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ili
Jul 26, 2003


I can't believe Peachey is getting off so lightly. Deliberately dumping a bloke on his head well after the whistle is pretty bad. I mean, everyone knows the judiciary is shite but this is poor even by their very low standards.

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Jono C
Mar 28, 2007

Adam is a wonderful example of how a player should go about his business in the NRL

Smorgasbord posted:

edit: there we go, 3-4 weeks depending on plea while Tyrone Peachey's deliberate, after the whistle, lift and drop on the head gets 1-2 weeks.

That's what pisses me off. Peachey's act was intentional and dirty and deserves much more than Hurrell.

Ewar Woowar
Feb 25, 2007

Kiwi player getting a long suspension while an Australian gets a lighter sentence for a far worse indiscretion...what a surprise.

I hate to be that guy but this poo poo happens so much.

bowmore
Oct 6, 2008



Lipstick Apathy

Ewar Woowar posted:

Kiwi player getting a long suspension while an Australian gets a lighter sentence for a far worse indiscretion...what a surprise.

I hate to be that guy but this poo poo happens so much.
it doesn't

they are being harsh because of the injury, Kade Snowden got 9 weeks because he broke someones jaw doing a deflection shoulder charge while Frank Pritchard got 2 weeks after a shoulder charge that knocked someone out

iajanus
Aug 17, 2004

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Rabbitohs fans not doing a lot to shake that "bandwagon" tag - won a grand final, lost three games in a row and now the burrow is empty. Not much glory there, eh?

Mills
Jun 13, 2003

It's a Monday night. Settle down.

Smorgasbord
Jun 18, 2004

Our review identified changes needed to be made and, in Stephen, we have a coach who has a reputation for demanding the highest standards.

bowmore posted:

it doesn't

they are being harsh because of the injury, Kade Snowden got 9 weeks because he broke someones jaw doing a deflection shoulder charge while Frank Pritchard got 2 weeks after a shoulder charge that knocked someone out

It's the most ridiculously reactionary organisation out there, you could smell it coming a mile away. Seems like all the likes of Rothfield or Gould have to is write an article/have a whinge on tv and the various arms of the NRL will jump to attention no matter how dumb the stance of the day is.

iajanus
Aug 17, 2004

NUMBER 1 QUEENSLAND SUPPORTER
MAROONS 2023 STATE OF ORIGIN CHAMPIONS FOR LIFE



Mills posted:

It's a Monday night. Settle down.

You're right, why would you go out on a weekday to watch a team play as badly as the rabbitohs are at the moment? Real fans stay at home and don't bother to support their teams when they haven't been recently successful.

Real fans only go to games when their team looks like they're on track to win the grand final!

Mills
Jun 13, 2003

I'm bored enough to reply in a literal sense but there's nothing you just wrote that is worth genuinely addressing. :shrug:

iajanus
Aug 17, 2004

NUMBER 1 QUEENSLAND SUPPORTER
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Mills posted:

I'm bored enough to reply in a literal sense but there's nothing you just wrote that is worth genuinely addressing. :shrug:

So you put in as much effort as standard 'hardcore' Souths fans put into supporting their club when they're not looking indestructible?

Mills
Jun 13, 2003

I put more effort into my AusPol trolls.

iajanus
Aug 17, 2004

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Mills posted:

I put more effort into my AusPol trolls.

Trolling implies I'm not serious about my strident dislike for bandwagon fans hth

Smorgasbord
Jun 18, 2004

Our review identified changes needed to be made and, in Stephen, we have a coach who has a reputation for demanding the highest standards.
7/8 get hosed Newcastle and Manly.

bowmore
Oct 6, 2008



Lipstick Apathy
Souths only won because of that bad call where Dragons should have got a repeat set

Mills
Jun 13, 2003

Lol

Smorgasbord
Jun 18, 2004

Our review identified changes needed to be made and, in Stephen, we have a coach who has a reputation for demanding the highest standards.
Crowd support got them home in the end.

edit: Matty Johns Show is funny tonight

Smorgasbord fucked around with this message at 12:04 on May 11, 2015

Butt Wizard
Nov 3, 2005

It was a pornography store. I was buying pornography.

bowmore posted:

it doesn't

they are being harsh because of the injury, Kade Snowden got 9 weeks because he broke someones jaw doing a deflection shoulder charge while Frank Pritchard got 2 weeks after a shoulder charge that knocked someone out

It doesn't happen as often as it used to, but it does happen. It used to be fairly common for Kiwis to get harsher outcomes at the judiciary in the lead-up to a Test.

It's not helped when the judiciary sees someone dumping a player on his head and only getting a handful of weeks is dumb especially considering all the faux soul-searching that was swirling around league when McKinnon got injured. At some point it's going to make other people feel like they're being singled out, especially if their team has a good reason to have a historical chip on their shoulder.

The reality now though is that is that sporting judiciaries are just inept in every code. Super Rugby has been plagued by it this year.

Thinking
Jan 22, 2009

See I always thought the way they treated McLean for the McKinnon tackle was disgraceful and an inconsistent overreaction biased towards the injury to the player, but now I've seen on his wikipedia page he is actually of Maori descent it makes a lot more sense in the overall context of the systemic Rugby League conspiracy against the nation of New Zealand

bowmore
Oct 6, 2008



Lipstick Apathy

cpaf posted:

See I always thought the way they treated McLean for the McKinnon tackle was disgraceful and an inconsistent overreaction biased towards the injury to the player, but now I've seen on his wikipedia page he is actually of Maori descent it makes a lot more sense in the overall context of the systemic Rugby League conspiracy against the nation of New Zealand
Seven weeks for a speer tackle is too harsh?

iajanus
Aug 17, 2004

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bowmore posted:

Seven weeks for a speer tackle is too harsh?

It's not like it killed him, it just paralysed him. Get some perspective :v:

bowmore
Oct 6, 2008



Lipstick Apathy
the tackle was worth seven weeks even if he didn't get injured, they pinned his arms to his side and drove his head into the ground

or is it a kiwi conspiracy :tinfoil:

Troy Queef
Jan 12, 2013




A few updates on the outpouring of support for Danny Jones, the Keighley player that collapsed and died during a game a few weeks ago:

--Keighley had their first home match since the tragedy this weekend, and on the back of a big online campaign for fans of other clubs to come out and support his family they drew 4,066 to the game (their average crowd is about 700, if that provides perspective)
--The club said they will honor the remainder of his contract with the proceeds going into a trust fund for his twin children
--A donation page has already hit £120,000 (the club chairman says he wants it to hit £1 mil before the end of the season), plus a separate bucket collection at the match raised £10,000. If you want to give, do it here: https://www.justgiving.com/dannyjones29/

Thinking
Jan 22, 2009

bowmore posted:

Seven weeks for a speer tackle is too harsh?

No, but if you compare it to the Peachey tackle it's pretty clear intent and angle are disregarded in punishment in favour of any sustained injury by the judiciary. Peachey could have easily injured Blair as badly as McKinnon and he only gets two weeks because? Because he didn't.

e; for clarity I'm not complaining about the extent of punishments (they should be long as hell) but rather the consistency

Thinking fucked around with this message at 22:46 on May 12, 2015

bowmore
Oct 6, 2008



Lipstick Apathy
I got bored, here is my Blues team for round 1

1. Lord B. Dugan
2. Alex Johnston
3. Michael Jennings
4. Josh Morris
5. Akuila Uate
6. Blake Austin
7. Mitchell Pierce
8. James Tamou
9. Robbie Farah
10. Andrew Fifita
11. Boyd Cordner
12. Beau Scott
13. Trent Merrin

14. Aaron Woods
15. Ryan Hoffman
16. Tariq Sims
17. David Klemmer

on the computer
Jan 4, 2012

bowmore posted:

I got bored, here is my Blues team for round 1

Good team but I would replace Merrin with Gallen if he's fit, and Merrin can take Klemmer's bench spot

bowmore
Oct 6, 2008



Lipstick Apathy
Yeah, team made on the assumption Gal is out like expected

on the computer
Jan 4, 2012

Actually, you'd omit Luke Lewis? He usually performs at state level, is versatile and has been in good form for the Sharks. I would place him on the bench over Tariq Sims, or he could even take Cordner's spot

iajanus
Aug 17, 2004

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Not a bad team, but I'd start with Woods since I think he'd lose a lot of effectiveness on the bench.

bowmore
Oct 6, 2008



Lipstick Apathy

iajanus posted:

Not a bad team, but I'd start with Woods since I think he'd lose a lot of effectiveness on the bench.
yeah, swap Woods and Fifita

Burn Down Canberra
Oct 27, 2005

GAME PLANS? We don't need no stinking game plans.

:cry: :cry: :cry:
Paul Vaughan is better than all those props besides woods. He is the only raider that should be near origin tbh. Maybe Austin on the bench.

iajanus
Aug 17, 2004

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Austin is one of those players who is tearing it up at club level but it's a complete mystery how he'd go in the big games. It's not like Queensland would be like the Titans last week and just fall for his dummies over and over letting him stroll straight through.

Although it'd be very nice if they did.

BlindSite
Feb 8, 2009

cpaf posted:

No, but if you compare it to the Peachey tackle it's pretty clear intent and angle are disregarded in punishment in favour of any sustained injury by the judiciary. Peachey could have easily injured Blair as badly as McKinnon and he only gets two weeks because? Because he didn't.

e; for clarity I'm not complaining about the extent of punishments (they should be long as hell) but rather the consistency

imo They should institute a blanket ban for lifting past the horizontal 6 weeks, 10 weeks if it's your second offense. At the moment players don't seem to give a gently caress. I garuntee you this origin period we'll see it happen again. If its a QLDer doing the lifting it'll be 4-6 weeks at a minimum if its a NSW player it'll be a week if at all.

Lifting and high shots should be like Rugby, an instant 10 minute sin bin. There's no reason not to send players off for it now days, it's almost as if the refs have been told not to send anyone off unless they punch someone. Peachey should have been gone instantly and should be out for a month.


bowmore posted:

I got bored, here is my Blues team for round 1

1. Lord B. Dugan
2. Alex Johnston
3. Michael Jennings
4. Josh Morris
5. Akuila Uate
6. Blake Austin
7. Mitchell Pierce
8. James Tamou
9. Robbie Farah
10. Andrew Fifita
11. Boyd Cordner
12. Beau Scott
13. Trent Merrin

14. Aaron Woods
15. Ryan Hoffman
16. Tariq Sims
17. David Klemmer


My guess for the Qld Team:

1. Billy Slater (should probably be Inglis but it's stronger as a unit with them both out there
2. Darius Boyd (i'd have Gaiguy here instead - but I think it'll be boyd)
3. Greg Inglis
4. Hodges
5. Chambers
6. Thurston
7. Cronk
8. Matt Scott
9. Cameron Smith
10. Nate Myles
11. Sam Thaiday
12. Gavin Cooper
13. Corey Parker

14. Josh McGuire
15. Aiden Guerra
16. Cherry-Evans (on form should probably be Ben Hunt)
17. Matt Gillet



Edit, who does everyone like out of Cowboys / broncos and Roosters / Dogs?

bowmore
Oct 6, 2008



Lipstick Apathy

iajanus posted:

Austin is one of those players who is tearing it up at club level but it's a complete mystery how he'd go in the big games. It's not like Queensland would be like the Titans last week and just fall for his dummies over and over letting him stroll straight through.

Although it'd be very nice if they did.
He killed it in the city/country game so combine that with his club form I think he's totally ready

Burn Down Canberra posted:

Paul Vaughan is better than all those props besides woods. He is the only raider that should be near origin tbh. Maybe Austin on the bench.
I don't really watch Canberra games, not sure I'd bother taking anything other than 4 forwards on the bench


BlindSite posted:

Lifting and high shots should be like Rugby, an instant 10 minute sin bin. There's no reason not to send players off for it now days, it's almost as if the refs have been told not to send anyone off unless they punch someone. Peachey should have been gone instantly and should be out for a month.

2. Darius Boyd (i'd have Gaiguy here instead - but I think it'll be boyd)
I agree with the instant sin bin, putting things on report doesn't benefit the team that got disadvantaged (apart from a penalty)

Gags doesn't have the defense for origin, but if you want someone else that's dangerous sure

Mills
Jun 13, 2003

Roosters, Broncos.

BlindSite
Feb 8, 2009

bowmore posted:

He killed it in the city/country game so combine that with his club form I think he's totally ready
I don't really watch Canberra games, not sure I'd bother taking anything other than 4 forwards on the bench
I agree with the instant sin bin, putting things on report doesn't benefit the team that got disadvantaged (apart from a penalty)

Gags doesn't have the defense for origin, but if you want someone else that's dangerous sure

Yeah the defense worries me, he's got a lot of missed tackles, but I worry a little bit about Qld's strike ability this year. Slater is still good, but unspectacular, inglis is unstoppable seeminly when he wants to be and Boyd is a bit of a wildcard.


The way I see origin this year is that Qld are the stronger team defensively and they'll be more capable of having a slow game and grinding out a win, but I see NSW as more capable of having that quick strike ability where they can go from being 4 points down to ahead by 8 points in two minutes. Maybe instead of DCE they could go with Segeyaro and give cam a 10 minute break at the end of the half and see if he can create something out of dummy half when teams are starting to tire.

Jono C
Mar 28, 2007

Adam is a wonderful example of how a player should go about his business in the NRL

BlindSite posted:

imo They should institute a blanket ban for lifting past the horizontal 6 weeks, 10 weeks if it's your second offense. At the moment players don't seem to give a gently caress. I garuntee you this origin period we'll see it happen again. If its a QLDer doing the lifting it'll be 4-6 weeks at a minimum if its a NSW player it'll be a week if at all.

Lifting and high shots should be like Rugby, an instant 10 minute sin bin. There's no reason not to send players off for it now days, it's almost as if the refs have been told not to send anyone off unless they punch someone. Peachey should have been gone instantly and should be out for a month.

Nice idea, but it probably goes the way of the shoulder charge, which is supposed to be an automatic three week suspension or something, but that never happens.

Jono C
Mar 28, 2007

Adam is a wonderful example of how a player should go about his business in the NRL
Why the gently caress are we checking blatant no tries?

Smorgasbord
Jun 18, 2004

Our review identified changes needed to be made and, in Stephen, we have a coach who has a reputation for demanding the highest standards.
http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/league/68590783/warriors-prop-suaia-matagi-inks-deal-with-the-sydney-roosters-after-seeking-early-release

Unless he broke the 'No Dickheads' policy behind the scenes I really don't get this - we can't be paying him much and look to have lost a valuable backup bigman capable of making an impact for nothing.

Jono C
Mar 28, 2007

Adam is a wonderful example of how a player should go about his business in the NRL

Smorgasbord posted:

http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/league/68590783/warriors-prop-suaia-matagi-inks-deal-with-the-sydney-roosters-after-seeking-early-release

Unless he broke the 'No Dickheads' policy behind the scenes I really don't get this - we can't be paying him much and look to have lost a valuable backup bigman capable of making an impact for nothing.

I'm a huge fan of his, but with Vete and Lisone coming into first grade quicker than expected he is a long way down the pecking order. Rapira, Ikahihifo and Lousi are all ahead of him. I think the club is just giving him a chance to earn a contract beyond this year, and I'm ok with that. I would have preferred him to have gone to a club that isn't the Cunts though.

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Smorgasbord
Jun 18, 2004

Our review identified changes needed to be made and, in Stephen, we have a coach who has a reputation for demanding the highest standards.
Loving how Tuivasa-Scheck is progressing

edit: hah that SKD try

edit2: Aw :(

Smorgasbord fucked around with this message at 12:31 on May 15, 2015

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