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I don't like this holding pattern we're in. I'm ready for the barbs to get out. I'm bored of waiting on candidates to start attacking each other. Can we just move the time tables on everything up about 12 months? I'm ready for someone to draw blood.
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The vast array of idiots who all actually have a shot is just begging for a repeat of Republican Primary DnD.
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May 15, 2015 07:28
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2016 Presidential Primary: RIP BB King.
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May 15, 2015 08:03
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I really hope that was followed immediately by this: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BodXwAYeTfM
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May 15, 2015 10:47
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PerpetualSelf posted:Jeb Bush's actions right now are never going to be irrelevant in a general when his name is attached to the worst presidency in the history Yeah I'm gonna not agree about this one.
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May 15, 2015 13:29
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lamentable dustman posted:I miss Newt, he was the best part of the last election. It should be pointed out that Newt was full of poo poo on the topic, him and Herman Cain decided to throw their own Lincoln-Douglas style debate but didn't come any closer to the actual historical format than whatever hologram nonsense CNN puts on. DynamicSloth fucked around with this message at 13:42 on May 15, 2015 |
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May 15, 2015 13:36
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Mordiceius posted:I don't like this holding pattern we're in. I'm ready for the barbs to get out. I'm bored of waiting on candidates to start attacking each other. Can we just move the time tables on everything up about 12 months? I'm ready for someone to draw blood. The primary will start in earnest on both sides in the fall. So, you only have to wait about 3 months!
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May 15, 2015 15:11
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Agents are GO! posted:I really hope that was followed immediately by this: Literally standing on the table where people have their plates of food and wine glasses. Appetizing. Well I am disappointed John Bolton's not running.
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May 15, 2015 15:20
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comes along bort posted:Slow night at Coyote Ugly. lol
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May 15, 2015 15:22
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Gyges posted:Marco Rubio's Foreign Policy isn't very palatable since it's 100% on board with more war in the Middle East, preferably yesterday. Remember he and Cotton tag teamed McConnell in an idiotic attempt to tie recognition of Israel to any Iran deal. Also he's been just this side of a petulant child on easing the Cuba embargo. Also he's going to Republican it up in an election just as well as any candidate not named Cruz or Paul. He is among the best bets to actually win the election for the Republicans, but considering a field the phrase damning with faint praise is not nearly adequate to convey the situation.  Really now. I forgot about his Cuba embargo position. The older generation of Hispanics might love him for that poo poo, but the vast majority don't care. However, I don't know if his foreign policy positions are exactly going to hurt him with the voters he's targeting. Pretty much every loon voting in the GOP primaries (with the exception of the Paul cultists) are all about more war in the Middle East.
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May 15, 2015 15:48
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Alex DeLarge posted:Funny how that Obama guy seemed to figure out it was a bad idea. Getting elected 2 years after the AUMF passed probably helped with that decision not to vote for it.
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May 15, 2015 16:02
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Everybody in the poolquote:Former Gov. Rick Perry is expected to announce June 4 in Dallas he is running for president in 2016.
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quote:The Republican has long said he would announce in late May or early June whether he would launch what has become an all-but-guaranteed second bid for the White House. Well I guess narrowing it down to only two choices is a safer bet, given his track record.
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May 15, 2015 17:37
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Wow, he seems really salty about having to answer the Iraq question. http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/05/14/us-usa-election-bush-idUSKBN0NZ20820150514   "If we're all supposed to answer hypothetical questions..."
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May 15, 2015 17:41
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Why do people keep buying me Bernie related avatars? Can I just have my old dolemite av back? Its really childish.
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May 15, 2015 17:43
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Captain_Maclaine posted:Well I guess narrowing it down to only two choices is a safer bet, given his track record. Can you imagine what his third campaign would look like? Never mind, he'd forget to do it somehow.
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Under the vegetable posted:Why do people keep buying me Bernie related avatars? Can I just have my old dolemite av back? Its really childish. Trying to ascertain who anonymously bought you your avatar is the most childish of all. Namaste
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Zelder posted:Trying to ascertain who anonymously bought you your avatar is the most childish of all. Namaste Im not trying to figure out who did it. I just think its pretty childish. Someone paid ten dollars because they got so mad at an avatar I'm pretty sure an admin gave me. I don't even post that much about Bernie! He's cool and the best candidate but who doesn't think that?
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May 15, 2015 17:59
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Under the vegetable posted:He's cool and the best candidate but who doesn't think that? Adults
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May 15, 2015 18:00
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Under the vegetable posted:Im not trying to figure out who did it. I just think its pretty childish. Someone paid ten dollars because they got so mad at an avatar I'm pretty sure an admin gave me. Behold the power of free market solutions.
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May 15, 2015 18:04
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Spaceman Future! posted:Adults Adults who spend time discussing the army of living caricatures the republican party is putting out as if any of them have a legitimate shot to win the presidency in the real world. The democratic primary might as well be the general election itself.
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Under the vegetable posted:The democratic primary might as well be the general election itself. So you agree that Hillary Clinton is your new president, yes?
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May 15, 2015 18:09
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Nintendo Kid posted:So you agree that Hillary Clinton is your new president, yes? It's extremely likely, yes, but she's not the best candidate for the job.
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Under the vegetable posted:Adults who spend time discussing the army of living caricatures the republican party is putting out as if any of them have a legitimate shot to win the presidency in the real world. An unelectable candidate doesn't stand a snowballs chance no matter what kind of no lose scenarios you have manufactured in your brain. if causality somehow broke and Sanders got the nod you would get at least 2 years of GOP Executive, Senate and house and most likely many more of the Supremes. That is the worst possible scenario and anyone who pushes the candidate that would guarantee it happens is just..not thinking.
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Under the vegetable posted:It's extremely likely, yes, but she's not the best candidate for the job. What are your criteria for judging candidates.
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Under the vegetable posted:It's extremely likely, yes, but she's not the best candidate for the job. It's like all the fight has been taken out of you
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Fulchrum posted:Wait, what? Why would any candidate agree to not talk about something cause her opponent asked nicely for her not to? At best you could say that Jeb will demand the moderator not bring it up, but there's nothing he can do to stop Hillary from steering the conversation there. Because both candidates have things they don't want to discuss in a debate (or anywhere for that matter) and neither want to risk it. Plus moderators don't want to risk it because if they allow it then the loser's party might blacklist that moderator or their network when it comes to future interviews and the winner might do the same. The only winners in these cases are the people not on stage, which is why the people in the debates tend to agree to leave certain topics unsaid. StealthArcher posted:The vast array of idiots who all actually have a shot is just begging for a repeat of Republican Primary DnD. If Shadowcatboy doesn't do another On the Campaign Trail I'm going to be sad. http://onthecampaigntrail.org/ 
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Spaceman Future! posted:An unelectable candidate doesn't stand a snowballs chance no matter what kind of no lose scenarios you have manufactured in your brain. if causality somehow broke and Sanders got the nod you would get at least 2 years of GOP Executive, Senate and house and most likely many more of the Supremes. That is the worst possible scenario and anyone who pushes the candidate that would guarantee it happens is just..not thinking. Agreed if the primary becomes bitter and Sanders refuses to drop out, but if Sanders somehow surpassed a primary candidate punching above the 60%+ preference range currently, something like that isn't going to push the electorate as a whole towards the GOP, that would be a sea-change. It doesn't change the fact that Hillary was forced to wait 8 years, and it's "her turn" now so she will overwhelmingly win. Also the Republican field as whole, minus Walker & Jeb, is a poo poo show.
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Spaceman Future! posted:An unelectable candidate doesn't stand a snowballs chance no matter what kind of no lose scenarios you have manufactured in your brain. if causality somehow broke and Sanders got the nod you would get at least 2 years of GOP Executive, Senate and house and most likely many more of the Supremes. That is the worst possible scenario and anyone who pushes the candidate that would guarantee it happens is just..not thinking. Your arguments are literally just whining and fear mongering. Against any of the people in the running on the republican side, either Bernie or Hillary would be able to win. No matter what angle they take against Hillary or Bernie, they are, every one of them, in a worse position, ready to be exposed as the inconsistent dishonest jokes that they are. If Hillary wins, with the democratic party's full support, she is virtually guaranteed a victory, as none of her potential opponents are even the slightest bit legitimate. If Bernie wins, presumably he also receives the support of his newly adopted party, he is similarly virtually guaranteed success.
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Zelder posted:It's like all the fight has been taken out of you I never said she wasn't the most likely candidate. It's very likely she will get the nomination. She has never been the ideal candidate in terms of policy or transparency or consistency, however.
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Under the vegetable posted:Your arguments are literally just whining and fear mongering. Against any of the people in the running on the republican side, either Bernie or Hillary would be able to win. No matter what angle they take against Hillary or Bernie, they are, every one of them, in a worse position, ready to be exposed as the inconsistent dishonest jokes that they are. I shouldn't be shocked that there is a person that would think that someone like Sanders who could so easly be tagged as a communist would stand any chance whatsoever in the general. I mean I shouldnt be, but I still am, do none of you know how a billion dollar marketing campaign works? A top notch politician can get brought down by a wetsuit but you think Sanders gets through? The self enforced naievity is painful, but then again there were, and still are, people who think Ron Paul was destined for the presidency so youre in.. company. And what exactly am I whining about? Im not the one complaining about political realities and.. custom titles on internet forums. Introspect duder.
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Under the vegetable posted:Adults who spend time discussing the army of living caricatures the republican party is putting out as if any of them have a legitimate shot to win the presidency in the real world. That's absurd. Walker, Jeb, or even Rubio have a strong chance of winning the White House. And that's against Hillary. Against Sanders, it would not be a tough win. The electorate does not want a far left candidate. Most people don't agree with you. Bernie should run, to help shift the conversation to the left and open space for the left in the Democratic Party. He should not try to win a general election, because he can't.
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Concerned Citizen posted:That's absurd. Walker, Jeb, or even Rubio have a strong chance of winning the White House. And that's against Hillary. Against Sanders, it would not be a tough win. What actual policy positions does Bernie have that would be so offputting as to make him lose in the general? Most of the stuff he talks about is generic economic populist stuff that polls pretty well among the electorate, the only real liability is the "socialist" label he uses. Also what the gently caress does Bernie Sanders have to do with Ron Paul? Being an old white guy who's popular on the internet is the only thing they have in common, their ideology and the way they present themselves is radically different.
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MaxxBot posted:What actual policy positions does Bernie have that would be so offputting as to make him lose in the general? Most of the stuff he talks about is generic economic populist stuff that polls pretty well among the electorate, the only real liability is the "socialist" label he uses. Since when have general elections been about actual policies and not optics? People hate Obamacare with a passion, but like every single aspect of it individually. Like Ron Paul, Bernie has attracted the fanatical and often obnoxious loyalty of many first time voters / internet schmucks who have proceeded to annoy the hell out of everyone with their bizarre overconfidence, contemptuous / venomous attitude toward other candidates + their supporters, and general lack of understanding of how politics work in the US. There is of course a plethora of non-obnoxious, reasonable, and informed individuals who support Bernie, but they end up as collateral damage when the backlash hits against the former group, in this case being likened to Ron Paul fanatics. Edit: Grammar ElrondHubbard fucked around with this message at 19:55 on May 15, 2015 |
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ElrondHubbard posted:Like Ron Paul, Bernie has attracted the fanatical and often obnoxious loyalty of many first time voters / internet schmucks who have proceeded to annoy the hell out of everyone with their bizarre overconfidence, contemptuous / venomous attitude toward other candidates + their supporters, and general lack of understanding of how politics works in the US. There is of course a plethora of non-obnoxious, reasonable, and informed individuals who support Bernie, but they end up as collateral damage when the backlash hits against the former group, in this case being likened to Ron Paul fanatics.
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MaxxBot posted:What actual policy positions does Bernie have that would be so offputting as to make him lose in the general? It's like you've never seen a U.S. Presidential election before. We have such sights to show you.
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