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FIRST TIME posted:I have a chip modded XBOX and have had several softmodded XBOX. They're both pretty much the same functionally. It's braindead easy to TSOP flash a xbox. You solder 2 tiny points on a motherboard to bridge them, get a flash cd and load up a bios. Then your xbox is permanently modded and you don't have to worry about drive locking or passwords or anything. From a usability standpoint on day-to-day it's not much different using but in the event of hardware failure it's much easier to swap things out as you don't fumble with the shoddy security put in place by Microsoft. Another cool thing is you can find the SDK to XBox, install the modified dev bios and use the various tools within it. There's an app that lets you pull screenshots directly from the XBox into Windows as an example or you can use the XDK dashboard which you can use to install games to the HD. The latter isn't much use since dashboards are extremely functional now but it still looked really neat back in the day. 
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Ineffiable posted:Yes this pretty much. It's almost impossible to unload a collection (even something like 5 or more games) for the full market value of the collection. You'll be taking a 20% or more hit. I was expecting roughly 60% of the top-dollar piece-by-piece collector price by selling the whole lot. Maybe that's unrealistic - honestly I don't even know what the total top of the line price would be, it's kind of overwhelming. I don't have any ultra-rare 200+ dollar games, but based on ebay (sold for price, not asking) I think my most valuable games are final fantasy complete with the manual+monster guide or whatever it was called (although the box is in poo poo condition) - I've seen those go around 100+ complete or near complete in box. I figure my set of megaman 1-6 are worth a good amount - megaman 1's box is pretty beat up but it's a complete set with all manuals, and 4 5 and 6 are in pretty much perfect condition because I didn't really like them as a kid. I like to think (probably incorrectly) that my tmnt 2 copy is worth something, if only for the novelty of having the unused expired in 1992 personal pan pizza coupon from pizza hut in the manual. My main problem I've found in trying to feel out prices is not a lot of people see value in the "complete" part - most people just want the cartridges.
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May 13, 2015 17:02
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Murphy Brownback posted:I was expecting roughly 60% of the top-dollar piece-by-piece collector price by selling the whole lot. Maybe that's unrealistic - honestly I don't even know what the total top of the line price would be, it's kind of overwhelming. I don't have any ultra-rare 200+ dollar games, but based on ebay (sold for price, not asking) I think my most valuable games are final fantasy complete with the manual+monster guide or whatever it was called (although the box is in poo poo condition) - I've seen those go around 100+ complete or near complete in box. I figure my set of megaman 1-6 are worth a good amount - megaman 1's box is pretty beat up but it's a complete set with all manuals, and 4 5 and 6 are in pretty much perfect condition because I didn't really like them as a kid. I like to think (probably incorrectly) that my tmnt 2 copy is worth something, if only for the novelty of having the unused expired in 1992 personal pan pizza coupon from pizza hut in the manual. Collectors will want complete - I'm one of those people. I much prefer complete to loose cartridges. If I have a loose one I'll do what I can to get a box and manual for display purposes because I'm a hoarder of games according to my wife. Lots of collectors are also like this, they want CIB now more-so than loose. I'd say make an excel file of what you have, alphabetize it, price it according to a few different sources (complete, loose, etc.) what it's selling for then take 10-20% out for a sale price and either make bulk by genre groups to sell or literally piece out the one's that you know are worth good coin and bulk the others. I'm really bored so if you have a list of them all in excel or something already I can help. Work is dog slow today.
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May 13, 2015 17:07
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flyboi posted:It's braindead easy to TSOP flash a xbox. You solder 2 tiny points on a motherboard to bridge them, get a flash cd and load up a bios. Then your xbox is permanently modded and you don't have to worry about drive locking or passwords or anything. From a usability standpoint on day-to-day it's not much different using but in the event of hardware failure it's much easier to swap things out as you don't fumble with the shoddy security put in place by Microsoft. True but not having to solder a single thing is a plus too. The only time I've had an xbox totally die it wasn't too bad getting the data off, was a little annoying sure but not too bad at all since I had the key backed up. Nowadays I just keep an entire backup of the drive at all times (because how often does data on the thing change anyway except for a few mp3s or videos) so just in case something wonky does happen, I'm a copy/paste away from being back up and running essentially. Also unless I'm forgetting something major, some drives don't even need to be locked to work fine. I don't think the 500gb WD I have is currently locked and everything works perfectly. Different strokes for different folks though, no real wrong answer here.
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May 13, 2015 17:22
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Hey, did you hear they're going to do a new Nintendo World Championships this year? http://www.polygon.com/2015/5/13/8598679/nintendo-world-championships-return-at-e3 Did you hear about when I tried to start a campaign for it last year and messaged Nintendo about it repeatedly? http://readretro.com/features/why-nintendo-should-bring-back-nintendo-world-championships/ Ahahaha.
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May 13, 2015 17:43
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Kodilynn posted:Collectors will want complete - I'm one of those people. I much prefer complete to loose cartridges. If I have a loose one I'll do what I can to get a box and manual for display purposes because I'm a hoarder of games according to my wife. Lots of collectors are also like this, they want CIB now more-so than loose. Not an excel, but here's a list I made a long time ago from memory, so I may have missed some of the minor ones http://pastebin.com/96bpB18a All of them have a box+dust guard thing, I can't say for certain which have manuals and which don't (I'm about 5000 miles away from the actual collection right now so I can't check for a few weeks) but most of them do. Next time I go home I'll take a few hours and try and make a more complete catalogue with some pics. As far as I know all still work, except Spelunker, which sucks because that was one of my favorites. It might be fixable though - it just does that green screen thing whenever you turn it on. The wireless controllers I mentioned are called "Double Player Wireless Head-to-Head system". I don't think we ever even tried to use it for whatever reason - it's still all in the plastic bags and stuff that it came in in the box. It looks like someone is trying to sell them for 49 dollars on amazon, so I'd be surprised if they're worth half that, but they're still kind of neat. I've heard the vertical loader NES I have is still worth something though.
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May 13, 2015 17:44
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Murphy Brownback posted:Not an excel, but here's a list I made a long time ago from memory, so I may have missed some of the minor ones http://pastebin.com/96bpB18a I have almost nothing going on this afternoon so I'll do a quick run-through from the pastebin. The wireless controllers even complete go for about $30~40. We had a set in box in plastic at the local retro shop go for about $45 but they charge a little over retail sometimes so don't expect to get that. At least this gives me something to do.
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May 13, 2015 17:58
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The Kins posted:I was linked to this today. Apparently crappy licensed edutainment never died, it just fled to Taiwan. It was clear that not even the brightest minds from Japan or the West could come up with a name as sublime as Rockman X Math Tornado
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May 13, 2015 17:58
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Random Stranger posted:SNES Doom is a novelty, not something worth playing. SNES Doom was my first experience with the game. I rented it first, and loved it so much that I bought a new copy. I dunno, I guess it was the whole new-3D-immersion gameplay that won me over. I was a boy of 15 at the time, take that as you will. Later I would see it on my cousin's PC and was like  I didn't have a PC until 1999, and one of the first games I bought for it was the Doom95 package.Nowadays the best way to play Doom is, like someone else said, through a sourceport with mods. Brutal Doom is seriously the best thing ever, as shown in the video below. Links to everything are in the description. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjfbVFxsMVU
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May 13, 2015 18:03
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Caitlin posted:Hey, did you hear they're going to do a new Nintendo World Championships this year? I hope they make Gold WiiU disks or something for it  .Comedy option; Gold 2015 World Championship NES carts.
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May 13, 2015 18:26
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Caitlin posted:Hey, did you hear they're going to do a new Nintendo World Championships this year? Do you feel vindicated, robbed, or both?
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May 13, 2015 18:29
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xamphear posted:Do you feel vindicated, robbed, or both? Mostly vindicated. The Polygon (heh) article mentions that Nintendo will be inviting select players, so I am patiently awaiting my invitation. If I do not receive an invitation, THEN I might feel a little bit robbed.  Neddy Seagoon posted:I hope they make Gold WiiU disks or something for it I really hope they do too, honestly! In a gold metallic DVD case it could look pretty neat, even...
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May 13, 2015 18:34
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Caitlin posted:Mostly vindicated. The Polygon (heh) article mentions that Nintendo will be inviting select players, so I am patiently awaiting my invitation. If I do not receive an invitation, THEN I might feel a little bit robbed. As annoyed as I am with how they're implementing this (why not run it through their Best Buy demos so it'll be open to the entire country?), you definitely deserve an invite. I suspect that they're just going to select some popular streamers/youtubers, though.
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May 13, 2015 18:44
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Kodilynn posted:I have almost nothing going on this afternoon so I'll do a quick run-through from the pastebin. The wireless controllers even complete go for about $30~40. We had a set in box in plastic at the local retro shop go for about $45 but they charge a little over retail sometimes so don't expect to get that. At least this gives me something to do. Cool, thanks. Just so you know, when I described the box of final fantasy (and to a slightly lesser extent, megaman), I was being rather gentle. It is barely holding together and really requires gentle handling. It's still there though, which seems to be rare. e: just looking at ebay now, some of the prices they are asking for CIB megamans are pretty absurd compared to what I've seen them sold for - individually people are trying to get 200-300 each. I was expecting something like 300 for the set. Sometimes I just don't know if I'm undervaluing or unreasonably overvaluing what I have. yeah I eat ass fucked around with this message at 19:48 on May 13, 2015 |
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May 13, 2015 18:45
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Random Stranger posted:As annoyed as I am with how they're implementing this (why not run it through their Best Buy demos so it'll be open to the entire country?), you definitely deserve an invite. I suspect that they're just going to select some popular streamers/youtubers, though. ugh, why even best buy demo stations? have they fully aired them out after the super smash bros thing? the splatoon event is exactly how a timed demo should be run.
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May 13, 2015 18:53
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^^ you are the only person I have heard say something positive about how they scheduled the Splatoon demo.Random Stranger posted:As annoyed as I am with how they're implementing this (why not run it through their Best Buy demos so it'll be open to the entire country?), you definitely deserve an invite. I suspect that they're just going to select some popular streamers/youtubers, though. You must have missed that part of the article? Polygon posted:Qualifying rounds for the Nintendo World Championships will begin on May 30 at Best Buy locations in major cities around the country. So I'm also probably going to wait and see what's local to me too, but thank you for saying you think I deserve an invitation. It is heartening to hear someone say that they think so besides me just whining about how I wish I could go, ahaha! You're probably right about who they'll invite, though.
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May 13, 2015 18:53
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RZA Encryption posted:ugh, why even best buy demo stations? have they fully aired them out after the super smash bros thing? the splatoon event is exactly how a timed demo should be run. You need to run it at some kind of controlled environment to minimize the possibility of cheating and they're already running demo events at Best Buy. Caitlin posted:You must hvae missed that part of the article? I did miss that. I'm definitely going to do the qualifier though it's about a 90 minute drive to the nearest Best Buy for me. Just too good of an opportunity to pass up. And I meant it when I said you deserve it. Getting some record holders out there to compete would be better for competition than whoever has a million youtube subscribers. Random Stranger fucked around with this message at 18:58 on May 13, 2015 |
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May 13, 2015 18:54
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Kodilynn posted:You're going to take a hit on it regardless if you really want to sell it as a collection unless you're firm and stubborn about the pricing. The video game pricing charting site is a good point of reference with comparisons to eBay prices of listings that have sold, not what people are asking for to get an idea. It takes a lot of work to catalogue everything if you do piece it out and you'd ironically probably get more money this way even though it's a more intense process. Your best bet honestly is eBay with a firm price minimum that has to be met. You'll lose money on it in the end either way, but it may be less than what you think if you have that kind of time to do it. Can confirm doing this is the best way to get an idea of the best price. You'd probably also get more money selling small groups of one rare with several more popular/cheaper games just to get rid of them. One thing you can do, if you don't mind doing all the work involved, is make a spread sheet for each game and break it down into several categories of Complete (box and all), Stand Alone (no box, works), Untested/Damaged. Then add entries below for each type, with the first two cells giving you the mean and median. Did this for some consoles and discovered it's actually cheaper to buy them bundled with games and everything than stand alone. And for nearly the same price, you could have it with the box it came in! Didn't apply to all consoles though. Most were pretty normal in pricing.
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May 13, 2015 18:58
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Random Stranger posted:Seriously, Doom on the SNES is a horrible port. Even if the system wasn't extremely underpowered for the game, there are problems with the interface and the resolution reduces everything to a brown blur. The choppiness makes some of the secrets that require tight timing almost impossible to get. SNES Doom is a novelty, not something worth playing. Soundtrack's badass, at least.
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May 13, 2015 19:03
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What will even be in the new Nintendo championships? A Smash Bro Tourney, _______
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May 13, 2015 19:05
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Murphy Brownback posted:Cool, thanks. Just so you know, when I described the box of final fantasy (and to a slightly lesser extent, megaman), I was being rather gentle. It is barely holding together and really requires gentle handling. It's still there though, which seems to be rare. I need your e-mail. I'm about halfway through and I'd rather e-mail you the result instead of posting it given the work I'm putting into this. Or PM it to me. Either is fine.
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May 13, 2015 19:58
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2TolAEjEuDo
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May 13, 2015 20:03
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In the past couple of generations of consoles, "First-party Nintendo" games have been pretty much the only reason to buy the system. This made me wonder about how things stood back in the NES and SNES era; are the first-party games on those consoles the stand-out games of that generation? Were there any that sucked?
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May 13, 2015 20:10
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The first party Nintendo games have always been the reason to get any of their console. It's just that the NES was literally the only option for 3rd parties at the time, and they hadn't run everyone off with the N64's bad design and licensing yet.
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May 13, 2015 20:12
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flyboi posted:It's braindead easy to TSOP flash a xbox. You solder 2 tiny points on a motherboard to bridge them, get a flash cd and load up a bios. Then your xbox is permanently modded and you don't have to worry about drive locking or passwords or anything. From a usability standpoint on day-to-day it's not much different using but in the event of hardware failure it's much easier to swap things out as you don't fumble with the shoddy security put in place by Microsoft. do you even have to solder? it's been years since i did it but I can't remember having to do any soldering to do a hot swap mod
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May 13, 2015 20:18
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CountingWizard posted:In the past couple of generations of consoles, "First-party Nintendo" games have been pretty much the only reason to buy the system. This made me wonder about how things stood back in the NES and SNES era; are the first-party games on those consoles the stand-out games of that generation? Were there any that sucked? The NES and SNES have excellent libraries of third-party games as well as first party games. It wasn't until the N64 that Nintendo consoles were home for Nintendo games and not much else.
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May 13, 2015 20:26
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So I got a couple like NISB NES games today. Normally I only collect stuff I'm going to open and play but in this case I made an exception as I really like the game and cover of Princess Tomato (I already own a playable copy). The other game is Max Gravity which I know almost nothing about. I'm not really sure how to store games like this. As long as it's climate controlled and out of sunlight am I pretty safe? I assume the color of the cardboard and the plastic wrap are the main things that might break down.
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May 13, 2015 20:28
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CountingWizard posted:In the past couple of generations of consoles, "First-party Nintendo" games have been pretty much the only reason to buy the system. This made me wonder about how things stood back in the NES and SNES era; are the first-party games on those consoles the stand-out games of that generation? Were there any that sucked? There's plenty of Nintendo games from that era that were pretty bad. In the Famicom/NES era, Ice Climbers was pretty bad. Urban Champion was awful even at the time. Kid Icarus always gets attention, but it's a bad game. And Zelda 2 is probably the worst game Nintendo published in all of their major series. SNES era, Pilotwings is only playable as a tech demo. And Yoshi's Safari is notable for being not fun. But Nintendo designed games were usually among the best out there, anyway. The illegal licensing requirements they had through about 1991 also locked the best third party software into their systems as well, though. And because Nintendo spent 1986 through 1995 burning every single bridge in the video game industry the N64 is when the anti-Nintendo backlash on the industry side really hit. DisposableHero posted:So I got a couple like NISB NES games today. Normally I only collect stuff I'm going to open and play but in this case I made an exception as I really like the game and cover of Princess Tomato (I already own a playable copy). The other game is Max Gravity which I know almost nothing about. There's usually four things you have to worry about in long term preservation: light, water, temperature, and oxygen. Unless you are crazy you're not going to be able to do much about the oxygen slowly turning things cardboard to acid that will destroy everything. Temperature and water are more easily controlled for, just keeping it in your air conditioned house will handle those things optimally. Random Stranger fucked around with this message at 20:33 on May 13, 2015 |
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May 13, 2015 20:29
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Random Stranger posted:And Zelda 2 is probably the worst game Nintendo published in all of their major series. Oh please, Zelda 2 isn't even close to the worst Zelda game, let alone the worst game in Nintendo's regular lineup.
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May 13, 2015 20:31
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New shell from Krikzz arrived today. See you later Griffey...  Hello translucent red plastic! 
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May 13, 2015 20:32
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Stux posted:do you even have to solder? it's been years since i did it but I can't remember having to do any soldering to do a hot swap mod Yes but it's quite possibly the easiest solder points for any system mod ever. http://www.biline.ca/xbox_solder.htm
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May 13, 2015 20:35
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Cubey posted:Oh please, Zelda 2 isn't even close to the worst Zelda game, let alone the worst game in Nintendo's regular lineup. I don't care for Ocarina of Time, but I'd rather play the Master Quest version of it again than play Zelda 2.
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May 13, 2015 20:35
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zelda 2 is better than spirit tracks.
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May 13, 2015 20:40
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corn in the bible posted:zelda 2 is better than spirit tracks. I liked spirit tracks 
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May 13, 2015 20:51
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Random Stranger posted:And Zelda 2 is probably the worst game Nintendo published in all of their major series. Yoshi's Story would like to have a word with you.
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May 13, 2015 21:02
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Codiekitty posted:Yoshi's Story would like to have a word with you. but it's super happy!
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May 13, 2015 21:05
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Random Stranger posted:There's plenty of Nintendo games from that era that were pretty bad. In the Famicom/NES era, Ice Climbers was pretty bad. Ouch ouch and ouch! Those are 3 of my favorite games of all time, and not for purely nostalgia reasons (that I'm aware of). I can see how Ice Climbers and Kid Icarus could be considered crappy compared to arguably better games, but Pilotwings owns hard and always will.
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May 13, 2015 21:12
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Doom 64 is the only Doom title worth playing on a console. Because it's the real Doom 3 in my eyes.
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May 13, 2015 21:23
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corn in the bible posted:zelda 2 is better than spirit tracks. Man you are just full of terrible opinions! Random Stranger posted:I did miss that. I'm definitely going to do the qualifier though it's about a 90 minute drive to the nearest Best Buy for me. Just too good of an opportunity to pass up. I'm banking on there actually being a qualifier about 2 minutes from my work, since I'm right behind a rather large Best Buy, heh. So that's something. Looks like Empire Arcadia's "Triforce" Johnson is taking credit for the NWC already, so maybe if he "borrows" enough money from people he can afford to go to E3. If you don't know anything about stupid arcade/FGC drama best to leave that stone unturned and let this make no sense to you, though.
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Tyson Tomko posted:Ouch ouch and ouch! Those are 3 of my favorite games of all time, and not for purely nostalgia reasons (that I'm aware of). I can see how Ice Climbers and Kid Icarus could be considered crappy compared to arguably better games, but Pilotwings owns hard and always will. If you're going to say Pilotwings is bad because "it's basically a tech demo" then you might as well say F-Zero is bad too and both games are really good and cool.
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