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So, those of you who do play MMPORGs, does this seem like a reasonably effective strategy?
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Arsenic Lupin posted:So, those of you who do play MMPORGs, does this seem like a reasonably effective strategy? Not enough 'don't stand in bad things' for it to be effective
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May 13, 2015 02:13
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Arsenic Lupin posted:So, those of you who do play MMPORGs, does this seem like a reasonably effective strategy? Well, without knowing how the parties are constructed (tomorrow's upd8?), it's hard to say for sure, but it sounds fairly reasonable to me. HIC has the greatest ability to gently caress up their plans, so keep her off-balance. Give everyone assigned roles so that they don't flounder around during the battle. Give their greatest assets mobility. Have backups ready to go (the last kernelsprite). It seems competent enough that I could easily see a Leeroy Jenkins situation happening where something sets off the whole kerfluffle before everyone has time to set up the portals, stand in their designated spots, etc.
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May 13, 2015 02:17
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I think this panel http://mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=009427 hints pretty strongly that Karkat isn't going to be whole-hearted when going up against his universe's Jack. Yeah, he stabbed Karkat a lot, but what's a stab or two? The panel Karkat is remembering is when Jack comforted him.
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May 13, 2015 02:37
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Hope Karkat gets to fly.
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May 13, 2015 02:37
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Nephthys posted:Didn't Vriska discuss strategy with Terezi and Rose though? "Best" is questionable. Your talent to Buster Duel a boss in Mega Man 2 is admirable, but when REAL lives are on the line, you might wanna start throwing Metal Blades. I've done it, I am now the biggest nerd in the Homestuck thread it is me
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May 13, 2015 02:38
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Blackheart posted:Hope Karkat gets to fly. He has certainly fallen with style. Into lava.
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May 13, 2015 02:41
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I hope this follows Problem Sleuth's footsteps, where the final battle lasted for half the comic.
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May 13, 2015 02:55
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Left side, many Jacks. Handle it. More God-tiers
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May 13, 2015 02:58
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I going to guess that this won't end terribly well. But then again, John can do lots of things.
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May 13, 2015 03:04
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Classtoise posted:"Best" is questionable. You may be nerdier when it comes to games, but I am nerdier when it comes to Homestuck. You're forgetting that Vriska was a veteran FLARPer and she always played with real lives on the line. She didn't play no pansy vidiya games. Now Terezi is obviously smarter than Vriska and also Flarped, but she was all about mind-games not strategy. And tbh Roses plans were always of the Leeroy Jenkins variety. Vriska is pathologically competitive and a natural cheater. She's the best at figuring out how to play the system and stack the odds. She's also sociopathic enough to think about this all in game terms in the first place, lol. Nephthys fucked around with this message at 03:07 on May 13, 2015 |
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May 13, 2015 03:05
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Color Printer posted:Left side, many Jacks. Handle it. More God-tiers That's a minus fifty DKP!
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May 13, 2015 03:14
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Well, this is obviously going to go horribly wrong.
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May 13, 2015 03:23
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Maybe when the bad guys arrive John will just start spontaneous friendly communication attempts while Karkat paps and shooshes like he's never papped and shooshed before and then everyone will become friends and live happily ever after. Except Vriska because she's awful. ...and Gamzee stays in the fridge forever.
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May 13, 2015 03:26
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Arsenic Lupin posted:I think this panel http://mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=009427 hints pretty strongly that Karkat isn't going to be whole-hearted when going up against his universe's Jack. Yeah, he stabbed Karkat a lot, but what's a stab or two? The panel Karkat is remembering is when Jack comforted him. Robojack also isn't that much of a threat, if he's even a threat at all. So Karkat getting some greeting stabs and hugging it out with Jack shouldn't change much. Vriska has skill at making things dead. Her approach is perfectly fine in video game logic, but this isn't purely a video game penultimate encounter. HIC definitely has goals other than killing all the kids & trolls, but who wants to negotiate with empress sexy sea hilter?
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May 13, 2015 03:33
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jetz0r posted:but who wants to negotiate with empress sexy sea hilter? Well definitely not this poor guy...
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May 13, 2015 03:37
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N/m wrong thread
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May 13, 2015 03:41
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Gamzee is gonna get a happy ending.
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May 13, 2015 03:44
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Calling it: the Scourge Sisters are in full effect. Vriska isn't going to pick the people who will best execute her plan, but the ones who will best rebel and execute the double-secret mind plan.
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May 13, 2015 03:51
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Glazius posted:Calling it: the Scourge Sisters are in full effect. Vriska isn't going to pick the people who will best execute her plan, but the ones who will best rebel and execute the double-secret mind plan. God I hope so. Seems kind of a waste of time to have a plotline like "JOHN MAKE ME A GOOD SEER OF MIND" and then she loving sucks at her job anyway.
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May 13, 2015 03:58
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I think you will find that Terezi owns, even in death.
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May 13, 2015 04:00
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Blackheart posted:I think you will find that Terezi owns, even in death. Normally I'd agree but Vriska has basically infected her with her own terribleness.
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May 13, 2015 04:14
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Blackheart posted:I think you will find that Terezi owns, even in death. Yes but said ownage came at the price of oblivion.
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May 13, 2015 04:19
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Gamzee has been quite literally fridged and I am ok with him staying as such until the heat-death of this comic.
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May 13, 2015 04:20
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Honestly if anyone Leeroys, it'll be John, who is also the MVP of the entire round. Vriska only once MAYBE fought Jack to a stand still in an off shoot universe that was hypothetical to begin with. John straight up fought him head to head and was getting the best of him. It's just that, the moment John learns that HIC is Betty loving Crocker, that's where he's going to be going. His ultimate arch nemesis, facing Egbertian Justice at last.
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May 13, 2015 04:21
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Yeah I hope things don't eventually actually end with some kind of team up with the Condesce - she may have fish puns and glitter on her side and may not seem quite as bad in comparison to Lord English, but let's not forget the terrible things she's done. Creating Fruit Gushers is straight up unforgivable. And also there was some culling and slavery and genocide in there too I think but let's not get distracted by the little things.
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May 13, 2015 04:31
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Classtoise posted:Well Vriska steals Light, so it's very possible Rose simply has no loving idea (Because Vriska is the type to keep her allies from finding out she's totally loving wrong because she "knows" she's not), and Terezi might have seen something terrible happens to Vriska and she doesn't want her last memories of her Scourge Sister being "gently caress YOU TH4T PL4N 1S FUCK1NG STUPID 4ND 1T'LL K1LL US 4LL!" Huh. It just dawned on me that that's what Vriska has been doing all along throughout Homestuck. She steals the spotlight 
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May 13, 2015 04:38
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Glazius posted:Calling it: the Scourge Sisters are in full effect. Vriska isn't going to pick the people who will best execute her plan, but the ones who will best rebel and execute the double-secret mind plan. I like this. Is it too late to change my wishful thinking?
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May 13, 2015 04:40
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So I guess this means Dirk isn't evil?quote:VRISKA: When it comes to killing her, I don't have much to advise. PROTIP: To defeat the Batterdemon, shoot at her until she dies.
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May 13, 2015 04:52
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Arsenic Lupin posted:I think this panel http://mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=009427 hints pretty strongly that Karkat isn't going to be whole-hearted when going up against his universe's Jack. Yeah, he stabbed Karkat a lot, but what's a stab or two? The panel Karkat is remembering is when Jack comforted him. Spades Slick, to the extant that we have any idea what he even wants to do, seems the least motivated to fight any of the kids and trolls. We know he wants to kill Lord English, but he doesn't even know who the non-trolls are. Karkat he knows. Maybe Karkat will even get him on their side?
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May 13, 2015 04:57
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I'm wondering if the mayor will in absolute defiance of vriska's plans, turn out to be the real key to victory. But in different and ancient news, the whole modifer!name thing doesn't originate from anything to do with fanfiction, it's from the very early internet, back when everyone on it basically knew everyone else because it was just a bunch of computers networked at different universities. They're part of the original emailing system and are basically the predecessor of the @ in emails. They're called "Bang Paths" and they were used to denote the system that the account was on, so you'd send an email over to Phys!steve, which would be steve's account over in physics, ect.
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May 13, 2015 04:58
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GunnerJ posted:Spades Slick, to the extant that we have any idea what he even wants to do, seems the least motivated to fight any of the kids and trolls. We know he wants to kill Lord English, but he doesn't even know who the non-trolls are. Karkat he knows. Maybe Karkat will even get him on their side? On the other hand, dude loves his stabs.
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May 13, 2015 05:01
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All I want is for Jade, Dave, Karkat, Kanaya, Terezi, and the Mayor to live. Is that so much to ask? answer: of course it is.
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May 13, 2015 05:06
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SynthOrange posted:On the other hand, dude loves his stabs. On the other, other hand, this never stopped him from allying with Karkat before.
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May 13, 2015 05:25
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NewMars posted:But in different and ancient news, the whole modifer!name thing doesn't originate from anything to do with fanfiction, it's from the very early internet, back when everyone on it basically knew everyone else because it was just a bunch of computers networked at different universities. They're part of the original emailing system and are basically the predecessor of the @ in emails. They're called "Bang Paths" and they were used to denote the system that the account was on, so you'd send an email over to Phys!steve, which would be steve's account over in physics, ect. Not fanfiction, no. But not e-mail either (since when would grimbark!Jade be receiving messages at "grimbark"?) Fanlore includes your bang-path folklore explanation, but also points to the X-Files fandom being the first major attested source, although its particular citation is not dated. Digging around on what used to be Déjà News seems to support the X-Files fandom theory. The bang syntax is referred to casually in an FAQ on alt.tv.x-files in-jokes in 1998 (under "Other a.t.x-f inside jokes and references", which curiously also refers to a similar use of the bang in the term "Sick!Chicklets", which seems to be otherwise unrelated). Looking deeper into a.t.x-f, with particular focus on the "action!Mulder" keyphrase mentioned both in the Fanlore and the FAQ, we find that references to "Action Mulder(tm)" became "Action!Mulder" sometime between 1996 and early 1997 (earliest reference: April 7, 1997), too late to really be related to bang-paths. The FAQ, in any case, only seems to nod towards bang-paths, rather than actually admitting them as the origin. A thread in late 1997 seems to be the strongest hint at its origin in X-Files fandom. In the thread, the a.t.x-f poster Autumn Tysko claims to have been an early proponent "who [just] thought it was funny [to use]". One other poster also points to Tysko having come up with the concept and using it in her reviews of episodes. Indeed, most others in the thread seem to think it was more closely related to the concept of branding action figures and dolls like "Prom Night Ken" and "Surfin' Barbie", which definitely seems to jive with the decline of "Action Mulder(tm)" as "Action!Mulder" grew. If we search just a little bit deeper, based on the reference to "Action!Scully" in the above thread, we find an interesting progression in Autumn Tysko's reviews. In Tysko's 1996 reviews we see a sort of organized reference and sort of hap-hazard evolution from "Action Scully" ("Apocrypha") to "Action-Scully" ("Avatar"). When the phrase pops up again in 1997, however, it's almost fully formed, as "Action! Scully" ("Leonard Betts", "Never Again"). The space here is the key, almost certainly suggesting that the syntax simply came about because someone might have accidentally forgot a space and just left it that way. EDIT: Indeed, the earliest attested use without the space comes a few months later, when Alanna Baker not only uses "Action!Scully" in its final form, but even uses it more generally and explicitly thanks Autumn for having given her the inspiration to do that. Within a few weeks, the "Action!" prefix is added to everything in this thread ("Action!Mulder", "Action!Scully", "Action!SWAT Scully"). TL;DR: It was probably X-Files and had nothing to do with e-mail. ComradeCosmobot fucked around with this message at 06:38 on May 13, 2015 |
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May 13, 2015 06:26
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Arsenic Lupin posted:All I want is for Jade, Dave, Karkat, Kanaya, Terezi, and the Mayor to live. Is that so much to ask? mayor will die, it will motivate the team.
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May 13, 2015 06:28
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I hope everyone but John, Dave, Karkat, Roxy, and the mayor die permanently. Terezi is fine too, but no more.
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May 13, 2015 06:56
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I will be genuinely surprised if Vriska survives this comic. I'd put money on it if I wasn't so poor.
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May 13, 2015 07:04
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WAR FOOT posted:I will be genuinely surprised if Vriska survives this comic.
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WAR FOOT posted:I will be genuinely surprised if Vriska survives this comic. Hussie loves vriska too much to kill her
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