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SIR FAT JONY IVES posted:What's wrong with Robert Half? I've used them, everyone at this company used them, and I have no complaints. They've made poor decisions with their clients, employees and henceforth they're favorite to badmouth but in all honesty you're going to find the same thing in any enterprise company. If you're looking for a gig is at least apply just be aware there are good projects to be assigned and others that simply aren't. Although, if there's any company that sucks its VMC Consulting.
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Dark Helmut posted:LI's biggest benefit in my opinion is that it makes it much easier to keep track of your references as they move from company to company. And the networking aspect of it is great too. Tons of good groups to join, whether they are technical forums or local job hunting groups etc. The references thing is pretty cool but I've rarely found any of the groups useful and mostly consist of awful marketing spam.
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May 15, 2015 15:56
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BaseballPCHiker posted:I'm I the only one who feels like LinkedIn is just unnecessary and just one more thing you have to keep up to date? Seriously, at least 90% of my recruiter hits come in through LinkedIn.
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BaseballPCHiker posted:I'm I the only one who feels like LinkedIn is just unnecessary and just one more thing you have to keep up to date? I hate LinkedIn and haven't logged into my account in probably a year, you're not alone.
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May 15, 2015 17:41
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Dark Helmut posted:If I have a rock star candidate,
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May 15, 2015 17:54
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Bhodi posted:I know you're a recruiter and all, but don't ever say this unironically Sorry, "rock star resource". 
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May 15, 2015 18:01
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Dark Helmut posted:Sorry, "rock star resource". 
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May 15, 2015 18:03
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CLAM DOWN posted:I hate LinkedIn and haven't logged into my account in probably a year, you're not alone. It helped me get a first and second interview at Oracle in Austin because I was able to directly message the head of talent acquisition. It can have it's uses. The spam is dumb but I get that from all the other job sites too so I pretty much expected it. I also don't bend over backwards to keep it up to date unless I'm looking for a new gig.
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May someone show or describe what good recruiter-catching LinkedIn looks like?
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Tab8715 posted:May someone show or describe what good recruiter-catching LinkedIn looks like? I sent you a PM
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May 15, 2015 18:12
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Tab8715 posted:May someone show or describe what good recruiter-catching LinkedIn looks like? Anything. I have a lovely, half completed LinkedIn Profile, and I still get at least 2-3 recuiters approaching me a month, including one from Google this week(sadly, my networking skills are not up to where they want them, so she will call back in a year  )Just have it, join a group or 2(I am in 2 different linux sysadmin groups) and make sure you have people endorsing your skills, and sit back and let it flow.
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May 15, 2015 18:13
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Tab8715 posted:May someone show or describe what good recruiter-catching LinkedIn looks like? http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3531540 start there
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mayodreams posted:I sent you a PM Thanks! RFC2324 posted:Anything. I have a lovely, half completed LinkedIn Profile, and I still get at least 2-3 recuiters approaching me a month, including one from Google this week(sadly, my networking skills are not up to where they want them, so she will call back in a year I'm getting the gist of it but I'm curious how location dependent is LinkedIn?
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I get about 25 job messages a month, all filtered into a linkedin folder. When you have a completed profile it's just a flood. I don't even read them, since I'm only 4 months into a new job and I'm not intending on going anywhere this year. The website may suck but linkedin is where it's at right now
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Tab8715 posted:May someone show or describe what good recruiter-catching LinkedIn looks like? Have a picture goddammit. One that's publicly viewable and shows you're not some nutjob neckbeard and actually borderline charismatic. Even if you have to fake it! It doesn't have to be ironic or funny or cool, and do NOT have anyone else in it. There's nothing that says sap more than a professional profile with your wife/gf/baby/cat in it. And like a resume, use searchable terms. If you want people to find you for VMware stuff, have the appropriate terms in there. Depending on how aggressive your search is, you can basically have LI mirror your full resume. The recommendations are great too, and ideally you can have people write them every so often, rather than make the mistake I've made and ONLY ask when I'm job hunting. vvvv I'll take "literate English speaker" vvvv Dark Helmut fucked around with this message at 18:24 on May 15, 2015 |
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May 15, 2015 18:19
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Dark Helmut posted:Have a picture goddammit.
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May 15, 2015 18:21
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Dark Helmut posted:Have a picture goddammit. One that's publicly viewable and shows you're not some nutjob neckbeard and actually borderline charismatic. Even if you have to fake it! It doesn't have to be ironic or funny or cool, and do NOT have anyone else in it. There's nothing that says sap more than a professional profile with your wife/gf/baby/cat in it. There's nothing I want more than to be judged as suitable for a job ad spammer on a social network by my loving profile picture.
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I like my job. I like this company, mostly. I like the people I work with, for, and who work for me. Got a random Linkedin recruiter e-mail yesterday looking for someone to do a job for ~2x what I currently make. I think that there's no way I can possibly apply for this, I won't be qualified. So I scroll down and basically read a description of what I do every day. Dammit.
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I meet all my candidates in person or on Skype, so the pic isn't for my benefit. It's for when your future employer inevitably internet stalks you to find out if you're a fit for them. And they come across the facebook pic of you in your ball gag or your 3 yr old public tweets bitching about your last boss. (yes these are real life examples) You can cry about being "judged" but whether it's good or bad, it's important to keep your social media profiles somewhat professional at least when you're actively searching. LinkedIn is just a great way to supplement your resume with additional character details about yourself, like a pic, hobbies, personality. Things that would be out of place or over the top on a resume. You're branding yourself. Dark Helmut fucked around with this message at 18:33 on May 15, 2015 |
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May 15, 2015 18:30
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Social Media really is a great screening tool for not hiring shitheads. In 5 minutes you can see all the stupidity that would normally take months to become fully evident.
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CLAM DOWN posted:There's nothing I want more than to be judged as suitable for a job ad spammer on a social network by my loving profile picture. It's more so they know you're serious. LinkedIn isn't facebook, it's basically an ongoing networking event. I've gotten bites from internal recruiters at places like Facebook and Splunk via LinkedIn. Yeah there's a lot of crap that comes through, but it's no worse than sifting through a bunch of poo poo on Indeed. It's like anything else in life: you get out of it what you put into it. So if you're confident that your real-world networking skills are good enough, then don't bother. But at the same time, given that it takes not very much time at all to set up a decent profile, all you're really doing is shutting yourself off to would-be opportunities.
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Dark Helmut posted:And they come across the facebook pic of you in your ball gag
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Bhodi posted:I get about 25 job messages a month, all filtered into a linkedin folder. When you have a completed profile it's just a flood. I don't even read them, since I'm only 4 months into a new job and I'm not intending on going anywhere this year. Pretty much this. I spent 15 minutes copy/pasting poo poo from my resume into LinkedIn, and that's about the extent of the effort. Now I just hang out and passively get contacted by several recruiters a week. If the job sounds awful (6 month helldesk contract, SIGN ME UP) or it's obvious they put literally no effort into assessing whether I'm a good fit (no sorry I do not want to be your Senior PHP Dev), I ignore it. If they seem decent, and the job is actually relevant to my interests, I'll politely decline and connect with them for whenever it is I DO start looking for work again. If it's something really amazing, we'll talk further. I don't enjoy using LI. But if you're even slightly interested in changing jobs, it just seems dumb to cut yourself off from every recruiter's favorite tool. Tab8715 posted:I'm getting the gist of it but I'm curious how location dependent is LinkedIn? No more so than any job seeking tool. What's location dependent is where the jobs are. Probably 80% of the messages I get are for companies in California. Most of the rest are local to me, with a few in random shitholes.
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psydude posted:It's more so they know you're serious. LinkedIn isn't facebook, it's basically an ongoing networking event. Fair enough, even though I disagree with you, I think it's just like facebook. I got my current excellent long-term job from real life networking skills and contacts and I plan to continue using those should I change jobs, but okay fair, I'm sure it can be a useful tool for some.
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psydude posted:It's more so they know you're serious. LinkedIn isn't facebook, it's basically an ongoing networking event. Its better, since you can mark poo poo as spam, while you have to wade through the spam on job posting sites
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May 15, 2015 18:54
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Update on my vendor/stalker: Yeah. He just had this delivered with a 2-card note. 
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May 15, 2015 19:55
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May 15, 2015 19:56
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It's only a matter of time until one of those shows up boiled in your kitchen.
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This was the note (on 2 cards, it's so long):quote:Hi Colonial Air Force,
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May 15, 2015 20:45
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Bhodi posted:Also be a white male in the picture, if possible
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Colonial Air Force posted:Update on my vendor/stalker:
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Vulture Culture posted:Ship him back a $40 bulk lot of 350 lead-contaminated stuffed animals from Alibaba Ship him back the stuffed animals after you host a TFR meet involving tannerite.
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Colonial Air Force posted:This was the note (on 2 cards, it's so long): Reply back that you appreciate the reminder that your wife just left you and took your kids. I'm pretty sure even the most determined salesman would be hard-pressed to figure out how to proceed.
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