS, which could be distinguished because of their tattoos with the lightning bolts. I had some follow up questions I hoped the experts in this thread could answer: 1. I understand that Russian or Polish soldiers who captured SS troops would have obvious reasons to shoot them immediately. But by 1945, would American troops also have had the same level of enmity? Were field executions common by US troops who caught them? 2. Post-war, what was the punishment for SS troops who were taken prisoner by the Western allies? Would the regular German army have any reason to help conceal them, or did they hate them too?
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V. Illych L. posted:the Vågsø raid described earlier is very prominent in the Norwegian national mythos of the war, because it was the first major success of the Milorg, the Norwegian "official" militant resistance Norwegian special operations are hella interesting. The long coast of Norway and its relatively proximity to Commando bases in Scotland made it a really tempting target and it saw quite a lot of raiding. At some point, I'll try to discuss No. 5 (Norwegian) Troop of No. 10 (Inter-Allied Commando) and the various raids along the Norwegian coast. Knut Haukelid's escapades will also get a mention. SeanBeansShako posted:On a more serious note, I am super pumped for the next edition of Bacarruda presents special forces of WW2! haha I've suddenly got a lot to live up to.
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Bacarruda posted:-The Lysanders I'm pretty excited for this, the Lysander is one of my favorite planes but I really don't know much about how it was actually used operationally. The Lysander's takeoff and landing runs were comically short; under ideal conditions (light load, stiff headwind) it could take off in less than 100 yards, which hasn't really been bettered by anything other than ultralights and VTOL aircraft. Allegedly an F8F with minimal fuel and no external stores could get off the ground in ~250 feet, which I suppose is plausible, but that was with four times the horsepower.
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esn2500 posted:Hey errybody, I think the point here is that Lee needed a victory, given the political and strategic situation.
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Fangz posted:I think the point here is that Lee needed a victory, given the political and strategic situation. I understand that he felt it was the only course of action to take, as he felt a retreat to a different position was too late to pull off. So even if they got into a better position, the Union wouldn't risk pursuing them because they had the more strategic position of being in Gettysburg, correct?
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