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Slavvy
Dec 11, 2012

WarpedNaba posted:

Shouldn't you guys be working at work?

Dole bludger spotted.

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Big Bad Beetleborg
Apr 8, 2007

Things may come to those who wait...but only the things left by those who hustle.

Check out the scrub who doesn't have a negligent boss, poorly-defined work parameters and an ever-increasing desire for another job :smug:

Ghostlight
Sep 25, 2009

maybe for one second you can pause; try to step into another person's perspective, and understand that a watermelon is cursing me



I love my work, but if I didn't have the forums to gently caress around on during conference calls, remote app deployment, or the other 60% of my job that is waiting for timers to request my input I'd go Garth George.

WarpedNaba
Feb 8, 2012

Being social makes me swell!

Slavvy posted:

Dole bludger spotted.

Day off, nerd.

Slavvy
Dec 11, 2012

I work in a trade yet I still find the time to post on the forums throughout the day.

What's your excuse??

bobbilljim
May 29, 2013

this christmas feels like the very first christmas to me
:shittydog::shittydog::shittydog:

mirthdefect posted:

Check out the scrub who doesn't have a negligent boss, poorly-defined work parameters and an ever-increasing desire for another job :smug:

:hellyeah:

Big Bad Beetleborg
Apr 8, 2007

Things may come to those who wait...but only the things left by those who hustle.

Pararoid
Dec 6, 2005

Te Waipounamu pride
"Te Pepe Tamariki, Te Papa Aotearoa"

Pararoid fucked around with this message at 14:10 on May 16, 2015

puchu
Sep 20, 2004

hiya~

BARONS CYBER SKULL posted:

If the forums are troll free why do you live under a bridge?

have you seen the house prices in auckland recently

speaking of which there's gonna be a capital gains tax on houses soon

Butt Wizard
Nov 3, 2005

It was a pornography store. I was buying pornography.

puchu posted:

speaking of which there's gonna be a capital gains tax* on houses soon

*a change in the way the current capital gains tax is applied. This just strips out the airy fairy 'intent' element for the first two years of investor ownership, or essentially assigns it by default.

Would like to have a look at the proposed legislation changes because I'd be curious to see how it will work with trusts.

bobbilljim
May 29, 2013

this christmas feels like the very first christmas to me
:shittydog::shittydog::shittydog:
It's not a capital gains tax you guys. I'm against them. I dunno what it is called but we are basically going to try to tax capital gains - John "low tax" Key

Ghostlight
Sep 25, 2009

maybe for one second you can pause; try to step into another person's perspective, and understand that a watermelon is cursing me



Auckland house prices coincidentally rise by an exact amount equal to the tax that would be paid on them.

Butt Wizard
Nov 3, 2005

It was a pornography store. I was buying pornography.

Ghostlight posted:

Auckland house prices coincidentally rise by an exact amount equal to the tax that would be paid on them.

^ This is actually a legit reason why a CGT is a bad idea when there's a shortage of supply and credit is cheap.

Ghostlight
Sep 25, 2009

maybe for one second you can pause; try to step into another person's perspective, and understand that a watermelon is cursing me



It's okay, Central will just mandate that the Auckland Council open up more land for development while continuing to deny them any funding for infrastructure. Problem solved.

Butt Wizard
Nov 3, 2005

It was a pornography store. I was buying pornography.

Ghostlight posted:

It's okay, Central will just mandate that the Auckland Council open up more land for development while continuing to deny them any funding for infrastructure. Problem solved.

"I'll take 'Entirely Predictable Outcomes' for $500, Alex."

Lancelot
May 23, 2006

Fun Shoe
Speaking as a tax lawyer, honestly the 2 year thing doesn't change much. The IRD would definitely assume that a sale of a investment property within 2 years is taxable under the current rules (bought with the intent to resell). This is probably just to make it really obvious so (a) property speculators will include it in their returns so the IRD doesn't waste money investigating them, and (b) IRD doesn't have to go to court against idiotic taxpayers who want to disputes everything.

exmarx
Feb 18, 2012


The experience over the years
of nothing getting better
only worse.

Ghostlight
Sep 25, 2009

maybe for one second you can pause; try to step into another person's perspective, and understand that a watermelon is cursing me



It's not a new tax! It's a modification to an existing tax! - John "Bloke I'd Trust With a Beer" Key

exmarx
Feb 18, 2012


The experience over the years
of nothing getting better
only worse.
a cgt excluding the family home would be worthless, and also we already have a cgt, and also a cgt would just punish kiwi mums and dads.

this new thing isn't a capital gains tax at all, but a tax on capital gains :smugdog:

Butt Wizard
Nov 3, 2005

It was a pornography store. I was buying pornography.

Lancelot posted:

Speaking as a tax lawyer, honestly the 2 year thing doesn't change much. The IRD would definitely assume that a sale of a investment property within 2 years is taxable under the current rules (bought with the intent to resell). This is probably just to make it really obvious so (a) property speculators will include it in their returns so the IRD doesn't waste money investigating them, and (b) IRD doesn't have to go to court against idiotic taxpayers who want to disputes everything.

At best it's stopped the absolute piss-taking that the IRD will already be aware of in a lot of cases. If you wanted to be really favourable towards National you could also suggest it would make sales immediately after that two year period look pretty cynical too, given the intent rules are still in play from two years on. Still, more resources for the IRD to chase up property investors with a questionable track record of quickly reselling property is always a good thing.

SurreptitiousMuffin
Mar 21, 2010
I wonder what a "stalled economy" looks like.


Maybe it's a prime minister who hasn't managed to deliver a single surplus in his entire time in office.

Moongrave
Jun 19, 2004

Finally Living Rent Free

SurreptitiousMuffin posted:

I wonder what a "stalled economy" looks like.


Maybe it's a prime minister who hasn't managed to deliver a single surplus in his entire time in office.

But he has, if you doctor all the numbers and put your fingers in your ears and go la la la la la la la la la until the bad men go away!

Ghostlight
Sep 25, 2009

maybe for one second you can pause; try to step into another person's perspective, and understand that a watermelon is cursing me



Stop worrying, surplus will be delivered just in time for election tax cuts.

WarpedNaba
Feb 8, 2012

Being social makes me swell!

SurreptitiousMuffin posted:

I wonder what a "stalled economy" looks like.

Try Japan, been in Stagflation for about as long as I've been alive.

But there's no way NZ could end up like that, right? With a young generation becoming increasingly shut in due to the extortionate cost of independence, right?

SurreptitiousMuffin
Mar 21, 2010
I had a job overseas that would've trained me to do a job that the nation sorely needs, but thanks to John Key's policy changes meant to curb "DOLE BLUDGERS TAKING HOLIDAYS IN BALI" I was forced to return home and do another degree so I can continue sucking off the government teat for four more years, and eventually become the mid-level Wellington beltway bureaucrat this country deserves. The evil of dole bludgers/graduates trying to work in lower-paying fields and countries has again been curbed.

I met John Key once. Dude sweats like a paedophile in a playground. He is permanently moist. There is a miasma around him. Nick Smith too. All the Nats I've met have sweated and smiled too much. It's unnerving. I'm not going to suggest they're aliens dressed in human skin but the thought has occurred to me.

swampland
Oct 16, 2007

Dear Mr Cave, if you do not release the bats we will be forced to take legal action
They absolutely are but you need the special glasses to see it

Kathleen
Feb 26, 2013

Grimey Drawer
both key and abbott's cabinets make me wonder if reptilians really have infiltrated australasian politics.

WarpedNaba
Feb 8, 2012

Being social makes me swell!
Reptiles aren't nearly that cold-blooded.

Ghostlight
Sep 25, 2009

maybe for one second you can pause; try to step into another person's perspective, and understand that a watermelon is cursing me



SurreptitiousMuffin posted:

I met John Key once. Dude sweats like a paedophile in a playground. He is permanently moist.
Pertinent question - do you have long hair?

Somfin
Oct 25, 2010

In my🦚 experience🛠️ the big things🌑 don't teach you anything🤷‍♀️.

Nap Ghost

SurreptitiousMuffin posted:

I met John Key once. Dude sweats like a paedophile in a playground. He is permanently moist. There is a miasma around him. Nick Smith too. All the Nats I've met have sweated and smiled too much. It's unnerving. I'm not going to suggest they're aliens dressed in human skin but the thought has occurred to me.

Aw, gross, that means he's been touching young girls' hair with moist, clammy hands.

Are we talking 'leaves a visible residue behind' sweat? Or are we more in the 'there is no way you are as comfortable as you are pretending to be' ballpark?

puchu
Sep 20, 2004

hiya~

WarpedNaba posted:

Try Japan, been in Stagflation for about as long as I've been alive.

But there's no way NZ could end up like that, right? With a young generation becoming increasingly shut in due to the extortionate cost of independence, right?

Japan also has a bunch of socially inept nerd idiots who love anime and hate talking irl and no I'm not signing my post

SurreptitiousMuffin
Mar 21, 2010
I get to meet Winston tomorrow. Anything I should say to him?

Somfin posted:

Aw, gross, that means he's been touching young girls' hair with moist, clammy hands.

Are we talking 'leaves a visible residue behind' sweat? Or are we more in the 'there is no way you are as comfortable as you are pretending to be' ballpark?
John Key is damp in his soul. There is something about the way he sags that calls to mind a mould-riddled house on the brink of falling down. The air around him is slightly humid, and sticky-sweet. He licks his lips a little too often, and smiles a little too wide; if he were a monkey, I'd think he were about to attack. He is not a monkey, though. He is a man; a man in a perfectly-tailored suit that somehow becomes poorly-fitted from being draped around his strange lumpen body. He is drab, in a way that's almost infectious. He is less a man than a mound of sour boiled cabbage that has learned how to walk.

John Key's entire life is a fart in the elevator of god.

oohhboy
Jun 8, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

SurreptitiousMuffin posted:

I get to meet Winston tomorrow. Anything I should say to him?

Keep stirring?

Slavvy
Dec 11, 2012

SurreptitiousMuffin posted:

I get to meet Winston tomorrow. Anything I should say to him?

John Key is damp in his soul. There is something about the way he sags that calls to mind a mould-riddled house on the brink of falling down. The air around him is slightly humid, and sticky-sweet. He licks his lips a little too often, and smiles a little too wide; if he were a monkey, I'd think he were about to attack. He is not a monkey, though. He is a man; a man in a perfectly-tailored suit that somehow becomes poorly-fitted from being draped around his strange lumpen body. He is drab, in a way that's almost infectious. He is less a man than a mound of sour boiled cabbage that has learned how to walk.

John Key's entire life is a fart in the elevator of god.

Reminds me of those bizarre 'thirst is creepy' ads.

WarpedNaba
Feb 8, 2012

Being social makes me swell!

SurreptitiousMuffin posted:

I get to meet Winston tomorrow. Anything I should say to him?



SurreptitiousMuffin posted:

John Key is damp in his soul. There is something about the way he sags that calls to mind a mould-riddled house on the brink of falling down. The air around him is slightly humid, and sticky-sweet. He licks his lips a little too often, and smiles a little too wide; if he were a monkey, I'd think he were about to attack. He is not a monkey, though. He is a man; a man in a perfectly-tailored suit that somehow becomes poorly-fitted from being draped around his strange lumpen body. He is drab, in a way that's almost infectious. He is less a man than a mound of sour boiled cabbage that has learned how to walk.

John Key's entire life is a fart in the elevator of god.

They sent a poet :stwoon:

bobbilljim
May 29, 2013

this christmas feels like the very first christmas to me
:shittydog::shittydog::shittydog:
nz politics: a fart in the elevator of god

Big Bad Beetleborg
Apr 8, 2007

Things may come to those who wait...but only the things left by those who hustle.

Can someone please watch Campbell Live and tell me what the Justine/Justice thing is about? I don't care enough to find batteries and plug in my freeview thinger.

dusty
Nov 30, 2004

mirthdefect posted:

Can someone please watch Campbell Live and tell me what the Justine/Justice thing is about? I don't care enough to find batteries and plug in my freeview thinger.

Born in 97: DIA issued her birth cert in the naughty name, but recorded internally as Justine. She is now 17 and has a newborn she struggled to register.

But it's now all resolved so she can now go through life literally named after the Ministry of Justice.

I'm not sure what is the most tragic aspect of this mess.

Ivor Biggun
Apr 30, 2003

A big "Fuck You!" from the Keyhole nebula

Lipstick Apathy

SurreptitiousMuffin posted:

I get to meet Winston tomorrow. Anything I should say to him?

Congratulate him on achieving immortality through the embalming power of whiskey.

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puchu
Sep 20, 2004

hiya~

dusty posted:

Born in 97: DIA issued her birth cert in the naughty name, but recorded internally as Justine. She is now 17 and has a newborn she struggled to register.

But it's now all resolved so she can now go through life literally named after the Ministry of Justice.

I'm not sure what is the most tragic aspect of this mess.

I'm gonna go with the ratings

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