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Fil5000 posted:I like that in Trek they got the right idea with tablets but they sort of missed the point by having Picard sat there with huge stacks of them on his desk. That's because back then the idea that we'd improve on storage capacity to the insane degree we have over the last 30 or so years just wasn't on anyone's minds. It'd be like someone from 30 years telling us today that we'll be able to fit over 1000 Exabytes onto our USB sticks-- we'd have a hard time believing them even with the precedent the last 30 years has set because it's such a gargantuan order of magnitude larger than what we have. Plus people who aren't specialists tend to over-estimate the ease with which we can develop some things and radically under-estimate the ease with which we can do others. Like how there was nonsense being put into pop culture about Moon Colonies in the 60s. After all we were sending manned flights so surely colonies must be a hop, skip, and a jump away right? Like yeah it's easy to joke how a 3rd grader's knowledge of astronomy disabuses such a notion but remember that most people don't even have that level of knowledge in some fields. mind the walrus has a new favorite as of 21:45 on May 13, 2015 |
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Helen O'Loy seems like the Robin Williams movie Bicentennial Man may have been based on it. Similar premise.
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BioEnchanted posted:Helen O'Loy seems like the Robin Williams movie Bicentennial Man may have been based on it. Similar premise. I'm like 95% sure you're not that dense and are just baiting me, but whatever it's not a hard fix: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bicentennial_Man
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mind the walrus posted:I'm like 95% sure you're not that dense and are just baiting me, but whatever it's not a hard fix: Its possible Asimov was inspired by Helen O'Loy, though. He would have been a teenager when it was published, seems plausible that he read Astounding Science-Fiction magazine.
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May 13, 2015 22:11
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Zaphod42 posted:Its possible Asimov was inspired by Helen O'Loy, though. Well duh, did that even really need to be said? I took that as a given once you know the dates.
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Taeke posted:I don't know if I'd say "based on" because I think it's more like convergent evolution. Different starting points (in this case real tech and sci-fi tech) getting to roughly the same point through different paths. That doesn't mean that current technology like tablets is based on Star Trek, but rather that the creators of Star Trek were imaginative enough to take things to a logical conclusion and the real world did the same, without the two being directly connected enough to say that one was based on the other. Steve Jobs said it was star trek that inspired him to make the media player. Something about when data was listening to a bunch if music at once.
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Darth Freddy posted:Steve Jobs said it was star trek that inspired him to make the media player. Something about when data was listening to a bunch if music at once. Lal
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mind the walrus posted:I'm like 95% sure you're not that dense and are just baiting me, but whatever it's not a hard fix: I forgot Bicentennial Man was already a short story. Haven't read much Asimov. Sorry.
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Zaphod42 posted:Its possible Asimov was inspired by Helen O'Loy, though. I seem to recall Asimov outright stating that it was an influence. The Bicentennial Man was written alongside That Thou Art Mindful Of Him as a sort of farewell to the positronic robot stories; Asimov decided to finish up with a story of robot-as-pathos and one of robot-as-menace. Bicentennial Man is of course the pathos story. And just to bring us full circle, Age of Ultron is basically That Thou Art Mindful Of Him with action scenes and superheroes.
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I just got the Helen O'Loy pun
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I've started watching agents of S.H.I.E.L.D and for a secret government agency, S.H.I.E.L.D gets hacked a lot.
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Gaunab posted:I've started watching agents of S.H.I.E.L.D and for a secret government agency, S.H.I.E.L.D gets hacked a lot. The rationally irritating part of Agents of Shield is that the first 14 episodes are basically X-Files "Monster of the Week" episodes and it takes a dozen episodes to start getting good. After the Winter Soldier episode they dramatically ramp up in quality and it becomes a legitimately great show. Bill Paxton and Kyle Mclaughlin steal every scene they're in.
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:The rationally irritating part of Agents of Shield is that the first 14 episodes are basically X-Files "Monster of the Week" episodes and it takes a dozen episodes to start getting good. After the Winter Soldier episode they dramatically ramp up in quality and it becomes a legitimately great show. Yeah, but it's understandable why it started that way. They needed to start it that season in order for the crossover episodes to coincide with the movie releases, but they were shackled by Winter Soldier the most, as the shakeup from the events of that movie were the intention for the show from the start. So we got half a season of filler until Winter Soldier allowed them to turn it into the show they actually wanted to do. The entire fiasco at the beginning was all one big scheduling conflict.
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grownass man does not like comic book movies goons react in shock and horror
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Just saw Mad Max: Fury Road. My new overall irritating movie moment is every moment in film that doesn't have a car chase/explosion/crazy wasteland raider/crazy wasteland raider exploding in a car chase.
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Esroc posted:Yeah, but it's understandable why it started that way. They needed to start it that season in order for the crossover episodes to coincide with the movie releases, but they were shackled by Winter Soldier the most, as the shakeup from the events of that movie were the intention for the show from the start. So we got half a season of filler until Winter Soldier allowed them to turn it into the show they actually wanted to do. Eh, even then I was aghast at how joyless, humorless, and uninteresting the first half of Season 1 of AoS was. I honestly haven't given it a shot since because characters like Skye and "not Emma Watson" irritated the ever-loving hell out of me (I can normally take Whedon-style geek bait characters, but for some reason those two made me understand why some people throw so much venom at Whedon-related productions), and knowing SHIELD of the comics gave me incredibly unrealistic expectations of the show (where's all the technology? why aren't we going to obscure corners of the Marvel canon?). I will check it out again eventually I suppose, but this is from a guy who won't even finish Daredevil--an objectively much better show--despite being a huge fan of the character/comics/MCU.
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Also another thing with Agents of S.H.E.I.L.D. is the toy looking tranquilizer guns. Like they're glowing and stuff for no other reason than to luck sci-fi.
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Gaunab posted:Also another thing with Agents of S.H.E.I.L.D. is the toy looking tranquilizer guns. Like they're glowing and stuff for no other reason than to luck sci-fi. They make Icers look different because late in season 1 and through most of season 2 they go back to real guns to murder fools.
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Agents of Shield introduced the main cast by having them invite a bunch of south american militares into their base, only to be shocked when this plan turned out poorly. Then one of the main characters was raped and nobody seemed to really mind.
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My problem with Agents of Shield is that the only way the writers seem to know to create tension is to have characters withhold important information from other characters for Flimsy Reasons. "We can't tell Coulson about what actually happened to him when he died". "Well, he found out what happened, but we can't tell him how we did it." "I can't tell anybody about the visions I'm seeing" "I can't tell anybody about my superpowers" And nothing actually HAPPENS while you're waiting for the dang shoe to finally drop.
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I watched The Captive the other day. Ryan Reynolds is a dad whose daughter is kidnapped (or is she) and Rosario Dawson is a cop who's trying to find her. It starts out really well, but then it just turns to poo poo: Rosario's partner is made out to be some kind of loose cannon, but he never gets results. Also, he goads Ryan Reynolds' character into assaulting him on the day of the girl's abduction "because he reminds him of someone". They never elaborate on this. The abductor and the girl are shown to have a complex relationship (ie he's a creepy sicko, but also she's really bright and can manipulate him somewhat). Also this is not really worked with. Also, she has apparently been made to use video chat to trick young girls into meeting the weirdos for abduction. This is only mentioned in two scenes, and then never again. Rosario Dawsons detective character is kidnapped at some point and locked in a van somewhere. There is no resolution to this subplot, the guy who knows where she's at is dead, and so presumably she dies cold and alone several days after the credits roll. Also, the conversation between sickos boss and sicko in the beginning kindof played to there being more to their relationship. E: Oh also they hosed around with the order of events, but there's nothing gained from it. It doesn't make anything extra suprising, it's just like "oh I guess they hosed with the timeline" Really just a movie that looks great but the story is pure crap. Carthag Tuek has a new favorite as of 01:59 on May 15, 2015 |
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IshmaelZarkov posted:Just saw Mad Max: Fury Road. So that's a positive review then? I must admit it sounds awesome.
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Lamprey Cannon posted:My problem with Agents of Shield is that the only way the writers seem to know to create tension is to have characters withhold important information from other characters for Flimsy Reasons. That last one lasted all of 1 episode though, so maybe they're learning.
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IUG posted:Wasn't the "AI" just a computerized Zola? So it's almost an AI, as it's just a computer's download of a human mind. It's been a while since I've seen the movie, so I don't really recall the point of the drive, or the problem they had to access what they needed from it. There is a line explaining the McGuffan that is the USB drive that can send a trace so it can be found the second it is plugged in.
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IshmaelZarkov posted:Just saw Mad Max: Fury Road. So you mean just when you went to the bathroom, then.
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Lotish posted:So you mean just when you went to the bathroom, then. He's talking about other films lacking this vital element.
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:The rationally irritating part of Agents of Shield is that the first 14 episodes are basically X-Files "Monster of the Week" episodes and it takes a dozen episodes to start getting good. After the Winter Soldier episode they dramatically ramp up in quality and it becomes a legitimately great show. Does it supposedly get good at some point during season one? Because I watched all of season one and it was not good.
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Tiggum posted:Does it supposedly get good at some point during season one? Because I watched all of season one and it was not good. People do keep saying that so I think it might be low standards coupled with a desperation for AoS to be the tie-in the Marvel movies that it theoretically could be.
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I'm irritated by any superhero movie/show where a character whines about having superpowers and just wants to go back to being normal. I refuse to believe there is a person alive that wouldn't be stoked to have badass superpowers. The only exception being heroes like Rogue whose powers' downside overshadows any benefit. I can understand that situation. But watching Skye in AoS bitch and moan about having superpowers fills me with rage. Especially since her entire reasoning is that she's "dangerous", except that the only reason she's dangerous is because she won't take the time to learn to control them despite being told by multiple people that if she'd just chill the gently caress out she'd learn to control them pretty easily.
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Yeah that character really triggers my irrational rage button and I don't know why. Like I rarely actively hate television characters even if I dislike them because they're not loving real, but that one hits my nerves raw.
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Esroc posted:I'm irritated by any superhero movie/show where a character whines about having superpowers and just wants to go back to being normal. I refuse to believe there is a person alive that wouldn't be stoked to have badass superpowers. The other side of this also really annoys me, where the other mutants act like Rogue is this huge traitor for wanting the mutant "cure". All very well for you guys who get to be indestructible or fly or whatever, but if your power means that you can never touch another human being, you'd be weird if you didn't want to get rid of it.
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IshmaelZarkov posted:Just saw Mad Max: Fury Road. A friend of mine literally just had a massive heart attack while watching it and is now in recovery in the hospital. I can't loving wait to see this film.
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Tiggum posted:The other side of this also really annoys me, where the other mutants act like Rogue is this huge traitor for wanting the mutant "cure". All very well for you guys who get to be indestructible or fly or whatever, but if your power means that you can never touch another human being, you'd be weird if you didn't want to get rid of it. Yes that is in-fact the basic "race traitor" gag they get to play to pretend the X-Men movies are substantial.
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Lottery of Babylon posted:Agents of Shield introduced the main cast by having them invite a bunch of south american militares into their base, only to be shocked when this plan turned out poorly. Then one of the main characters was raped and nobody seemed to really mind. Hang on, where did that happen? I mostly watched this while doing other things so wasn't giving it 100% attention but I don't remember THAT.
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Tiggum posted:Does it supposedly get good at some point during season one? Because I watched all of season one and it was not good. It gets better after the Cap 2 tie-in.
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Tiggum posted:Does it supposedly get good at some point during season one? Because I watched all of season one and it was not good. It picks up around the last third of season 1 and almost all of season two, with the exception of a few meh episodes in the middle of the season, is an enormous jump in quality over the first. The second season finale was one of the best season closers I've seen in the last year or so. Basically as soon as Kyle Maclachlan becomes a cast member and the Inhuman story line starts it gets really good.
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Esroc posted:I'm irritated by any superhero movie/show where a character whines about having superpowers and just wants to go back to being normal. I refuse to believe there is a person alive that wouldn't be stoked to have badass superpowers. This is why I'm so sick of reboots and origin stories. I am so loving sick of the whole "I have superpowers! Oh no!" shtick. Lets just loving get on with it. I wanna see somebody confident about their powers enough to wear bright spandex and go fight loving aliens and poo poo. Tiggum posted:The other side of this also really annoys me, where the other mutants act like Rogue is this huge traitor for wanting the mutant "cure". All very well for you guys who get to be indestructible or fly or whatever, but if your power means that you can never touch another human being, you'd be weird if you didn't want to get rid of it. Yep that's the other major superhero sin. The show Heroes was guilty of both of them 
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In season 2 they basically reboot a couple of characters. Like Skye stops being a hacker who just hangs around and instead is changed into a badass agent. They give her a couple of set piece action scenes that are really good.
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Zaphod42 posted:This is why I'm so sick of reboots and origin stories. I am so loving sick of the whole "I have superpowers! Oh no!" shtick. 
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Phanatic posted:A friend of mine literally just had a massive heart attack while watching it and is now in recovery in the hospital. Uh
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