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Oh no, statists have taken over my town now I have clean water and reliable electricity.
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VitalSigns posted:Oh no, statists have taken over my town now I have clean water and reliable electricity. http://www.denverpost.com/news/ci_14303473 quote:COLORADO SPRINGS — This tax-averse city is about to learn what it looks and feels like when budget cuts slash services most Americans consider part of the urban fabric. Teabaggers 4evar!
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May 11, 2015 07:40
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FRINGE posted:Always remember one town was brave enough to steal freedom from the Violence of the Tax Loving Socialists. Haha, it sounds as though without the military installations, Colorado Springs would just implode.
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May 11, 2015 08:07
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Accretionist posted:Haha, it sounds as though without the military installations, Colorado Springs would just implode. They're more or less the reason the city exists in the first place. That article is actually from 2010, since then Colorado Springs has made a slight rebound as the US economy picked up. I think by 2013 they had turned the streetlights back on and restored police and fire funding, but they were still short on roads and parks. Lack of funding for roads is also a bigger deal there than people from other parts of the country might realize, because Colorado tends to experience unusual extremes of temperature relative to other states, which puts a lot of stress on the road surface. Colorado Springs wound up with hosed up dangerous roads as a result of defunding them for several years, and then had to scramble to find money for repairs when it became obvious that they couldn't let it slide any longer. But I think by far the best regional Tea Party story is the saga of the Arizona State Capitol in Phoenix. AZ was facing a huge short-term budget shortfall in 2009, so they sold off a bunch of buildings in their state capitol complex and then leased them back from the investors. They got an infusion of cash up front to plug the budget hole, while over time taxpayers would lose a tremendous amount of money on the deal due to the continuing lease payments.
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May 11, 2015 13:47
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FRINGE posted:Always remember one town was brave enough to steal freedom from the Violence of the Tax Loving Socialists. So basically this is what is going to happen to the state of Kansas. Thanks,
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May 11, 2015 14:48
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EvanSchenck posted:But I think by far the best regional Tea Party story is the saga of the Arizona State Capitol in Phoenix. AZ was facing a huge short-term budget shortfall in 2009, so they sold off a bunch of buildings in their state capitol complex and then leased them back from the investors. They got an infusion of cash up front to plug the budget hole, while over time taxpayers would lose a tremendous amount of money on the deal due to the continuing lease payments. Ahaha holy poo poo I just looked that up. They also got bent over when they asked to buy it back quote:The move will cost the state $105 million out of its current budget surplus. Brewer press aide Matthew Benson said the state has the cash. Sold it for $81 million, bought it back three years later for $105 million, paid outrageous lease payments in the interim. Republicans: fiscally conservative and good at business.
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May 11, 2015 14:56
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Securitized civic buildings are the hot new investment of the future.
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May 11, 2015 14:58
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I grew up in Colorado Springs and it is a microcosm of conservative city planning. The best part of the street lights being turned off is that it's not spread around the city. Most of the street lights they are turning off are in the south side of the city. Can you guess where the more poor side of the city resides? But, hey, we have the most fast food places per capita for a city in the USA! Oh yeah I forgot to mention that you would thing all the weed tax money would help with the budget issues? Nope, because El Paso county feels that it goes against their (white, conservative,evangelist) values and voted against it for the area. At least Garden of the Gods and Pikes Peak are super pretty. Dogeatdog fucked around with this message at 15:09 on May 11, 2015 |
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May 11, 2015 14:59
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In some  news, here's an article about cops not being giant assholes. http://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2015/05/gloucester-massachusetts-police-department-helping-not-arresting-drug-addicts/392873/ Here are some highlights: Cops' Facebook posted:Any addict who walks into the police station with the remainder of their drug equipment (needles, etc) or drugs and asks for help will NOT be charged. Instead we will walk them through the system toward detox and recovery. We will assign them an "angel" who will be their guide through the process. Not in hours or days, but on the spot. Interview with police chief posted:Beck: Can you tell me about your background and how you developed your thinking on this? I saw in the Facebook post that you used to be a narcotics detective.
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May 11, 2015 16:18
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moller posted:I was under the impression that the statist thing was usually referring to supporters of the federal government. Police departments are hyper-loving-local. Are you sure you don't mean authoritarians or something? Police departments are not as local as they probably ought to be, in fact. People who use the word "statist" are retards but there's a real, legitimate sense in which the blame for our incipient police state falls on federal crime initiatives and federal dollars buying a loving SWAT team for virtually any department with the balls to ask for one.
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May 11, 2015 17:06
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Would people read an effort post either in here or in its own thread about "officer-involved deaths" or whatever euphemism is popular today for a police officer killing someone?
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May 11, 2015 17:10
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May 11, 2015 17:36
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FRINGE posted:http://www.alternet.org/news-amp-politics/police-have-killed-400-people-2015-new-grieving-family-every-75-hours
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May 11, 2015 18:19
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Zimmerman has been Zimm'd by a gunshot wound, police report according to CNN. Our upstading honorary white citizen is again being oppressed by law enforcement.
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May 11, 2015 19:15
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Zimmerman could actually fight in a war and probably live, he's been in so many violent encounters.
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May 11, 2015 19:16
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It's only a matter of time until he murders someone else or gets himself killed loving with the wrong person. He literally got away with murder once already by "standing his ground" and now he's actively looking for a chance to do it again by forcing a violent confrontation every time someone yells at him or cuts him off in traffic.
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May 11, 2015 19:24
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Whatever happened to Zimmerman fighting DMX?
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May 11, 2015 19:43
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Vahakyla posted:Zimmerman has been Zimm'd by a gunshot wound, police report according to CNN. Our upstading honorary white citizen is again being oppressed by law enforcement. According to the latest news (10 minutes ago), it was part of an ongoing dispute with the other person. The wound was minor enough that he climbed into the ambulance himself and he's already out of the hospital; probably just grazed and cut him and he needed a band-aid. I happen to live about 4 or 5 miles from where all of the Trayvon Martin poo poo went down. Lake Mary Boulevard, where Zimmerman just had his little road rage incident, is about 3 miles from my house and a 10 minute drive from where I'm at work right now.
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May 11, 2015 19:55
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"George Zimmerman has minor injury after being 'shot in the face"quote:George Zimmerman, the man acquitted in 2013 of the shooting death of Trayvon Martin, has been shot in the face. Shame whoever shot him missed.
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May 11, 2015 20:11
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KABpZKYxOBI Fuckin lol, they had their identifiers on and everything.
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May 11, 2015 20:13
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Rhesus Pieces posted:It's only a matter of time until he murders someone else or gets himself killed loving with the wrong person. He literally got away with murder once already by "standing his ground" and now he's actively looking for a chance to do it again by forcing a violent confrontation every time someone yells at him or cuts him off in traffic. Stand your ground laws ended up playing no part of the Zimmerman case outside of the media circus surrounding it, plus a few groups trying to piggyback on the tragedy to push their agenda in state legislature. It wouldn't have protected him if he'd initiated the fight (as the prosecutors argued), and his version of events implied he had no opportunity to flee due to being restrained and beaten, so normal self defense law already covered him. Shocker that he'd be involved in a road rage incident given his impeccable history of questionable shootings, domestic violence, and scamming. Warbadger fucked around with this message at 20:25 on May 11, 2015 |
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May 11, 2015 20:15
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The guy who shot big Z (maybe not the most reliable witness) said he did it because the Z-man was waving a gun at him in a threatening manner
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May 11, 2015 23:20
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Good Citizen posted:The guy who shot big Z (maybe not the most reliable witness) said he did it because the Z-man was waving a gun at him in a threatening manner if he had killed zimmerman, his reliability as a witness would be much higher
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May 11, 2015 23:27
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WhiskeyJuvenile posted:if he had killed zimmerman, his reliability as a witness would be much higher I'm going to reserve judgement on that one until I see a picture of the man
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May 11, 2015 23:30
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Hey this is probably a good point in time to talk about the justice system and how it takes a massive toll on the people subjected to it. Seems kind of messed up doesn't it? Where merely being accused of a crime innocent or not, is more often then not financially ruinous for the accused party especially if the accusation comes from the state? What should be done about that, or is that by design as a type of karmic retribution?
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May 12, 2015 00:45
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Meanwhile, in metro Phoenix a couple of cops have beaten the rap for shooting a dangerous, unarmed (well, BB gun supposedly) weed dealer. Not only did they beat the rap, but the Tempe PD won't even release their names. Seems they are still engaged in undercover narc jobs. We wouldn't want them to face the consequences of their actions, now would we? http://blogs.phoenixnewtimes.com/valleyfever/2015/05/tempe_police_explain_decision_to_hide_names_of_officers_in_fatal_2013_shoot.php quote:The Tempe Police Department is sticking by its decision to keep secret the names of two undercover officers involved in the fatal 2013 shooting of a medical-marijuana dealer.
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May 12, 2015 02:01
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http://www.alternet.org/civil-liberties/baltimore-thousands-suspects-arrive-too-injured-go-jail-records-showquote:Baltimore: Thousands of Suspects Arrive Too Injured to Go to Jail, Records Show
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May 12, 2015 08:00
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Some of them had bones? My goodness.
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May 12, 2015 16:08
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zzyzx posted:Some of them had bones? My goodness. only some
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May 12, 2015 16:34
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Beaters posted:Meanwhile, in metro Phoenix a couple of cops have beaten the rap for shooting a dangerous, unarmed (well, BB gun supposedly) weed dealer. Not only did they beat the rap, but the Tempe PD won't even release their names. Seems they are still engaged in undercover narc jobs. We wouldn't want them to face the consequences of their actions, now would we? Pellet Gun != BB Gun, though some toys refer to the little plastic/rubber balls as "pellets", and many BB guns can also fire pellets, the rifle-type air rifles (which is what it sounds like if it had a scope) which are traditionally what the name "pellet gun" refers to are used for varmint hunting. They come in .17 or .22 cal and many have supersonic muzzle velocities, and more importantly are nearly indistinguishable from a small .22 rifle at a distance. Hell even the toys and BB guns are often indistinguishable from a distance. http://www.dickssportinggoods.com/family/index.jsp?categoryId=4414558
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Jarmak posted:Pellet Gun != BB Gun, though some toys refer to the little plastic/rubber balls as "pellets", and many BB guns can also fire pellets, the rifle-type air rifles (which is what it sounds like if it had a scope) which are traditionally what the name "pellet gun" refers to are used for varmint hunting. They come in .17 or .22 cal and many have supersonic muzzle velocities, and more importantly are nearly indistinguishable from a small .22 rifle at a distance. More importantly is that you can absolutely kill someone with a pellet gun at close range. It'll probably bounce off police body armor but shots to the head can certainly be fatal.
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May 12, 2015 16:45
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i wish the american police force was more like Brooklyn 99
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May 12, 2015 17:09
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quote:No other officers or witnesses saw Wheelihan point the rifle. He was coming right for us! With a... uh... is there anything good in here... oh nice a pellet gun! Yeah, he was coming right for us with that.
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Lemming posted:He was coming right for us! With a... uh... is there anything good in here... oh nice a pellet gun! Yeah, he was coming right for us with that. No witnesses does not mean the same thing as there being witnesses who didn't see it happen. Also from other sources it looks like it was a Whisper 22, which is in fact a .22 caliber air rifle used for hunting small game. http://www.gamousa.com/product.aspx?productID=289
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May 12, 2015 17:35
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hobbesmaster posted:More importantly is that you can absolutely kill someone with a pellet gun at close range. It'll probably bounce off police body armor but shots to the head can certainly be fatal. You can kill someone with a GI Joe action figure's miniature plastic rifle, at sufficiently close range.
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May 12, 2015 17:36
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You can use a rock to kill someone, and more disturbing still, you can kill someone with your bare hands. When is Obama going to declare a War on Violence so that police don't have to worry about doing their job anymore?
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May 12, 2015 18:09
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VideoGames posted:i wish the american police force was more like Brooklyn 99 Andre Braugher for police chief.
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:You can kill someone with a GI Joe action figure's miniature plastic rifle, at sufficiently close range. You can kill someone with a sidewalk
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May 12, 2015 18:18
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VitalSigns posted:You can kill someone with a sidewalk Powercrazy posted:You can use a rock to kill someone, and more disturbing still, you can kill someone with your bare hands. When is Obama going to declare a War on Violence so that police don't have to worry about doing their job anymore? Hieronymous Alloy posted:You can kill someone with a GI Joe action figure's miniature plastic rifle, at sufficiently close range. Very interesting to see NRA talking points getting unironically used in D&D
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ˆˆˆPretty sure those are anti-NRA. NRA is full of paranoid gunsuckers who are always so in fear of their life they feel deadly force is pretty much always justified. Normal people realise that, yes, anything can kill you at just about anytime, but that doesn't mean someone's always trying to kill you.Alligator Horse posted:Would people read an effort post either in here or in its own thread about "officer-involved deaths" or whatever euphemism is popular today for a police officer killing someone? I'd like that, there are just so many officer-involved deaths out there I'm amazed that every day there seems to be one I've never heard of before. Today I just learned about Amit Bornstein. There's literally video of the inbred, fatass cops all standing around while a bunch of them dogpile and beat the poo poo out of him, then at one point they forcefully inject a sedative into him, strip him naked, and tie him to a chair where his heart stops while covered in bruises and blood. Of course, the DA cleared them of all charges and the father of the victim lost his lawsuit. By the way, why is it considered common practice, in the United States of America, that a police officer who is not a doctor can be allowed to inject sedatives into someone? The guy had an enlarged heart so it was about the equivalent of injecting him with hemlock. pathetic little tramp fucked around with this message at 18:41 on May 12, 2015 |
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