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SurreptitiousMuffin posted:Do you have the game of thrones mod installed? That's apparently responsible for a whole lot of those C++ saving crash errors. Oh gently caress I do. Alright I'm gonna uninstall that. edit: ha, this whole time I was thinking it was Rajas of India cuz I just bought that
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SurreptitiousMuffin posted:Do you have the game of thrones mod installed? That's apparently responsible for a whole lot of those C++ saving crash errors. How's that possible if he is playing vanilla? Does that installer .exe they provide do something more then just extract the files? 
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May 14, 2015 21:28
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Also, try to play in offline mode. That helped a lot with my crash issues. Total sidenote: everybody should do a Finland game. You're indestructible. I have 4k soldiers, Russia had 13k, they came at me and got annihilated by the winter. Reformed Church of Suomenusko, so this was even without the pagan attrition bonuses. It was kinda amazing watching their army just disappear on its own accord. Back To 99 posted:How's that possible if he is playing vanilla? Does that installer .exe they provide do something more then just extract the files? 
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May 14, 2015 21:28
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Deceitful Penguin posted:When did plots have prices added to them? Could it be that they did that "money makes up for low plot percentage" thing? Yeah. I don't mind giving my second and third sons some land but uh why do they have to take my capital holding? Your capital duchy and anything in it should be safe from getting parceled out, especially if you have tons of other titles for them to take.
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May 14, 2015 21:35
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Uninstalling GoT mod just fixed my save issue, what the gently caress is that. Anyway, prepare to die Ulster.
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May 14, 2015 21:54
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So my glorious Norse Yazidi Merchant Republic of Gotland was eventually crushed after 200+ years once Russia reformed Sumonesko and conquered the poo poo out of me. I want to play something a little more... traditional. I've done Karl and the Byz, I've attempted William the Conquerer several times to no avail, what are some good Christian Feudal starts? Not really a big fan of giant empires, more like medium sized kingdoms.
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May 14, 2015 22:52
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Deific Presence posted:So my glorious Norse Yazidi Merchant Republic of Gotland was eventually crushed after 200+ years once Russia reformed Sumonesko and conquered the poo poo out of me. Try out Spain or the classic Ireland if you need to ease into Feudal Catholics.
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I like it when crazy ahistorical stuff happens. In my current game Ireland but controls most of Norway. For a while they were part of the insanely huge Finnish empire which held basically all of Scandinavia and the entire north and north-east of the map. I've also had a game where the Umayads converted to Catholicism, formed Hispania and then holy warred the poo poo out of North-Africa.
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May 14, 2015 23:39
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Deific Presence posted:So my glorious Norse Yazidi Merchant Republic of Gotland was eventually crushed after 200+ years once Russia reformed Sumonesko and conquered the poo poo out of me. Salerno or Benevento are fun. Safe area, lotsa people to gently caress and gently caress up when you want to expand.
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May 15, 2015 00:47
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Heinrich Salian decided to convert to Orthodoxy. I have no idea how or why, but the dukes have followed the lead seemingly without complaint. After just a single generation, seemingly all of the HRE's nobles are Orthodox. Provinces are slowly flipping. The Investiture Conflict must have gone really strangely in this timeline. (and a generation early)
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May 15, 2015 01:07
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GSD posted:Heinrich Salian decided to convert to Orthodoxy. I have no idea how or why, but the dukes have followed the lead seemingly without complaint. After just a single generation, seemingly all of the HRE's nobles are Orthodox. Provinces are slowly flipping.
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May 15, 2015 01:25
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Strudel Man posted:Yeah, the religious differences modifier is small enough that flips like that can happen virtually without issue. It is really not as interesting as the time I saw the same thing happen, but it was to Monophysite Christrianity. I'm still a little curious on what caused 'ole Henry to make the switch though.
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May 15, 2015 01:41
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Charlemagne for some reason gained the "Sympathy for Muslims" trait and ended up dying fighting Christians trying to take Umayyad Spain in a game once.
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May 15, 2015 02:49
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cock hero flux posted:I don't think Kinslayer should really be a thing at all, or at least not something that applies literally every time you kill someone related to you. It just seems like Kinslayer shouldn't apply if you execute a relative that has kinslayer themselves. Surely that's justification enough.
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The Cheshire Cat posted:It just seems like Kinslayer shouldn't apply if you execute a relative that has kinslayer themselves. Surely that's justification enough. Yeah, as stated if anything it should give you a bonus. Kinavenger.
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Hitlers Gay Secret posted:Charlemagne for some reason gained the "Sympathy for Muslims" trait and ended up dying fighting Christians trying to take Umayyad Spain in a game once. And what happened then? Well...in Aachen they say That Charlemagne's heart grew three sizes that day!
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May 15, 2015 05:50
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After The End just updated, California is in now! Figured I'd try my hand at something a little simpler first:  
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May 15, 2015 14:24
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Is Mt. Rushmore one of the holy sites?
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Spakstik posted:Is Mt. Rushmore one of the holy sites? It is, for several religions! There's also a Sunni/Shia style schism between Americanism and Consumerism, as well as the occasional Atomicist revival. The thread is here. E: Christ, I just realized my guy started in Orlando, and his family name is Waltney. I'm amazed 'The Mouse' being his titular title didn't click sooner. Bloody Pom fucked around with this message at 15:00 on May 15, 2015 |
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May 15, 2015 14:37
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I finally downloaded it and booooo no tribal invasions. Two hordes though. Portuguese and "Old World." British and Brazilian. Solid horde invasion choices imo.
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May 15, 2015 15:20
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I want to come back to this game but I haven't really played properly in a while. Did they ever make Muslim Decadence interesting rather than "kill your entire family to avoid taking massive penalties to everything"
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IMO, it's much easier to handle. You no longer need to land your relatives to avoid decadence, raising them to be good Muslims is enough (though landing them helps).
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Hitlers Gay Secret posted:Charlemagne for some reason gained the "Sympathy for Muslims" trait and ended up dying fighting Christians trying to take Umayyad Spain in a game once. Thats nothing. I once happened to glance over at Francia in a charlemagne start game, and he'd converted somehow. No screenshots, but all of modern France and the Benelux were sunni for a couple of generations. It was surreal, but his sons stayed christian and fixed it in the end
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Nuclear War posted:Thats nothing. I once happened to glance over at Francia in a charlemagne start game, and he'd converted somehow. No screenshots, but all of modern France and the Benelux were sunni for a couple of generations. It was surreal, but his sons stayed christian and fixed it in the end Is not Charlemagne (Old Gods start) but 
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May 15, 2015 17:55
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Any plans to put After The End on the Workshop?
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May 15, 2015 22:55
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pwnyXpress posted:Any plans to put After The End on the Workshop? That would be really,really convenient. The way that large mods have been getting on CK2's workshop by breaking them into parts is pretty smart.
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May 15, 2015 23:13
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What's weird is that I've seen some huge mods on the EU4 workshop, like 300mb to download. You'd think that CK2 would have the same size limit.
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I'm pretty sure they've said they won't put it on there as long as there's the mb limit.
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Sunni Islam isn't doing very well.
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So, does the Shia EVER take anything? I keep seeing Rise of the Shia events but don't see any Shia provinces or kingdoms form.
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Ceciltron posted:So, does the Shia EVER take anything? I keep seeing Rise of the Shia events but don't see any Shia provinces or kingdoms form. It's been more or less impossible for them to gain any traction since they changed the way that event troops are spawned - under the old system they'd have a massive numbers advantage, but now they're more or less even. Which means that since they don't actually control any land and the event only spawns troops once, they never get any reinforcements of any kind, so even a nation that just lost a huge chunk of their army in a big war can still fight off a Rise of the Shia invasion through attrition. Basically the only way they can get anywhere is if the event happens to fire during a big vassal revolt (because we all know how often those happen to Muslims) or something and they manage to take some territory by just kind of slipping through the cracks. Even then, they'll be so small and totally lacking in allies that it's pretty easy for a Sunni blob to just retake the territory whenever the hell they feel like it. The Cheshire Cat fucked around with this message at 03:32 on May 16, 2015 |
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At least the Lombards kept track of who ran their duchies. Also, it's going to be fun playing as the King of Italy in my mod. You're a Catholic running a kingdom of Arians. Only one duke is a Catholic with you. I'm expecting shenanigans.
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The Cheshire Cat posted:It's been more or less impossible for them to gain any traction since they changed the way that event troops are spawned - under the old system they'd have a massive numbers advantage, but now they're more or less even. Which means that since they don't actually control any land and the event only spawns troops once, they never get any reinforcements of any kind, so even a nation that just lost a huge chunk of their army in a big war can still fight off a Rise of the Shia invasion through attrition. It's worse. The Shia will always spawn with fewer troops than the people they're fighting. If the kingdom they rebel in has only 500 troops, the Shia will spawn with 470 troops. It pretty much guarantees the Shia will never rise.
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I actually had the Shia take all of Syria and half of Mesopotamia some in my Pictland game. They held it for at least 50 years thanks to the Abbasids going through successive decadence revolts, but eventually got swallowed back up. This is the most successful I've seen the Shia in the pre-1066 start dates for months.
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Its been said ad nauseum but there really does need to be a better check on the power of large blobs before you ever see a Shia revolt succeed. Muslims have the reputation of being too sturdy, although that comes in part since they start out pretty sizable already, but it was similarly galling when I was playing Persia just how resilient the Byzantines were despite repeated disasters. I'd expect after losing their capital, their armies, and three rulers to war, they might suffer a bit of instability, but never once did they have a revolt that had any sort of noticeable impact. It takes such a convoluted series of events to happen for anything to threaten to tear apart a big state, but the process for ensuring near-eternal stability is as easy as watching the AI repeatedly increase crown authority.
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Tiler Kiwi posted:Its been said ad nauseum but there really does need to be a better check on the power of large blobs before you ever see a Shia revolt succeed. I have literally only ever seen the Umayyads shrink a single county in size twice in all the playthroughs I've ever done.
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I had a game where Egypt had a successful Monophysite revolt and the Shia had a caliphate in Libya. Then they both got taken over by the Abbasids after about 50 years, who had everything from Morocco to Basra.
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The most you get out of the Umayyads these days is just some crazy culture shenanigans (I had an Umayyad Hispania that went from Bedouin to Visigothic to Bedouin to loving Suebi to Andalusian to Castillan and then settled on Andalusian.) Honestly, why don't they just start out as emperors of Hispania?
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The last 4 or 5 games I've played, the Umayyad blew up into a billion pieces and was ripe for conquest. The Abassid isn't as bad, but it does break apart, and the Caliph will usually change families. The Muslim world isn't half as bad as the Byzantines at this point. Those fuckers never lose a thing.
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