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Cabbagepots
Apr 7, 2008
Probation
Can't post for 4 years!
Zelda timeline doesn't make an asslick of sense

Why did they even bother? Anyone can tell from basic observation that none of the games are connected in any way

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Kurtofan
Feb 16, 2011

hon hon hon

Updating the timeline.

Hardcordion
Feb 5, 2008

BARK BARK BARK
The Zelda games are like films in which Link, Zelda and Ganon are actors and outside of the game they are actually good friends.

Countblanc
Apr 20, 2005

Help a hero out!

Zaphod42 posted:

The problem is that Zelda was never meant to have a continuity; Link is like the Dread Pirate Roberts. Its a legend passed down but different dudes take up the name over time.

But then turbospergs couldn't handle that and demanded a canon so Nintendo gave them one.

Boy howdy did they give them one :stonk:

lol if you don't think there were already a bunch of nerds working at nintendo who had all that in their headcanon and were ready to puke it out onto paper.

Ernie Muppari
Aug 4, 2012

Keep this up G'Bert, and soon you won't have a pigeon to protect!
also it's really really hard to pass up infinite piles of :20bux:

NBHS
Mar 2, 2012

"I'm here for you. To make children smile, to make profits rise, I am the subservient of the network.


"... did we get all that on tape?"

Christo posted:

The Zelda games are like films in which Link, Zelda and Ganon are actors and outside of the game they are actually good friends.

Isn't that basically what happened in Super Mario Galaxy?

After you beat the game, everyone just kinda stands around and looks at each other like "Well, yeah, I guess we just did that again."

Hardcordion
Feb 5, 2008

BARK BARK BARK

NBHS posted:

Isn't that basically what happened in Super Mario Galaxy?

After you beat the game, everyone just kinda stands around and looks at each other like "Well, yeah, I guess we just did that again."

It's Miyamoto's explanation for how Bowser and Mario can be mortal enemies in one game and friendly kart-racing rivals in another, yeah. He thinks of them like the old Popeye cartoons in which Bluto and Popeye often played different rolls (pirates, carpenters, musicians...) depending on what the story required.

EDIT: Also Zelda and Mario exist in the same universe because Link can be found asleep in one of the inns in Super Mario RPG and there are Goombas in Link's Awakening.

Hardcordion fucked around with this message at 20:37 on May 13, 2015

Cabbagepots
Apr 7, 2008
Probation
Can't post for 4 years!
How does all this tie into my OlimarXSamus shipfics

Ernie Muppari
Aug 4, 2012

Keep this up G'Bert, and soon you won't have a pigeon to protect!

Cabbagepots posted:

How does all this tie into my OlimarXSamus shipfics

those remain f-canon, as long as no e-canon level material directly contradicts them you may assume they've happened within the context of the smash/kart continuities

:goonsay:

mabels big day
Feb 25, 2012

I'm just gonna fuckin say it. Super Mario RPG is NOT canon.

Cialis Railman
Apr 20, 2007

Stuff like smash bros and mario kart are like celebrity episodes of game shows, it's an easy few hours of work and maybe you earn a few bucks for a charity. Good publicity, gets your name out there, makes everyone feel good.

ThisIsACoolGuy
Nov 2, 2010

Shaped like a friend

Everything is a stage play anyway, Mario 3 already proved it. Why the hell do you think Bowser let's his son get in on this. Every time Mario loses it's like a actor forgetting his lines and having to do a reshoot.

Game overs are when the guy filming says gently caress it and walks out of the studio.

Kyte
Nov 19, 2013

Never quacked for this

Christo posted:

It's Miyamoto's explanation for how Bowser and Mario can be mortal enemies in one game and friendly kart-racing rivals in another, yeah. He thinks of them like the old Popeye cartoons in which Bluto and Popeye often played different rolls (pirates, carpenters, musicians...) depending on what the story required.

EDIT: Also Zelda and Mario exist in the same universe because Link can be found asleep in one of the inns in Super Mario RPG and there are Goombas in Link's Awakening.

They call it the Osamu Tezuka Star System.

Snooze Cruise
Feb 16, 2013

hey look,
a post
Jump Man and Mario secertly father and son. Not the same person.

Suaimhneas
Nov 19, 2005

That's how you get tinnitus

Ernie Muppari posted:

those remain f-canon, as long as no e-canon level material directly contradicts them you may assume they've happened within the context of the smash/kart continuities

:goonsay:

What the gently caress do these things you're saying mean

Cabbagepots
Apr 7, 2008
Probation
Can't post for 4 years!

Ernie Muppari posted:

those remain f-canon, as long as no e-canon level material directly contradicts them you may assume they've happened within the context of the smash/kart continuities

:goonsay:

I'm not shipping them within the context of the Smash continuity, I'm talking in the context of the original games, where Samus is over six feet tall and Olimar is 21 millimeters tall.

Ernie Muppari
Aug 4, 2012

Keep this up G'Bert, and soon you won't have a pigeon to protect!

Cabbagepots posted:

I'm not shipping them within the context of the Smash continuity, I'm talking in the context of the original games, where Samus is over six feet tall and Olimar is 21 millimeters tall.

i'm p sure that yoshio sakamoto discounted the possibility of a relationship between the two in a tweet a few years ago, i'd have to do some searching to find out for sure though, but if that was the case then no your fiction would not qualify as any level of canon according to nindendofilm ltd. or dark horse comics

:goonsay:

Ms. Unsmiley
Feb 13, 2012

mabels big day posted:

I'm just gonna fuckin say it. Super Mario RPG is NOT canon.

This.

Pants Donkey
Nov 13, 2011

Cabbagepots posted:

Zelda timeline doesn't make an asslick of sense

Why did they even bother? Anyone can tell from basic observation that none of the games are connected in any way
I'm sure Zelda canon talk has existed since Zelda 2, but I think Wind Waker references OoT which really got people going on about it.

a.lo
Sep 12, 2009

Splatoon post.

Lemming
Apr 21, 2008
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFuMiZjxhsc

Here's a ranked battle. It looks cool and fun.

Reiley
Dec 16, 2007


I really want to try that gun with the flame design that fires bursty paint blobs. I think that will be my favorite one.

Tengames
Oct 29, 2008


mabels big day posted:

I'm just gonna fuckin say it. Super Mario RPG is NOT canon.

Geno exists in Mario & Luigi, and if that's not canon then screw the canon.

Also game about squids. I want that green squid Amiibo but not the other two. Is it sold separate?

Lemming
Apr 21, 2008

Tengames posted:

Geno exists in Mario & Luigi, and if that's not canon then screw the canon.

Also game about squids. I want that green squid Amiibo but not the other two. Is it sold separate?

It's the only one that isn't.

Violen
Jul 25, 2009

ohoho~
Do we know what influences the length of the penalty incurred by the opponent gaining base control in ranked battles?

Sade
Aug 3, 2009

Can't touch this.
No really, you can't

Rorus Raz posted:

I'm sure Zelda canon talk has existed since Zelda 2, but I think Wind Waker references OoT which really got people going on about it.

Wind Waker references OoT in an incredibly clear and direct way. There are a bunch of characters from OoT that survive to WW in one form or another. Wait this isn't the zelda thread wtf

Black Mage Knight
Jan 25, 2012

stop biting my cape

Rorus Raz posted:

I'm sure Zelda canon talk has existed since Zelda 2, but I think Wind Waker references OoT which really got people going on about it.

Fun fact, A Link to the Past was named that because it happened before Zelda 1. That is right, Nintendo started the timeline stuff with the third game.

Oh right, Splatoon thread. I have to say, I really love how it seems like this game is the most unintentionally eSports thing. Like, so much of this game just works really well on a spectator level, including just the way turf wars plays, and I have to wonder if it was something they intended.

Ernie Muppari
Aug 4, 2012

Keep this up G'Bert, and soon you won't have a pigeon to protect!

Sade posted:

Wind Waker references OoT in an incredibly clear and direct way. There are a bunch of characters from OoT that survive to WW in one form or another. Wait this isn't the zelda thread wtf

no but according to the march 2002 gamezine interview with satoru iwata this thread does count as a-canon and any events depicted here are therefore treated as having happened by nintendo writers unless one of the original nes games or playing cards contradicts it

:goonsay:

Silentman0
Jul 11, 2005

I have a new neighbor. Heard he comes from far away
"Shut up about Zelda you dumb nerds."
/

ParTwo
Mar 5, 2013

I'm making it rain-Bo!

Black Mage Knight posted:

Oh right, Splatoon thread. I have to say, I really love how it seems like this game is the most unintentionally eSports thing. Like, so much of this game just works really well on a spectator level, including just the way turf wars plays, and I have to wonder if it was something they intended.

You know, I had that thought in the back of my mind too. That would be the coolest thing if we could actually get Splatoon played at a professional level, hell I'd watch just to see all the teams just swim around the map at breakneck paces.

SeANMcBAY
Jun 28, 2006

Look on the bright side.



GameXplain confirms that you can only use the Pro Controller for the second player in Battle Dojo.

Guess I'm getting an extended battery now.:v:

Spacebump
Dec 24, 2003

Dallas Mavericks: Generations

flarp22 posted:

You know, I had that thought in the back of my mind too. That would be the coolest thing if we could actually get Splatoon played at a professional level, hell I'd watch just to see all the teams just swim around the map at breakneck paces.

It'd be hilarious if it became a game with big tournaments and a team of preteen Japanese kids won the international tournament.

Silentman0
Jul 11, 2005

I have a new neighbor. Heard he comes from far away

flarp22 posted:

You know, I had that thought in the back of my mind too. That would be the coolest thing if we could actually get Splatoon played at a professional level, hell I'd watch just to see all the teams just swim around the map at breakneck paces.

I really hope the update that brings lobbies kickstarts some sort of weird pro scene, I'd totally watch tournaments of it.

Rocketlex
Oct 21, 2008

The Manliest Knight
in Caketown
I want to try Paint Roller + Bubble because at that point you're basically just playing Pac-Man.

Toys For Ass Bum
Feb 1, 2015

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pjPOSKnOftA

http://vocaroo.com/i/s19v9CJs872j

:supaburn:

Countblanc
Apr 20, 2005

Help a hero out!

Silentman0 posted:

I really hope the update that brings lobbies kickstarts some sort of weird pro scene, I'd totally watch tournaments of it.

Wait this game doesn't have lobbies? lmao

zolthorg
May 26, 2009

Countblanc posted:

Wait this game doesn't have lobbies? lmao

The game has lobbies/ "servers" with shuffling teams like CS or TF2, it won't launch with team on team mode iirc.

Reiley
Dec 16, 2007


Countblanc posted:

Wait this game doesn't have lobbies? lmao

They said in the Direct that lobbies would be a feature we get in August. Everyone has to play unranked mode to unlock ranked, it's sort of weird.

PaletteSwappedNinja
Jun 3, 2008

One Nation, Under God.
NOA's press people have been telling people that they expect the ranked mode to be unlocked within a couple days of launch, which makes me wonder why they're even bothering to "unlock" it to begin with.

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Countblanc
Apr 20, 2005

Help a hero out!

zolthorg posted:

The game has lobbies/ "servers" with shuffling teams like CS or TF2, it won't launch with team on team mode iirc.

I assume you can, like, group up with your friends before queueing, right?

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